Guest Mike D Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 hmm, I don't get it. I listened to both albums, the new one and Radio. Not much difference at all in style except that the new, irritant, is much more better quality in sound and production..make your minds up for once. You either complain about the fact an artist changes or tries new styles, or else you complain that their stuff just stays the same nothing developes! This is for sure only a minority, but it is getting quite pathetic, we are supposed to be fans and love the music, but 99% of reviews make the album/comp/ep sound shoicking, no wonder sales never go high, about 1 in every 50 releases get's and ok to good review, pathetic really pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujo Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Hmm, did you ever consider the fact . that even though they change style and try to make something new. the sounds could actually suck? personally i think the new x-dream album is a huge mistake. good production. bad tracks. track 1 & 3 , is ok i think. but not really killers. their sounds and the sound quality is killer. but the tracks just don't appeal. so maybe 1 out of 50 releases actually hsa what really appeals to people? no wonder only 1 out of 50 releases sells enough to break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Well I actually own 143 psytrance albums, compilations and singles, and 30 psy-chill.ambient.dub.downbeat. I cannot think of 1 song on those cd's I'd say sucks, I actual;ly enjoy every single song, and what's more, I know many people locally who think along the same lines, must must be peole like you cujo. And if you ever knew antyhing, most of the pop starts really aren't all that wealthy. They only make money, like sportstars, from endorsments. But then you have the thing that if a psytrance artist was to take endorsemnet "Sellout" "Cheat" "Only in it gfor the money". I mean, of course they are gonna be ini t for the money, that is what we work for no? And as for this statement: "did you ever consider the fact . that even though they change style and try to make something new. the sounds could actually suck?" yes I did consider this. But I am cannot aruge with this statement. Maybe if you used something a bit more eudcated for example: "Did you ever think that when they (X-Dream in this case) changed their style, the music did not appeal to everyone?" You think it sucked, I don't anbd alot of other people don't. Can we please stop forcing our views onto people about the music? Yeah, it is fine to have your opinion's, but at least try a bit harder to express them in a slightly adult and mature way instead of "It sucks" Its Sh!t" . Why not "ido not think they made a wise decision to head in this direction because......" Pathetic. To much hormones mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujo Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Hehe.. i agree that most pop tracks are only selling because of the promotion. anyway,, about my opinion on irritant. i did not say "IT SUCKS" i actually said i disliked the tracks. i found the production very good and the sound quality good. but the tracks did not get me.???????? i never said,,, "Ah it just sux, @!#$ them, it's @!#$" so don't put words in my mouth either. i actually came up with an explanation of why i disliked the tracks. but i guess you didn't understand what i said. i dislike the x-dream album, because the tracks are boring. they have a very hard sound, and it's produced very nicely. but the tracks have a lack of feeling and the composing of them is not very good. is that mature enough for you? i didn't come up with sentences saying bad things about you like "Too Much Hormones Mate" ... so who is the inmature one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujo Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 i never told people "ANSWER LIKE THIS WHEN PEOPLE WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE NEW X-DREAM!" i didn't put words in anybodys mouth! i don't know where you got that. people have their own opinion on the album... i came up with mine... obviously you didn't like my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 hehehe ok Cujo, I gues I overreacted to. Soory dude/dudette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujo Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Dude.! :-) Sorry, i think i overreacted as well, i had a rough morning! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cunny Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Cujo... it's our opinion......for me.....it's a good production with goods tracks ! See u Cunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cunny Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Cujo... it's our opinion......for me.....it's a good production with goods tracks ! See u Cunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AtomicCow Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 MIke...albums get bad reviews because the music sucks. There is so much bad, boring, uninspired music out there. Why should people hype the music that doesn't deserve it. Why should people buy junk? I only heard samples of the X-Dream album and I don't understand why people don't like it so much. I think it sounds rocking. Maybe not mind blowing and refreshing but it definitely moves butts. That Universal Chaos tracks sounds yummy, I am such a sucker for lush pads. I think there's a pretty big difference between Radio and Irritant. Radio didn't have as much distortion and wasn't as mechanical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eeee Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 The new XDREAM album is a complete pile of shite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheKaa Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 imo, xdream is a full on project but the irritant album is a kind a big production.It has fat sounds , fat basselines, but it's too linear, sounds almost like tekhouse for me crazy sounds ,but the track doesn't tell any story, and i don't understand why so many people are buyin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Um, I was saying that peole need to epxlain why it sucks, avutally express their opinion, not just say "It sucks because it is unispired" What crap is that? I do not like Jupiter 8000 because I find that the sound quality isn't up to the standard that I enjoy, and it does not make me wanna get up and dance, nor does it give me a pleasurable listening ecperience because I mainly listen to my music at home or in the car, BUT I have heard a number of tracks dj'd live, and they rocked in that setting. Doesn't that sound a bit nicer than It sucked because it is totally uninspiring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strumpling Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 IMO there is LOTS of crappy psytrance to filter through before one finds Posford n friends. -=- Matt/Strumpling -=- ;-P eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nomad Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 i haven't heard the new album, but i refuse to believe after 4 years X- Dream are going to release a pile of @!