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On 10/14/2022 at 10:54 PM, Penzoline said:

Well the thread is from 2008 and scythe of orion came out in 2010. :lol:

But yes, a monster album that one. I actually have it on CD.

Lol, yes I realised after posting but was too lazy to edit.

 

Do you know of any other good dark albums that released after 2008 and aren't mentioned here?

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Rastaliens "Freestyle" - an old favourite with a dark melodic sensibility and killer basslines. Sits poised on the cusp between Goa and psytrance, a bit like "Classical Mushroom". Yet another wonderful trance album with bad cover art. 

I wonder if it is worthwhile to distinguish between dark and hard, though of course there is much fertile crossover between the two. For me, Darshan are more on the hard side than the dark. They tend towards science fiction rather than horror, if that makes sense. Either way, Darshan are indeed excellent, though I prefer the first album. 

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16 hours ago, DoktorG said:

Rastaliens "Freestyle" - an old favourite with a dark melodic sensibility and killer basslines. Sits poised on the cusp between Goa and psytrance, a bit like "Classical Mushroom". Yet another wonderful trance album with bad cover art. 

I wonder if it is worthwhile to distinguish between dark and hard, though of course there is much fertile crossover between the two. For me, Darshan are more on the hard side than the dark. They tend towards science fiction rather than horror, if that makes sense. Either way, Darshan are indeed excellent, though I prefer the first album. 

Thanks, that Rastaliens totally sounds like my jam - Classical Mushroom is literally the first first psytrance album I ever heard and needless to say it opened my eyes!

 

Definitely agree dark doesn't necessarily mean hard, in fact I don't like hard psytrance at all.  By "dark", I mean dark themes, stories, etc.  Doesn't have to be horror per se, for example the Cybernetika album I mentioned is dark sci-fi which I love (it's also quite hard, so now I'm contradicting myself!)

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I went to Goa a couple of times in the early 2000s and two cd albums that caught my attention because they were just everywhere for sale were MFG "The Prophecy" and Rastaliens "Freestyle". No other cds were as available as those two in Anjuna. I guess that someone, probably slightly obsessive and with good taste, just copied tons of each. This might be relevant because Goa, especially early on, crosses over with techno, trance, acid etc and has been seen as fluffy or cheesy. Just one example in the form of a question to make the point: was Technossomy a Platipus band or a Goa outfit? For every hands in the air Goa anthem, there is a darker minor part of the track, or another darker track, or another outfit making more introverted sounds. Darkness has been part of Goa from the beginning is what I'm saying. This is inevitable with a Dionysian cultural movement, because every euphoria has its come down or shadow. In the Shiva trance dance you have to navigate the darkest hour before the dawn when you are tired and the music is at its most intense. Moreover, as Magus so rightly observes, how could a space-themed style not be full of the infinite darkness between the stars? Whilst "The Prophecy" is not dark exactly, its main theme is ominous and MFG's industrial roots come through in the music. Rastaliens always lurked in the shadows. Goa in the 2000s was not the Goa of the late nineties, but I think the point still stands. What I like about this is that like any good art form Goa has its salt and pepper, its light and dark. It makes sense that we'd be more attuned to the dark side now, given the darker times in which we are currently living. Do we see more eco-apocalypse, conspiracy, horror, and so on, in contemporary trance? But forget all that, in the true spirit of darkness there can only be one dark lord:

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On 10/16/2022 at 3:11 AM, StratosOZ said:

Lol, yes I realised after posting but was too lazy to edit.

 

Do you know of any other good dark albums that released after 2008 and aren't mentioned here?

Some great thoughts above.

The first one that jumps to mind is Alienapia – Goapocalipsis (2010).

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Apologies for the name dropping, but I did just want to mention the dark releases in "progressive trance". Some of the minimalist prog that came out after the millenium was dark:

Noma "Navigator" album

Tegma "Werewolf" & "What's Akabar" 

12 Moons "Hunting Demons", "Back to Basics" & "Into Oblivion"

Echotek

Holeg & Spies

Beat Bizarre 

Planet B.E.N.

Special mention of the Beat Bizarre remix of Tegma's "Werewolf" - what a superlative dark track! 

 

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