Lepton Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 I've heard people complaining a lot lately that most new releases are crap and that 2004 was/is a shitty year. Well I dissagree I found it a really good year many good releases and new labels. More styles, more nightmusic. Now I asked myself how do you rate a cd. How many good tracks you need before you buy a cd. I have like 500 psytrance cd's and maby 20cd's which have 5 tracks I really really like (that doesn't mean the other track are bad, just not as good). So I'm happy with 3 good (I mean good not avarage)/outstanding tracks since I know I can't expect 5 tracks I really like every cd. So How many good tracks it takes before you : -would say "now thats a good cd, I 'll buy it right away"? -review it as a good cd? Quote
Tatsu Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 It really depends how good a "good" track is! Sounds a bit strange, I know. But for me if one track is over the top and has the special twist I like, I'll buy a CD or compilation even if the rest of the tracks is just so-so or even bad. But if a track is just normal good and not especially stunning then it needs about 3 "normal" tracks to make me buy a CD. Quote
Lepton Posted November 8, 2004 Author Posted November 8, 2004 Yeah I know what you mean if it's over the top I'll would buy it just for that one magical track. Quote
Jeff Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 I've become quite a finicky customer over the years. Back in 1995 / 1997, I'd buy a CD with 3/10 good tracks, but now I only open my wallet for a minimum of 8/10 outstanding tunes. But don't forget that there were much less releases in the mid-90's ! Which leads to very few records for this year : - Infected Mushroom : IM the supervisor - The Misted Muppet : From the Legend - Synsun : Symphonic Adventures And planned before the end of the year : - Talpa : The Art of being Non - Filteria : Sky input J. Quote
sherlockalien Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 if there are more than 2 bad tracks, I dont buy it Quote
Anoebis Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 If there are 2 killers or 4 decent tracks I buy an album... But Gaëtan, I think as a dj you are more picky then as a "normal" listener... A very good track on a very bad cd can be gold for a dj because other djs don't want to buy that cd because it's too bad... Quote
Lemmiwinks Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 How many good tracks you need before you buy a cd. Like Tatsu said, it depends a LOT on the degree of "goodness"... one album could have a lot of nice tracks but nothing truly outstanding whereas another album could have a lot of bad tracks and one or 2 trully killer tracks... There's also the factor of how a CD "grows on you": some tracks don't seem special at first but after repeated listens you "get it" and find them great, other tracks seem stunning at first and fade away after a few listens (most of those tracks rely on "cheap tricks" like climaxes and catchy melodies) So it's not easy to call something good or bad... I've always dreamed of having a reviews section split into "reviews after a few listens" and "reviews after a few months". Now the tricky part is that you usually make the decision of buying and reviewing something after a few listens so people reading your reviews judge the album also on the "now" factor. In practical terms, I didn't like MFG at first but after a few months/ years their stuff growed on me and now they're one of my all-time favorite bands. On the other hand, I loved The Misted Muppet album on first few listens but now find it a bit too formulaic and boring... Quote
Lemmiwinks Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 I've become quite a finicky customer over the years. Back in 1995 / 1997, I'd buy a CD with 3/10 good tracks, but now I only open my wallet for a minimum of 8/10 outstanding tunes. But don't forget that there were much less releases in the mid-90's ! what I don't understand is how was it possible for you to find albums with 3/10 good tracks in the mid 90s and albums with 8/10 good tracks these days? Quote
Insejn Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 It varies. I recently bought 'VA - Source' purely because that Fractal Glider track is so damn good! Rest of the CD is so-so. I have pretty high standards. Maybe an average of 6-7 good tracks out of 9. Thanks to mp3 I never end up buying really bad CDs Quote
Jeff Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 what I don't understand is how was it possible for you to find albums with 3/10 good tracks in the mid 90s and albums with 8/10 good tracks these days? 201546[/snapback] Do you mean my proposition should be reversed to more accurately reflect the downfall of Psy since the glorious heydays ? Well, anyway, from a more down-to-earth point of view it is also linked to my personal money income... And I did succeed in finding 8 germs in the albums I mentioned. I know lots of people found those three pure crap, but hey, personal tastes... J. Quote
Quark Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 If I find 1 track to be extremely great I'll buy the album/compilation, and most of the times, I find the album/compi. to be quiet good in the end, after some listenings. That's all folks Take care now, bye bye then Quote
Cinos Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 1 really good track is required and enough for me to buy an album. (like Holymen's C4... one great track, the rest of everything he's ever made is shit) Quote
seraph Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 I will also buy an album that has 1 or 2 magnificient tracks. But, really, those albums/comps that have few good tracks mostly have other good or average tracks as well, so I would surely buy such album. Very rarely there were albums I hated whole( Delta - Send In, Send Back, one good track, X-Dream - Irritant, 2 average tracks, Synchro - Drugs, one good track, Intergalactic - Outer Galaxy, boring childish crap...etc ) The point is that good artists can't deliver utter trash, unless they are pure amateurs or have evry bad idea in that point ( X-Dream for example ). Quote
khogg Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 When I buy a CD, I want to be able to listen from one end to the other and enjoy the whole way. Not every track must rock, but some must, and no more than 2 tracks should suck. I try to buy cd's with 75%-80% good (good = at LEAST worth listening to) content or better. Labels that can consistently put out solid cd's earn my respect and I will take the trouble to check all their releases. !!!NO FILLER!!! Filler sucks. I don't pay for filler. 1 (or 2) awesome tracks on a boring cd is worth nothing to me (I'm not a DJ). Quote
Ale Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 I HATE TRACKS WITH NOTHING HAPPENING NOISES OR SINGING EVERY TIME. i LIKE CD WITH ENERGY AND STORY LIKE TELLUS2 AND MIRACULIX THAT SOMEONE CALL HOLYSHIT. Quote
Towelie Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 I HATE TRACKS WITH NOTHING HAPPENING NOISES OR SINGING EVERY TIME. i LIKE CD WITH ENERGY AND STORY LIKE TELLUS2 AND MIRACULIX THAT SOMEONE CALL HOLYSHIT. hahahahah whats that again ? Quote
psyspectrum Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 20% a minimum 50% great 80% outstanding Quote
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