Guest High Roller Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I´ve heard rumors that Ka-sol will release a new album. Does anyone know when and witch label. I think its about time ther release an album cos theyve been around fore a while havent they,,, And the stuff ive heard rocks, not all of it but most of it is MAD;> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest triplex Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 if this is true then i cant wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [tom jaimz] Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Most of the tracks on the lastest Schalabberduerst album were produced by members of Ka Sol. Pick it up! It's blue! You can't miss it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Protex Midget Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 If it's anything like Tracey Snakecharmer, then i'l go fuckin' crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Well, I don't where that rumour came from, but it is not true (unfortunately)!! Maybe, in the far future, Schlabbaduerst will bring out an album of them, but if they would do that they want it to be better promoted then their schlabbaduerst compilations now, and that costs money you know... So if you buy the véry Ka-Solish Schlab 004 (on the Schlabbaduerst site) the change becomes a little bigger that Ka Sol will have an album!! ;-)) ps... if they don't release any new tracks you can always watch them together with the buddhas the 17th of october here in Belgium.... ;-)))) Bom Shankar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest High Roller Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 The rumour that i herard is that Jonas from Örebro will release a full length album with Ka-sol on stone age records (slipped my mind) this spring BUT. Now Jonas took off to india and i dont know if it will happen anymore. so therefore i just wanted to hear if some one knows whats happening. but i guess im the one with the info here. But then i know Jonas said that he wanted to release Ka-sol back in 97-98 or something and nothing happend .so i guess it wont happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 hmm... I don't know about Stone Age records, so I hope you are right!!! ;-)) Bom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 Nothing better than getting it straight from the source = me. Schlabbaduerst is planning to release a full-length album with Ka-SoL, but it is not even in the schedule since we´d need to get a 4-color cover and a good mastering and pressing which would cost a lot. Im imagining a Ka-SoL CD with a nice John Bauer cover. If you dont know who John Bauer is, make a search at Google and watch the trolls in the forest. His paintings look like the way Ka-SoL sounds. Since Schlabbaduerst is your most underground friendly local label we need either lots of cash from BotfB royalties or we need to win the lottery to make a Ka-SoL CD... And Im fucking depressed that we only sold 13 copies of Schlab 004 and its all out on Audiogalaxy by now! So no one orders and this might mean there wont be any Schlab 005...!! Whats the fucking point anyway? Support your local (hehe) underground label or you wont hear the music! Its that simple... I *ALWAYS* play AT LEAST 60% Ka-SoL in my DJ sets and if you ever heard anything you liked in my sets, or something that amazed you, it was probably Ka-SoL. Krister in Ka-SoL is just spewing out the most amazing psychedelic trance tracks there is. I for one rate Ka-SoL together with Hallucinogen at the top, they just capture the TRUE psychedelic feeling. I think I have around 100 Ka-SoL tracks and at least 15-20 are true killers, wonderful magic amazing stuff. And I do mean it, I heard a lot of tracks and I´ve been in this scene for 8 years now, if that means anything. Phew, you know if the Buddhas and Ka-SoL could have released a few albums in 98 and 99 the trance scene would have looked completely different by now, we wouldnt have the boring minimal progressive @!#$, we would still have true psychedelic trance JUST AS WE HAVE IN UPPSALA, Sweden!!! Always have, always will. (Thanks to Jonas and Orebro Underground!) But unfortunately all other labels think Ka-SoL is too heavy, too scary, too psychedelic, too weird and wont release it! But its not. Its just different, but then again not all that much. Its beautiful music and I love it. Its a different world just waiting to be discovered. Dont miss out. But then again you are already missing out cause you havent heard all their music. What are you gonna do about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lÿsërgïç Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 is there any KaSoL vinyls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 well D-Dave , imo it's about musical taste ... you realy should have spend some money to create a coverdesign for the schlabb releases imo ... and ofcourse not everybody is into this hard industrial crazy (skinny puppy) psytrance ... i realy liked your set on PLUR 2 which was imo a bit more minimal then the tracks i'm used to listen to from schlabb ... i dunno , the years of chaotic psytrance are over imo , well for me certainly but sometimes when i want to freak out I insert some wacko music ... btw , the case why so many people don't buy your music is because to many people don't know about schlabb ... why not looking for a distributor and invest some money into your project , i'm sure that would help . but life is expensive and hard to survive , i know ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 Setsuko..? Read my post again regarding money. Or send me the money you are talking about... The days of chaotic psytrance are as much over as the bassdrum is over. Personally I cant imagine non-chaotic psytrance, then its just trance... I dont think a CD should sell because of the cover. You want fractals? Go buy a Space Tribe album and you get all the cliches you need. Peace love and pitbulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akindo Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 The point about a distributor is well founded though... akindo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Great thanks a lot, you make me wish I had all the money I dont have. Thanks for your completely non-existant support. Im somewhat agitated but I hope you can survive it cause you didnt seem to think more than once. You just dont seem to realise how small the label Schlabbaduerst is, how it was founded out of the love of the music and the small core of fans wish to hear more amazing music, people not caring wether the music was on CD-R or with a fractal cover. Argh! Its not about flashy covers, not about excellent and fucking boring productions, not about worldwide distribution on some established label. Its a-boot a way of life! Whats a fucking cover compared to a new way of thinking? But Schlabbaduerst "shipped" to all continents of the world except South America I think, YOU can have it to if only you cared to ORDER the music at http://listen.to/Schlab BUT I SAID IT BEFORE AND I SAY IT AGAIN, THERE MIGHT NOT BE A SCHLAB 005 SINCE PEOPLE DONT ORDER 004 AND ITS ALL OUT ON AUDIOGALAXY. Its your loss - really! I have the music, do you want to hear it?! You get my point?!? @!#$ distribution. Excuse me for the harsh words, but those of you that has been around for a while know that Flying Records was the main psy distributor a few years ago. They were handling the Battle of the future Buddhas album "Twin Sharkfins" which sold pretty well and if all 3000 copies would have been sold the artist and the label would have gotten something like 8000 USD EACH. But since Flying screwed up and went bancrupt we didnt get anything, neither the artist nor BooM! Records which nearly made them bancrupt. As I said before, with an addition to the studio of 8000 USD and more releases the Buddhas would have changed the psytrance world globally, not just locally. I dont give @!#$ for labels or distributors. Its about the music and if you like it you support it, its as simple as that. Dont sit around waiting to get served by a distributor or your local record shop. Thats just lame. I might take the opportunity to thank all the people that did get in touch and support us over the years. Sometimes you got the music for free, as it should be, and most of you offered something in return, wether it was your own music or art, or just respect and love. The key words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 "the Buddhas would have changed the psytrance world globally, not just locally." well D-dave , face reality ... welcome to this world ! i don't want cliché covers , just some nice designed graphic artwork... _ Music & design has the ability to effect us at our own individual level and it's important for us to understand that there are no limitations to where it can take us, and what we can achieve with this information..... _ ok , then call it just trance if you think it's not chaotic enough .. you realy think people like your chaotic music you make ... okay schlabb 2 was a masterpiece but i'll spare you my opinion about the other ones ... don't you get it , godd music is good music ... bad music is bad music .... it's all a matter of tastes . chill D-dave , frustration is pointless ... and if you don't have the money , well YOU DON'T have the money ... geezzz , how obvious... there are many things that i would like to invest in but if i can't i can' ... you're just making a fool of yourself . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Hehehe, very entertaining. You are completely missing the point. Good music is good music. Yes. How did you get to hear the Schlab albums by the way? I dont recall sending many copies to Belgium. Dont spare me your opinions, Id be happy to hear what you think. If you like Schlab 002 you should try Schlab 004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 man , your pissing the point ... go professional ! and if you don't want to get commercial , well ... then stay underground ... we'll see how long you will survive ... and maybe i misunderstood your point , could be ... but why don't explain me one more time to start a decent discussion ... if you want to .. because i realy would like to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Uh, I think Schlab is just doing that, staying underground. We never had any other intention of going "professional". Whats that by the way? Cant you listen to good music unless its "professionally" released? Didnt you just say good music is good music? I never wanted to have to explain why the Schlab covers look like they do, let me just say I think they do what they should do, keeping an underground feeling... and if someone gets annoyed by the cover they wont like the music either. You have to go beyond that I think, and its not such a long way to go. Besides, they stand out among other covers and have a punk-feeling. To me there is something appealing in lo-fi noise just as well as in ugly and cheap graphics. And you didnt answer my questions in my last post. Please do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 .. answer , i downloaded it ... ofcourse i did :-) , I always do before i buy something ... but yes i think it was a masterpiece and no i didn't buy it sorry D-dave but i don't have that much money too ... they stand out among other covers and that's exactly what i ment with professional .. when people catch up your cd's they get this amateurisch feeling , no doubt ... and maybe you think it's so cool your releases have the punk-feeling ( tss ) well face reality but according to the sale statistics many people don't .. ... just chill ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Aha, no money. So we´re in the same boat then... Go professional and buy the CDs... again no wait, make that a big Sale statistics? What do you know about sale statistics? You should be talking of download statistics. I dont