dee Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 there was a tread about an objective definition of full on , but really i dont how to recognize a "neo" full on track,,,, any examples?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I know that neo fullon is a term that has been used for a while but then they stopped using it... so the term neo - fullon isn't present anymore... I don't know exactly what is I always thought they ment that typical morning fullon formula like astrix and stuff... but I'm not sure since it's not used anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I understand that neo full on is this new, formulaic full on with bouncing bass lines and nominal melodies that tends to be full where in fact has not so much of the depth. To me, original full on was invented by Israelis in 1998 and was full power blasting music like Xerox & Freeman, Passenger, Children Of Doc, Cosmic Navigators, Pigs In Space ( psychedelic trance with massive elements ) and it turned less massive and more cheesy from 2001. I think that 'founder' of neo full on must be Astrix with his melodic style, but to me he is the only neo full on artist that had something to say with such genre, rest are very boring unless they are signed for 3D Vision label, the only label that produces quality pumping, intelligent full on these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 EDIT:Sorry guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Amithaba, man...... Why do you have Buddha in your name and avatar ? You do know that Buddha's path is peace, non agression and patience...everything you seem to lack for this music ( except for goa )... Don't be like this so we can take you seriously... Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Amithaba, man...... Why do you have Buddha in your name and avatar ? You do know that Buddha's path is peace, non agression and patience...everything you seem to lack for this music ( except for goa )... Don't be like this so we can take you seriously... Peace 225902[/snapback] my pacience for psytrance is over.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 my pacience for psytrance is over.. 225911[/snapback] at such a young age??? , no good man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Le Lotus Bleu Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 According to me by 'neo full on' it is heard an hybrid style between melodic full on & morning progressive. Personnally I don't like this calling, i prefer speaking about 'groovy full on', it's simply a full on production which bassline tenders to be funky, like Turbo Trance (Tryptych, Psypilot) or Com.pact (Visual Paradox, Ultra Voice) releases, that's my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 at such a young age??? , no good man 225913[/snapback] sometimes im exausted for working too much , and the only thing i see is more full on more full on... sorry guys , i really needed a cold shower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 According to me by 'neo full on' it is heard an hybrid style between melodic full on & morning progressive. Personnally I don't like this calling, i prefer speaking about 'groovy full on', it's simply a full on production which bassline tenders to be funky, like Turbo Trance (Tryptych, Psypilot) or Com.pact (Visual Paradox, Ultra Voice) releases, that's my view. 225917[/snapback] I agree with this... there's not much use for the term but it was in vogue for a while, and this is the style it was referring to. I personally call most of it "diet trance". Less fat, more aspartame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 there was a tread about an objective definition of full on , but really i dont how to recognize a "neo" full on track,,,, any examples?... 225886[/snapback] neo fullon is a new concept of old goa melodies mixed with new full on (the boring bassline , etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 neo fullon is a new concept of old goa melodies mixed with new full on (the boring bassline , etc.). 226007[/snapback] no it's just the other way... it is fullon with no old skool goa influences... mostly there are no melodies or just a climax at the end... for example ultravoice hasn't got no melodies at all... it's just fullon bass line... well their first album was, I think the second is more melodic don't know for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 no it's just the other way... it is fullon with no old skool goa influences... mostly there are no melodies or just a climax at the end... for example ultravoice hasn't got no melodies at all... it's just fullon bass line... well their first album was, I think the second is more melodic don't know for sure 226071[/snapback] really? but thats what i read at psyshop on a neofull on album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moai Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 really? but thats what i read at psyshop on a neofull on album! 226088[/snapback] u cant trust psyshop! their text is trying to trick you to buy shitty albums, believing it is great goa-trance influence from the old dayz, when it is exactly the opposite, mediocre shit trying to rip you off money just take alook at this link: http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/yse/yse2cd061.html "Classic GOA Trance does exactly what it says on the tin, GOA Trance as anyone knows it, expects it and loves it!" WTF!!! THERE'S NOT EVEN ONE CLASSIC GOA TRANCE TRACK ON THIS CD! I know what this is! The crappy full-on artists is trying to freeride on the great goa-reputation of quality!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmithabaBuddha Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 thanks for the warning Moai . fuck'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 u cant trust psyshop! their text is trying to trick you to buy shitty albums, believing it is great goa-trance influence from the old dayz, when it is exactly the opposite, mediocre shit trying to rip you off money just take alook at this link: http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/yse/yse2cd061.html "Classic GOA Trance does exactly what it says on the tin, GOA Trance as anyone knows it, expects it and loves it!" WTF!!! THERE'S NOT EVEN ONE CLASSIC GOA TRANCE TRACK ON THIS CD! I know what this is! The crappy full-on artists is trying to freeride on the great goa-reputation of quality!!! 226092[/snapback] As far as I know, pyshop copy+paste something from the album maybe some text from the booklet or just take something from the net. I have seen them do that.. Take care.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Le Lotus Bleu Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 no it's just the other way... it is fullon with no old skool goa influences... mostly there are no melodies or just a climax at the end... for example ultravoice hasn't got no melodies at all... it's just fullon bass line... well their first album was, I think the second is more melodic don't know for sure 226071[/snapback] Yes the second is better, more groovy-energic, concerning melodies i don't really know if it is really more this way . But one thing is sure the first album was nice but a bit empty sounding production sometimes for me. Ultra Voice really found his style when he created 'Dr Trance', a really step forward in his production skills for me, and it seems to confirm it with his new project 'Tactic Mind' (with Kyo-log). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Ultra Voice really found his style when he created 'Dr Trance', a really step forward in his production skills for me, 226098[/snapback] yes the second track on the compilation Blue Leprechaun, one of the rare morning fullon albums I actually enjoyed in 2004... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Neo Full On is..was the term for the Astrix style full on. I agre 100% with Seraph about 3D Vision. Quality full on, aggressive and serious and not cheesy stuff. I have to add South African artists also, and Fractal Glider,Rastaliens for intelligent morning Full On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlockalien Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 man, visual paradox used to have kick ass prog releases (tracks like laughing dog on bog, etc)... now its full on shit imo.... fat bastard sold out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffBeat Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 I understand that neo full on is this new, formulaic full on with bouncing bass lines and nominal melodies that tends to be full where in fact has not so much of the depth. To me, original full on was invented by Israelis in 1998 and was full power blasting music like Xerox & Freeman, Passenger, Children Of Doc, Cosmic Navigators, Pigs In Space ( psychedelic trance with massive elements ) and it turned less massive and more cheesy from 2001. I think that 'founder' of neo full on must be Astrix with his melodic style, but to me he is the only neo full on artist that had something to say with such genre, rest are very boring unless they are signed for 3D Vision label, the only label that produces quality pumping, intelligent full on these days... 225896[/snapback] seraph u r right dude !!! the full on we hear now most of it is crap and commercial shit !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Le Lotus Bleu Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 yes the second track on the compilation Blue Leprechaun, one of the rare morning fullon albums I actually enjoyed in 2004... 226118[/snapback] Rain have you checked Star Dust (MoonStone rec) samples as it's also compiled by Efrat, it could be your taste too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Rain have you checked Star Dust (MoonStone rec) samples as it's also compiled by Efrat, it could be your taste too 226782[/snapback] woooow thanx a lot for that tip mate ... I'm looking for a release like blue leprechaun big time but with this explosion of fullon compilations in 2004 it's just impossible ... so there is still hope, thanx again for the tip I'll definitly check it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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