#$ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 This is the sort of thing I feed on. Hehehe. Whenever an album inspires extreme reactions (sucks/awesome), it has got to have something artistically crucial to bring to the table. It's an almost no-fail system for me. Examples: 1. The Delta - Scizoeffective 2. Green House Effect - Global Warming 3. Spirallianz - Blast Food The only exception so far has been XV-Kilist's album. That one had extreme reviews, but far more bad than good. I sure didn't like it. EA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chong Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 EA - u didnt like the XV Kilist album? Thats one of my favourite psy-trance releases...I believe we normally have similair tastes...suprising. And u did like the Green House Effect album? One of my least desired releases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slidingtrancer Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 I found the X-Dream album rather dissapointing, the tracks don't go anywhere but have SWEET soundquality.... But I wouldn't buy a cd JUST for soundquality It sounded like a trance album with the wrong repetitive edge of techno to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 Chong - Sorry about that. I LOVE XV's older stuff (Seitenzwack and Linse are still some of my favorite tracks). Meanwhile, I've found that some albums need to just sit on a shelf for a year or two before I can really understand them - I'll listen to it again, because I value your opinion. And I really liked Izik's album because it reminds me of when I was a toddler during the original Star Wars era (late seventies). Sounds like 'space disco' to me. It's a refreshing change amongst the muddy pool of similarity that I find the psytrance genre to be to an increasing level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujo Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 Ok, abuot xv-killist,, he released some real killer tracks. then everybody was talking about the album. the album came out, and everybody was disappointed. the stuff was IMO boring and very uninspired. the other killer tracks he released was with great new ideas and cool sounds. the album was just dry and not something that made me go "Uaaha" and dance. then he releases tracks like : "Schütters Schlüssel" & "Affenbrot".. which are great killer tracks.??? they have power. if you listen to them low and just in the background they are extremely boring but out at a club or at home they just kick ass. the album didn't even kick ass in a club IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chong Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 oooh Cujo I like yr music, I must say. (I hear Tenka maybe coming out to Australia soon...) the XV album, for me, is one of the best - very funky & has a big drive. Its one of the few "older" albums I listen to regularly. I was surprised by the amount of negative feedback it got. EA, I'd be interested to hear what yr thoughts are about the album after a re-listen. His newer tracks I also like, and am looking forward to another release from Killian soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chong Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 sorry that was too funky - i didnt realise the powers vested in me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujo Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 Well, thank you for liking my stuff. where did you hear that tenka was coming to australia? i didn't know that. Some guys in B-Bay wanted to bring Cujorius One to australia? that was something beeing talked abuot , it was never planned. but they are still thinking of it i heard. But maybe you heard about that, and someone said "I'ts ½ of tenka" , maybe that's what you heard? anyway, we have maybe 2-3 offers every month from people from Oz, Mexico, Brazil, USA, India. .. all over the world. who say they wanna bring us over to play at a party. but either they never mails us back anymore. or they don't ever send the flight tickets. So , whenever people say they want us to play at a party, we take pretty light on it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest russ Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 Hey Cujo, The Tenka track on the Traktor compilation is amazing. Very very deep psychedelic sounds. I really dig this style, but I don't hear many "deep" tracks anymore that surprise me. Too much clubby stuff out there imo. Please make some more tracks in that style! About the XV album, I found it extremely annoying. (i loved the track on the interzone compilation, though. that track is a beast.) The whole album was frighteningly precise computer music. Chong/MK, to be honest, I find very little funky about it. It's very geometrical and linear and tame and totally unsexy. To me, it lacks life. It just plods along. It's like trying to dance to the sounds of a typewriter. Some of the tracks sounded like an unmusical, lifeless version of Double Dragon. Now Double Dragon, on the other hand, that is PSYCHEDELIC FUNKY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chong Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 Well russ - your tastes normally conincide with mine as well. I guess XV is where our tastes stray. I do like Double Dragon as well, very funky; but I also find XVs work to be very groovy and spot-on, also a bit more "psychedelic" than DD. Listen to Philistine or Spaziergang or any of the other trax - - - - - it does my mind inside out - it's so clear that it makes my ears water. But russ I agree with you re: Broken Neck by Tenka - wicked track Cujo I believe if u havent recieved a call yet, u will in the next week or so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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