Guest High Roller Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 This is not that common or is it? I have only heard one track with classic music sampled in to it and it is Ka-Sol´s Bergatrooper where they have sampled Gieger´s Bergakungens sal, I don´t know the English track name of that one but all i can say that its really cool. But in one way i find PsyTrance verry similar to Classic music but i guess classic music is the mother of the most music on this planet. So please all artist´s of the world!!!!! More classical music in trance..... If u think otherwise let me know! Keep dancin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soem aeld Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Hasn't IM - Classical Mushroom got a few classical sounding trax? I donno... I haven't heard it.. just a few trax.. Q: In what way is psytrance very similar to classical? btw, I don't think the bongas, congas and tabals are from classical music tho *I'm so funny.. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fg Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Please don't compare psytrance with classical music! the only similarity is that they are both usually instrumental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 i can and will compare music with or without your permission. it is how i learn. -have a nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest liarliar Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 In the hall of the mountain king on english, composed by edward grieg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kriz Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Infected Mushroom - Classical mushroom got indeed some classical sounds in it ... ther are others too, but cant remember any now .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lespagnol Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 how can you compare classical music with psytrance? I think that trance and everything concerning electronic music is pure @!#$ in comparaison with classical music...for example the song Scotch by infected mushroom has been created in one night and the first symphony of Beethov in one year.So please it would be an insult to say that psytrance is a sort of classical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slick-Witch Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 try to "dream" about Mozard Vs Slinky-Wizard ... H3H3H3H3 =] Or Simon with Bethoven's Melodies .... =] Psy its Psy always it's the top.... Vivaldi Rulez ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Honguito Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 The piano piece in "bust a move" by IM sounds very much like classical music I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peaceful warrior Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Why compare the amount of time it takes to write a song with how good the song is? Modern technology has revolutionized the way music is created. It is much easier to try out musical ideas with electronic instruments and computer programs. If classical composers like Bethoven lived today they surely would be using the modern methods. And you know what? It wouldn't take them as long to compose. So comparing the amount of time to write a song is stupid. Besides, I don't care how long it takes to write or even how a song follows the rules of music theory. In the end all I care about is how good it sounds. And to tell you the truth most classical music, although technically good, doesn't move me the way psy-trance does. Classical music sounds too much the same and doesn't contain enough percussive elements. (no power, no groove) It does contain some very tender, emotional melodies but so does alot of psy-trance. I'm not trying to lessen what the classical composers have acomplished but I do get sick of people acting like classical music is the heighth of musical expression. I know I had always absorbed that point of view but then I really just honestly looked at how different types of music moves me and came to the conclusion that many people just assume that classical music is so evolved without ever really evaluating how it impacts them personally. If it doesn't impact you personally what is the point. After all music is ultimately a personal experience so why take someone else's word for it. I personally think that some psy-trance (take Simon Posford for example) is MORE creative and musical than most classical music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 There's a big difference in manipulating sounds/soundeffects, squeecing knobs and writing some repetetive melodies and bass lines over composing a full opera or classical orchestra piece... Yes you can compare almost any music with eachother if you like but the fact remain that none in this scene (not even Simon) will ever be able to compose such a complex intelligent and unique kind of music like Bethoven and other classic composers did. It is 1.000.000 times more difficault to composeing only using a Piano and then transfer it inot a full orchestra peace or opera peace with multilayered vocals and choirs than it is to sit in a studio and put layers of sounds ontop of eachother using fancy effect machines to spice it up... Yes Simon and other artists are very talented but they do not come close to the genious of Bethoven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tranceptor Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 There are big differences between classical and psy sure, but the intensity of transitions I feel can be compared, not the outlay of keys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 peace was meant to be piece :-)...very early morning writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fg Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 There is still classical music composers and they don't use computers, they use their head for composing. I think most of the psytrance producers are not even real musicians execpt Simon and Infected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Well sorry to dissapoint you fg but Simon has never been a "real" musician. He has never learned to play an instrument. All he do is a lot of sampling and sound manipulation... Again he is very good at what he does. As far as I know Infected has never been playing any instruments too... But please correct me if I am wrong. By the way - coming in from the side..... I have been studying classic music on the Royal Danish Consevatory (Piano) when I was a youngster. I am sure there are some othe artists with some kind of "educational" roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bugbread Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Lespagnol: Play with some music composition software before you say anything about "composed in one night". Minimal, I could believe, but IM CAN'T be composed in one night, it takes more time than that to move all the damn dials! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Minimal takes just as long as meldoic dipshit, why don't you guys grow up and get over the whole minimal melodic thing?? The Delta has samples of classical and some X_Dream and M.O.S. It is sampled and twisted, not close to the real thing. They are different in many ways as EP said, I mean, i know more people making elctronic msuic without any prior musical experience than in any other musica genre`. Classical music is te ultimate genius of music, hence it is respected my the world over, whereas psytrance is respected totoally by a minor few in worldly proportions. So get over it, psytrance and all it's subgenre`s are wicked, but nothing compared to classical music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jerome Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 My GOD!! Get hold of a copy of Perfecto Fluoro mixed by Paul Oakenfold!!!!! GET IT IMMEDIATELY!!! It's classical music mixed with Trance (perfecto label 1996 I think) Take care! Jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fg Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Hey Elysium Project! Simon and Infected do play also real instruments, and Erez has been studying classical music and he plays piano very well, you can hear it at end of the bust a move, I think that he really plays that part, and Simon plays many instruments and he learned them all by him self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bugbread Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 But, yes, otherwise, I agree: Most good classical music uses a complexity that can't be seen in loop-based music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Again I am sorry to dissapoint you fg :-) but Simon does not at all know how to play a instrument... I should know since I have spoken with him about it.... As I said he is good at what he does....As for Erez I don't know. But I seriously doubt that he is educated in classic music. That does not make his music less good...It's just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fg Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Well then I'm not sure about Simon any more but Erez said in one interview that he has been studying classical music and i think you can hear it but of course it can't be compared with REAL classical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Well it's nice to know that other artists have a longer background than just a few years as a DJ or home composer (eventhough they sometimes do have more talent or "imagination" than a theory stuck musician).....:-) I will take a closer listen to Infected to see if I can find his roots :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lespagnol Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Sorry but what I m saying is true and if you are not sure you can ask infected on their site:the majority of their song has been written in one day (or two) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sliding atomz Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Didn't Simon have some musical training on the guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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