Guest albalotus Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Namaste my friends! I got an idea this days how to get music and make it easier for other people to have it too. I live in a county where you can't find new releases. The newest CD's here are 1-2 years old and they aren't originals couse no one here buys originals. The average salary is around 100 euros. So I was thinking if I can find somone with a similar taste in music like me and we make a deal that he buys the new releases, than copy them and send them to me and I wil send about 1/3 of the price to him. I know that this is not fair to the artist but it's also not fair that I live for the music and always have to beg my friends who are a litle bit richer and travel abroad for new music. I think that all the musicians won't consider this as an offence, but the opposite, like a compliment, becouse they'll know that we really live with their music. Bom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yo Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 u got the idea ....now u just need that friend : ) this is not a fair world anyway.............................there r no victims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest just_me Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 yeah, you're right... now I just need a friend ))))))) I'm am an optimist ..... I know I wil find one who lives in country near mine... somewhere in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest albalotus Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 yeah, you're right... now I just need a friend ))))))) I'm am an optimist ..... I know I wil find one who lives in country near mine... somewhere in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest albalotus Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 ups... sorry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Well why don't you start to import the music to your country then? I am pretty sure you're not a poor kid since you are on of the lucky ones in Mexico with a internet connection - most people in Mexico do still not have a connection. Don't take me wrong here. I do know that some people can't afford to buy music but hey all of this do seem a bit of cliche to me and frankly I know that most artists like to choose for themselves when and where they want to make a benefit contribution. To me all this wining about buying music is just a bad excuse for not actually making things happening by your own actions! - it's so much easier and cheeper to get a copy or to download it (when you have a internet connection)!...If you can't find the music in your country then do something about it! - Yes I do think it's a offense to the artists when people keep nagging on about who hard t is for them to find the music! - I am sure many people into latin music in Europe have a hard time finding the right kind of latin music but I also do know that many of them have set up their own imports and therefore DO get the "right" latin music to their countries. I am sure all of you people who are into this scene to milk it for free music will now attack me once again and tell me how arrogantt I am and that I do not know anything....well be my guests! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Järsimähäiriö Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Hmm... maybe, except for the fact that he seems to be from Macedonia, not from Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 well sorry I saw it as .mx not mk :-) Well it's the same thing anyway...no matter if you live in Mexico or Macedonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 By the way does anyoneone want to send me some burned copies of Macedonian folk music? I need it badly for my sampling pleasure...and I can not find it anywhere in Denmark. I will pay you a fair price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Cheroot Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Well, i can't say either of the arguments are wrong here. Personally, i buy all my music, i don't have a single burnt CD (and i have a decent collection of about 75-80 psy-CDs), coz yes, besides the obviously better quality, it is a show of support for the scene and the artists, and also just coz i like to have the artwork and liner notes and stuff. I cannot always afford it, so sometimes i have to go without other things that are on my wishlist. But frankly, i don't know what i would have done if i was in a country where not only are CDs very expensive, but also difficult to find. I would have probably resorted to downloading and burning music. I mean, c'mon, we all know that once you're into goa, it becomes your life. I really wouldn't care how i got it as long as i got it. But before taking the final step, however, i would make sure i had really tried my best to get an original copy from somewhere (even if it was a used CD from Ebay, coz indirectly, some money of that particular CD has gone to the artist). EP's idea of starting your own imports is absolutely brilliant. But of course, it would mostly solve the problem of availability, not price, and the economics and feasibility of such a venture would obviously have to be worked out. I would encourage every one in Albalotus's position to try this out. Well if nothing else worked, i guess it would not matter if you got a burnt copy from someone/somewhere, because if u could not afford/find an original copy then it would not make any financial difference to the artist anyway. At least by listening to the music somehow, you are supporting the artist in a way. Of course, the key point here is, how important is this "show of support" business to each one of us. For me, i think it's the most important thing right now, becoz we ARE the scene, we love goa, we talk goa, we walk goa, and we live goa. Downloading music or buying burnt copies is the easy way out, but tell me frankly, every time you listen to a pirated copy, don't you feel that little pang of guilt deep down in your beautiful goa heart somewhere? It's your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 I can see both arguements here, but Elysium doesn't need to be so openly a wanker about it, the first post was just being happy, Elysiusm takes this away from the whole damn thread! Well, Elysium, seeing as you have the contacts in the industry, maybe you should suggest more records labled export to Macedeonia hmmm? Christ, Elysium and Metallica should have a good damn chat about how to free the world of piracy and MP3, about the only two groups in this world I know who hate it so much! I'm surprised there are secretly funded murders of the people who run Kazaa nd Audiogalaxy and the likes! Elysium, piracy and MP3 are here to stay and you cannot do sweet SH!T all about thwm so just shaddup and accpet you toss! Go and lose it at me all of you, but I am sick of this I hat MP@3 and Piracy issue, when nothing is being done or will be done about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 I just got this to say to you Mike....get your head examined! You have a weird way of twisting words and swearing at everybody that does not seet it your way. I will speak my mind as much as I please and I frankly do not care at all if you agree or not! - But I do care when people like you are so damn unmature that they can't argue without telling people that they are wankers ect. Grow up Mike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hoffy Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 God, there are so many arguments and counter-arguments for this. I think basically if someone wants to pirate music, it is there choice. And i'm sure there are instances when the artist *has* profited from music piracy... I know i've heard tapes my friends have made and gone out and purchased the CD because i wanted it so much..... Personally, If I *love* an album, i will buy it because I want the artwork, and it is much better quality than some shitty 128kb rip from AG... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KS Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 mp3's are a good thing... they are compressed files, so they are not playable for high quality music.. but they are great preview tools, after hearing it on mp3 i can understand what the track is about, i have trained my ear well enough to put it into perspective ... so i get the album on mp3, see if i like it or not and then deciding on whether i purchase it or leave it... since i buy most of my cds over the internet, my computer becomes my music shop.. so i preview the albums i like.. very much like what i would do at a store, and then make the purchase instantaneously ... thats technology,,, embrace it... makes life so much easier. i think people banning mp3s are justified, but if used properly mp3s are benificial.. and truthfully since psy is not pop music i think most people would spend the cash and buy the cd/ vinyl version, unlike in the case of metallica where a college kid who would otherwise have bought the cd, downloads it on an mp3 instead... i don't think psy artists like wizzy noise or x-dream really have to worry about that.(psy is an underground genre after all).. i think that this is justified, and honestly if you don't think it is justified, you have every right to think that way... but hey thats life.... lets not get moral here... we are supposed to be open minded people aren't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 I agree KS but this tread was not really about mp3's but about this bloke that wanted to trade copied CD's because he (as he claim) could not find any new music in Macedonia. Personally I have nothing against people using mp3's as a tool for pre-listening before they decide to buy but yes I do have a big thing against those people that trade instead of buying! By the way Mike. I do not think it's my job to establish any distribution into Macedonia just because he can't find the music he's looking for. If he want the music it's up to him! Afterall I am only the musician and not a label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Author: Elysium Project (---.ds1-hhl.adsl.cybercity.dk) Date: 05-06-02 04:00 I just got this to say to you Mike....get your head examined! You have a weird way of twisting words and swearing at everybody that does not seet it your way. I will speak my mind as much as I please and I frankly do not care at all if you agree or not! - But I do care when people like you are so damn unmature that they can't argue without telling people that they are wankers ect. Grow up Mike it's called immature, not unmature, must be a danish thing. As well as seet, do you mean see? And hell yeah, I am iimmature, and proud of it Elysium, I am only 21.75 years old, so it doesn't mean shite to have you say that, because at my age, I am expected to be slightly immature damnit it man, you cannot post with out rding that pole up yo tight ass! see! Immature again Woohooo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Again Mike...please get your head examined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 NO I WILL NOT GET MY HEAD EXAMINED I ACCEPT I AM A FUCKWI, TSO WHY DON'T YOU?????!!!!!!!! (accept your a fuckwit too, that is!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 god it is fun pissing Elisum off, I feel so much better after a shitty day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Again Mike I urge you to get your head examined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 hehe, ok just booked myself into the Asutin Hospital for the Mentally Ill for another set off lectro therapy and a dose off lithium, and some battery acid while I'm at it. I am sorry Elysium, but my chick has got her periond and I am damn sexually frustrated, and I don't want my cock covered in menstrual blood, and my right and left hands and porn is boring so I take it out here for now :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slidingatom Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 Mp3'z can introduce people to new music and when you can't get in your own country it's a nice way to stay in touch with the latest stuff. I think people just get to know more music, obviously cd-quality is much better, especially on them high frequencies. I want to get the cd's but 1 I don't have the money as I'm a poor student 2 If I have the money, there's lot around here in Holland I can't get and I dont have a fancy creditcard I just think the distribution of psy in some countries is kinda poor. At our specialised store in Amsterdam we have about 100 cd's max and most of the stuff doesn't even come around here.... I would buy more, but I won't buy bad cd's just because they don't get the good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akindo Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 First of all, peace to everyone. He. I don't have time to read all of the above posts, I have a big math exam tomorrow and the day after, and I must study. I just want to ask Elysium (maybe someone already did, didn't read all the posts), isn't it a little hypocritical to get the Macedonian folk music copied, rather than setting up your own import, so you can buy and support the Macedonian folk musicians? Remember: "I am sure many people into latin music in Europe have a hard time finding the right kind of latin music but I also do know that many of them have set up their own imports and therefore DO get the "right" latin music to their countries." Support the Macedonian folk musicians, don't copy their music! PLUR and boom shankar! akindo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 akindo if you had read the above posts you would have known that it was meant to be very very sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 6, 2002 Share Posted May 6, 2002 hehe funny al of it and to you all, including EP, sorry for me beiung a fuckwit but I am only an amoeba after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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