Quazzi Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 http://www.danainternational.co.il/ I guess this one will alienate some more fans. Dana internation is Israeil pop singer that changed his sex from male to female. She won the Eurovision contest 6/7 years ago, had a big hit in some parts of Europe with the winning song which was called Diva. Well you get the idea. Atleast Infected Mushroom collaborate with leading Israeli rockstars. Skazi, well, just click the link and get the idea. 204395[/snapback] Oh my God!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 lol that Dana dude/ girl is still around? I remember the scandal it made in Israel back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuser Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 lol that Dana dude/ girl is still around? I remember the scandal it made in Israel back then 204432[/snapback] "Tune in" track is cool, "Chainswa" is ok, the rest is .... (what can i say)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 skazi's musik? xaxaxaxaxaxa good joke 203942[/snapback] LOLOLOL yeah Skazi isnt music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 http://www.danainternational.co.il/ Dana internation is Israeil pop singer that changed his sex from male to female. She won the Eurovision contest 6/7 years ago, had a big hit in some parts of Europe with the winning song which was called Diva. yeah i remember it.. ..it was a man about the music , well its skazi and i think its dry and not good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 yeah i remember it.. ..it was a man about the music , well its skazi and i think its dry and not good.. 204639[/snapback] Skazi probably fucked his was up to get Dana international in one of his tracks. damn, actually, i don't want to think about it.... think of something nice...... think of something nice...... think of something nice...... think of something nice...... AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH, can't get skazi doing Dana out of my head, someone shoot it!!!!!!!! PLZ HELP ME!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrickery Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I really have been ignoring this topic for a while but finally i have to say its pretty bloody funny... i mean if you are going to chose an anti-christ of psy why chose someone whois at least related in some vague way to the genre? Like the music or not there are definately some psychadelic elements.. commercial or not. So is psytrance and the concept of commercial mutually exclusive? I mean really... the concept of commercial is in a way that it appeals to the masses... anything that appeals to the masses seems to be considered commercial and therefore inferior. How snobbish is that!!! Are we really that superior? True commercial music is often "cheesier" and more "palitable" but does that make it bad? Yes i and many of you/us dont like it but really... that doesnt mean its not music. I am not that familiar with skazi, what i have heard seems pretty average... not brilliant but also not that terrible-please-let-me-hide-away-bad-either. Maybe i have had too much beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 his remix of smack my bitch up was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I mean really... the concept of commercial is in a way that it appeals to the masses... anything that appeals to the masses seems to be considered commercial and therefore inferior. How snobbish is that!!! 204705[/snapback] Infected mushroom is commercial and still has some intelligent sounds. Astral projection is very commercial & WHOW, they made alot of wicked tracks. From old skool to commercial, it was just THAT good that they got famous. They diserved it. The music had soul & creativity in it. I also want to see some psytrance for the masses. Being commercial is not bad, but being unoriginal, or stealing other peoples succes by a lousy remix, that's bad. What will happen is that people will think: oh, look at skazi, is it that easy to make psytrance, you only need 3 notes, a kick, an old melody from a 5 year old song and a bassline? I can do that... And after a while others will follow & the creativity & depth of the music will be gone. But anyway, In some point you're right, it's still a free world.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrickery Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I also want to see some psytrance for the masses. Being commercial is not bad, but being unoriginal, or stealing other peoples succes by a lousy remix, that's bad. What will happen is that people will think: oh, look at skazi, is it that easy to make psytrance, you only need 3 notes, a kick, an old melody from a 5 year old song and a bassline? I can do that... And after a while others will follow & the creativity & depth of the music will be gone. 204753[/snapback] I tottaly agree with you. The main thing i was trying to say was that using the term "commercial" as a derogetory statement without qualification is just not quite enough for me. I know there is an understanding of what this entails in terms of a description of music, but as far as i am concerned the more people get into psy the better. For some this will be through more "commercial" sounding tracks, re-mixes of music they know etc as this give a doorway into exploring real psy... whatever that actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Infected mushroom is commercial and still has some intelligent sounds. Astral projection is very commercial & WHOW, they made alot of wicked tracks. From old skool to commercial, it was just THAT good that they got famous. They diserved it. The music had soul & creativity in it. 204753[/snapback] Astral doesn't make commercial music, they're just popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 personally i think that's maybe the best tune skazi has ever done.. it's kinda catchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikkenteki Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I disliked Skazi for a long time until one day I realized that all he is doing is making hardhouse with some psy-sounds. After I started thinking of him as a hard house artist everything was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I disliked Skazi for a long time until one day I realized that all he is doing is making hardhouse with some psy-sounds. After I started thinking of him as a hard house artist everything was fine. 204845[/snapback] i just find his basslines really boring. and the procussion. and the sounds. and the arrangment..is there anything left to hate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiNet Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Once again a question about an artist has the "elite psyers" (what a crack up) bagging a perfectly good artist. They would cream their pants to have just the talent he has in