Guest Rain Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 ITS MUSIC. an artform. a way to express yourself. its creativity. not just like start furnishing a room to get some kind of mood and feeling. 212283[/snapback] woooooooow the moral crusaders ahead...who are you to tell simon what to do... music is an artform, a way to express yourself, creativity... that's what you think and so shall it be oooooooooh master of the psychedelic world... normally I don't envolve in such a discussions but you are overreacting to much... respect your opinion but don't like it all ... Everybody creates music from it's own perspective and you've got yours and other have theres... end of story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest .::E.P Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Simon was member of Infinity PrOject too? Didn't know that. I'm happy to discover it, Infinity Project is for me one of the best ambient projects. 212339[/snapback] He was not a member of The Infinity Project. He just participated on the CD. And as someone noticed. Graham which happens to be a old friend of mine was indeed the brain behind that project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 woooooooow the moral crusaders ahead...who are you to tell simon what to do... music is an artform, a way to express yourself, creativity... that's what you think and so shall it be oooooooooh master of the psychedelic world... 212495[/snapback] at least im reacting in a respectable way. you are taunting me when you are growling your "oooooohh"s and "wooooow"s, and thats quite enough for me to not discuss this with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hels Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 so what? he took some boring guitars and made a masterpiece.... 212463[/snapback] Yes, one of the greatest flamenco guitarists in the world "boring"...I bet that's what Simon thought before he used it in his song..."hey this is 'boring', hmmm, I think I'll use it!" Get real... Â This is why I can hardly stand this scene anymore...no perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 Yes, one of the greatest flamenco guitarists in the world "boring"...I bet that's what Simon thought before he used it in his song..."hey this is 'boring', hmmm, I think I'll use it! Get real... Â This is why I can hardly stand this scene anymore...no perspective. 212501[/snapback] i agree totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moai Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 this god or not-discussion is running in circles. Â i personally dont care about the samples. but i cant drop the thing that 50 seconds of PACO DE LUCIA is in the song 'around the world in a tea daze'. Â i mailed simon yesterday. i hope he is going to answer me. 212456[/snapback] perhaps he should name the track (hallucinogen cover) or tribute to PACO DE LUCIA or something then it would have been more respectable.. i agree that this and frisbee is a dissapointment.. still simon has talent so i wonder why he stole this... Â i hope the last track bedtime story in younger brother is simon and not a sample Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 20, 2005 Author Share Posted January 20, 2005 perhaps he should name the track (hallucinogen cover) or tribute to PACO DE LUCIA or something then it would have been more respectable.. i agree that this and frisbee is a dissapointment.. still simon has talent so i wonder why he stole this...  i hope the last track bedtime story in younger brother is simon and not a sample 212526[/snapback] yeah. or safety zone. damn that effect-solo or what it is there. i get totally freaked when listening to it. but thats not a guitar. but still. if he does those improvisation-solo's or what it is.. he is a bit of a melodiagenious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban jhankri Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Yes, one of the greatest flamenco guitarists in the world "boring"... 212501[/snapback] it has nothing to do if he is the best, i agree it's a nice melody but it's just guitars....nothing else...it's boring...it doesn't change my mood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericflyer Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Yes, one of the greatest flamenco guitarists in the world "boring"...I bet that's what Simon thought before he used it in his song..."hey this is 'boring', hmmm, I think I'll use it!" Get real... Â This is why I can hardly stand this scene anymore...no perspective. 212501[/snapback] I coudn't agree more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hels Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 it has nothing to do if he is the best, i agree it's a nice melody but it's just guitars....nothing else...it's boring...it doesn't change my mood... 212537[/snapback] Okay, is it boring because its just guitar? What if it was just piano? Or just violin? Â What if it was just one synthesizer patch? Â If it isn't boring just because it is just guitar then have you heard any OTHER Paco de Lucia? Â What if he had used a song by him that isn't "boring"? Would it be less acceptable in that case? Â Is something boring just because it doesn't change your mood? Â So many questions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban jhankri Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Okay, is it boring because its just guitar? What if it was just piano? Or just violin?  What if it was just one synthesizer patch?  If it isn't boring just because it is just guitar then have you heard any OTHER Paco de Lucia?  What if he had used a song by him that isn't "boring"? Would it be less acceptable in that case?  212545[/snapback] dude relax...it's my opinion..if you don't like it shoot me....  just piano = boring just violin = it isn't...violin rules just one synthesizer patch = boring  no ...but i don't speak about paco de lucia...i'm not saying that HE is boring.... Shpongle use it as an intro...it's not the main part of the track.....relax...  Is something boring just because it doesn't change your mood? 212545[/snapback] yes it is...from now on everyone will ask me if a track changes my mood...and if i say yes and only then we will accept it...else we will say that it's boring...because everyone cares about my opinion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hels Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 dude relax...it's my opinion..if you don't like it shoot me....  just piano = boring just violin = it isn't...violin rules just one synthesizer patch = boring  no ...but i don't speak about paco de lucia...i'm not saying that HE is boring.... Shpongle use it as an intro...it's not the main part of the track.....relax... yes it is...from now on everyone will ask me if a track changes my mood...and if i say yes and only then we will accept it...else we will say that it's boring...because everyone cares about my opinion.... 