care if people think it looks amateurish, its actually quite funny to think about it. We sold over 100 copies of Schlab 001, more than 300 of Schlab 002, 50 of Schlab 3 and now 14 of Schlab 004. Im perfectly happy with those figures, EXCEPT for Schlab 004. Since we dont have to deal with distributors that only screw you up anyway, and we get personal contact with the lovely people actually ORDERING the CDs (hint) so... I much prefer this underground system. Oh Im chilling. Except when I get upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 .. don't you get it , I would have bought Schlab02 if the project would be a bit more professional ... damn D-dave , that's the whole point ... and if you just like the underground system and are very happy with your small group of fanatics then why do you start bitchin' about the low sale statistics of schlab04 ... the promotion Anoebis makes is one of the better factors your music get's more attention , if it wouldn't be for Anoebis I think i would never heared or even tried to listen to the schlabbaduerst sound. "Schlabbaduerst is planning to release a full-length album with Ka-SoL, but it is not even in the schedule since we´d need to get a 4-color cover and a good mastering and pressing which would cost a lot. " ... now look who's talking ... THAT's just the whole point ... you are planning to do some effort so why did you keep on flaming me in the first place ... it was your self-promoting attitude that bothered me ... now happy "Support your local (hehe) underground label or you wont hear the music! Its that simple..." well , if people don't support it , there will be no more schlabbaduerst ! it's that simple ... please , save some money ... do a more professional effort and look for a distributor .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firestorm Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 I personally don't give a rat's ass how a cd or record looks like, I have loads of records who look hedious but contain killer music. It's all about the fucking MUSIC, all the rest is just blah blah blah.......... I like that Schlabbaduerst DIY feel, comes over more sincere than 99% of that polished "psy"trance that comes out these days. ps:D-Dave, make that 15 copies of schlab004 ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Setsuko, if you dont understand why Im "bitching" about the low sales, maybe you can read my posts again and again. I already wrote why. There might not be any more released because of it and I think thats really sad. I think I have the right to complain about that. And check your posts, bad design, bad music, the days of chaotic music is over. Talk about bitching. Yes, it would be very nice to put some effort into making a full-length Ka-SoL CD, which this topic is all about. I envision the Ka-SoL CD with a John Bauer cover, take a look at Ka-SoLs homepage at http://www.algonet.se/~lull/ka-sol/ for a John Bauer pic. I would not want to do it any other way. And if the cover is nice, then it might be an idea to get a nice mastering and bigger distribution and a real pressing, which costs money. Yada yada. Schlab compilations have different colors and text with a fucked up font, a Ka-SoL CD would be something completely different. I might release a few of my own tracks as well and I already have the cover for that, its green white red and black, so a 3-color print. Anyway, I think we´re through with this. Thank you very much and have a nice life. Thanks Firestorm, thats great! And what you said is exactly what I am talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 how many times are you going to do an effort to invent replies .. i just gave you a few recommend for your upcoming projects , a bit of personal opinion (that's what this forum is all about and why i like it so much) .. but you didn' want to face it and keep on complaining ... you're depressed man , i hope you'll enjoy your life as much as i do ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lurk Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Dave is one of the most happy, "undepressed" people i have ever met. I can understand his frustration, all he wants to do is to sell enough cd's to release the next one, and even with the no-frills package, if you only sell 14, then thats not enough to make it worth going on. I think Schlab 4 is an excellent release, and all I can say is that if you buy only 1 cd in the next 3 months, and download 99 more, buy Schlab... simply because this scene needs Schlab as much as (if not more than) say Twisted, with their fancy designer's republic covers. At the moment psytrance is relatively trendy, the same as it was in '94/'95, knowing the fickle nature of this world it probably won't remain so for too long, but long after its popularity has fallen, people like the Schlab guys will still be propping up the psychedelic scene. Some people should think about that more, and respect them for what they are doing, nothing is more in keeping with the spirit that this whole type of music was started with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 agree Lurk ... but listen to this.. a psytrance cd without a cover is like a psytrance party without decorations or freaky location... i think visuals , art is as important as the music itself and is part of the scene ... don't you think , don't everybody think ... when you trip , you see things different , you enjoy the music different .. it's all about experiences.... i hope i made myself clear... btw , 'DR' creates one of the most abstractive and decent graphic projects i've ever seen... only the ripp offs are fancy and silly , like indeed the twisted lay-out nowadays... to me graphics is art , just like music is art .. it's about expressions ... the two together make it an intersting journey ... ofcourse not everybody cares about the deci , coverdesign like i do ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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