his right pinky finger. I think Skazi has his own definite style. The "I wish" remix he does as his opening track on teh BPM FM set he did blew me away when I first heard it, as I knew the original well and had heard nothing of Skazi (i was under a mushroom somewhere). The excitement wore off pretty quick, but he knows how to find hooks and use them. Yeah you can argue trance is not about hooks but you can get out of the 90's anytime you like. Its over. The people have gone to the next party because the old sound had been played to much, and now 90's "psy"trance (goa whateva) thesedays sounds much more to me like one of the "Hard Trance" presets on one of my modern synths. But I find I have a deep respekt for artist like Skazi, Hallucinogen, IM, 1200mics, doof, Ott etc whoo have had the courage to change the scene when it started to get stagnant (if I remember correctly, the old "goa" was dead by the time 2000 came around, (well before for many others). How long are people going to defend the old music and deny embracing the new so that it "doesn't loose its underground roots". The originators of the scene have no fear of that, believe me, because they have already left on a new journey. Full of psychedelic promise and other worldly music, some goes doof doof doof and some doesnt. Anyway get ya jocks off and get in there. Skazi may not be number one but at least he aint stuck in a rut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Its over. The people have gone to the next party because the old sound had been played to much, and now 90's "psy"trance (goa whateva) thesedays sounds much more to me like one of the "Hard Trance" presets on one of my modern synths. 205001[/snapback] its not the sound its the feeling. if you cant understand this,im sorry about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 its not the sound its the feeling. if you cant understand this,im sorry about you. 205005[/snapback] this is what trance is actually about. and its true, if you dont get it, you dont get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crovo Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 here in brazil he's the master of psytrance. he's killah, the best dj ever... that's really sucks. the most of ppl in brazil don't know sh*t about psytrance and says that love psytrance... i think the scene in brazil is the worst ever. i can't see skazi like a good producer or something like that, their remixes suck! "satisfaction", damn! how can someone make a remix of this? just a pop artist making music for ppl who want to be pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Once again a question about an artist has the "elite psyers" (what a crack up) bagging a perfectly good artist. They would cream their pants to have just the talent he has in his right pinky finger. 205001[/snapback] Many "elite psyers" have talent at least comparable to Skazi's. But only few have such an impudence to release a mix of couple repeating sounds and call them music. If you know you can do better and have a bit of self-respect then you will never do worse. But making good music in these terms takes a huge amount of time, which is barely scarce nowadays. Now it's simple: you don't have time - you don't make music, as making some quick shit won't give you any pleasure. Skazi must be fond of what he's doing, that's what I'm a little jealous about . But do not call his music psytrance. It's neither psychedelic nor any kind of trance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Many "elite psyers" have talent at least comparable to Skazi's. But only few have such an impudence to release a mix of couple repeating sounds and call them music. If you know you can do better and have a bit of self-respect then you will never do worse. But making good music in these terms takes a huge amount of time, which is barely scarce nowadays. Now it's simple: you don't have time - you don't make music, as making some quick shit won't give you any pleasure. Skazi must be fond of what he's doing, that's what I'm a little jealous about . But do not call his music psytrance. It's neither psychedelic nor any kind of trance! 205070[/snapback] ill go as far as to say, its more along the lines of clubby, hard trance. commercial trance if you will (thats what i call stuff they play in all the hardhouse/hard trance clubs here in london). skazi is definitely not psychedelic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutty Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Skazi is like the Usher of trance. His music is about as psychedelic as taking a shit. Oh and by the way this skazi `hatred` is anything but new. I don´t know about the rest of you, but I´ve hated his music since I first heard it and he was one of the first trance DJs I ever heard. Thank god I discovered real psy like Hallucinogen, Infected, etc. Skazi has no talent, all he has is an ego and a big enough studio to make up for having no skill. For a long time I too have concidered his style nothing more than glorified hard house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatpat Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 what about Damage vs Skazi - Gumi? You cant tell me that's a shit track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crovo Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 what about Damage vs Skazi - Gumi? You cant tell me that's a shit track! 205273[/snapback] some old tracks are good... SOME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 what about Damage vs Skazi - Gumi? You cant tell me that's a shit track! 205273[/snapback] Well, if you spend so much time on making music, something may come out of it... sometimes... But the overall percent is decreasingly low... Arguably, two bad projects still make it twice better, than one (don't know actually if Damage is a bad project). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tashira Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 here in brazil he's the master of psytrance. he's killah, the best dj ever... that's really sucks. the most of ppl in brazil don't know sh*t about psytrance and says that love psytrance... i think the scene in brazil is the worst ever. Hahaha, I made friends with some Brazilian guys at Voov festival this summer and one of them came to visit me some days ago, so we started watching some fotos of this festival we want to go to next summer, Trancendence, and found some pics with Skazi and some over exited brazilian girls in his arms, gms next to them.. and my friend was like: Aaaaw this full on fuckers ! getting all the chicks... hehehe Don´t know about the psy scene, but the Brazlians I´ve met, specialy one , are just incredible.. Like big kids, always making fun and really friendly + educated.... Gotta check next summer =) Juppy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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