212546[/snapback] What do you mean relax? What makes you think I'm not relaxed  I'm just challenging your perspective...I think it's really quite a valuable thing to have done to one's self hahah  Do you want me to show you some boring violin stuff? I can find some I'm sure...as well as I'm sure I could probably find some piano or guitar music that you find not so boring...  Anyway...what I said about this scene having no perspective.....well...yea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 at least im reacting in a respectable way. you are taunting me when you are growling your "oooooohh"s and "wooooow"s, and thats quite enough for me to not discuss this with you. 212500[/snapback] ... Â oeps didn't know that a little bit ironic was confirmed as a non respectable way... you are very emotional my friend... just teasing... I mean you no harm ... Â bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Well in the thank yous it does say "Lucia".. so maybe that's that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moai Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Well in the thank yous it does say "Lucia".. so maybe that's that.. 212606[/snapback] anyone know if simon had permission using the ripped artistsamples (not the sample cds) in frisbee and tea daze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 that's something shroomy should have asked si.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 20, 2005 Author Share Posted January 20, 2005   ...  oeps didn't know that a little bit ironic was confirmed as a non respectable way... you are very emotional my friend... just teasing... I mean you no harm ...  bye 212600[/snapback] ha-ha. first of all, its very easy being ironic afterwards. second, has my reaction anything to do with your taunting? no, it doesnt. i cant take anyone serious having that picture of yours. and like i said in my last message, im not the one quote'ing hysterical about things and writing pubertal WOOOOOOHHH's.  take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 20, 2005 Author Share Posted January 20, 2005 Well in the thank yous it does say "Lucia".. so maybe that's that.. 212606[/snapback] i noticed that too. still very WEAK, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 20, 2005 Author Share Posted January 20, 2005 anyone know if simon had permission using the ripped artistsamples (not the sample cds) in frisbee and tea daze? 212621[/snapback] what artist has he ripped in frisbee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moai Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 what artist has he ripped in frisbee? 212631[/snapback] i dunno but i heard from another forum it was from Ella Fitzgerald - How High the Moon .. Â what really struck me, one day @ work i was listening to the radio and suddenly i heard a tune that both music and the singing was exactly like the shpongle track! i was a bit dissapointed with frisbee after i heard this.. c_c .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 ha-ha. first of all, its very easy being ironic afterwards. second, has my reaction anything to do with your taunting? no, it doesnt. i cant take anyone serious having that picture of yours. and like i said in my last message, im not the one quote'ing hysterical about things and writing pubertal WOOOOOOHHH's. Â take care. 212629[/snapback] you really don't get the picture here don't you... If it's really that fake to use samples & you must create them... why don't you If it's all that easy... I don't see you releasing any psychedelic ambient !!!!! Why because it ain't that easy to create what simon does... that's why... It's is not simon that is fake by using samples but it is you that preciously have been living in a cave... One of the biggest marks of psychedelic trance/ambient since the beginning until now is using samples and making them psychedelic... to create a story... When I heard for the first time the sphongle release I directly new he sampled a lot cause every goa- artist does and always will... this is like the most redicilous discussion I ever red on this forum & that's why I was so ironic in my post reply's... and If you can't deal with it... your problem... Â & btw: don't know if this was already mentioned but isn't there a law that you can sample any track or song for free without asking if the sample isn't longer then 9 second ???? can be wrong but remembered something like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 20, 2005 Author Share Posted January 20, 2005 reading your post again says that you were everything but ironic. but whatever. ive lost the energy on you. stick to your banal point of music-viewing. i dont mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 i don't get the fuzz either. it's just a fucking intro to the masterpiece si & raj created.. if anything paco de lucia should be fookin' proud that he can hear his own playing on a shpongle album. what goes for my head feels like a frisbee. c'mon you've never heard that melody before? it's not a rip off to use it you know. it's like "happy birthday" song.. and have you ever heard it better than on the shpongle album, i sure haven't! some of you are terrible whiners.. no offence.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusc Posted January 20, 2005 Author Share Posted January 20, 2005 i don't get the fuzz either. it's just a fucking intro to the masterpiece si & raj created.. if anything paco de lucia should be fookin' proud that he can hear his own playing on a shpongle album. what goes for my head feels like a frisbee. c'mon you've never heard that melody before? it's not a rip off to use it you know. it's like "happy birthday" song.. and have you ever heard it better than on the shpongle album, i sure haven't! some of you are terrible whiners.. no offence.. 212673[/snapback] what song is the melody from then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ban jhankri Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 hi in order to punish mr. simon posford i made this track... enjoy... http://users.ntua.gr/mc02152/Dubstuff.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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