Guest Rain Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 so tell me I see this name coming up recently but don't know exaclty what is??? tell me ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMbenjy Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 hehe.you can trie the belgium stuff milc inc tiesto. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
because789 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Robert Miles or Ian Van Dahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Most anthem driven 1 layer melody 3 minute trance jingles that are played particularly in clubs are Eurotrance. It's the most mainstream trance can go, and likewise the most lame to the point that its offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancbc Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Eurotrance covers a broad range of trance that from utter crap to complete brilliance. Eurotrance is sometimes known by different tags such as Dutch trance, melodic trance, uplifting trance, mainstream trance, commercial trance or in some cases 'cheese'. Today Eurotrance has become a term that has largely become synonymous with light, fluffy commercial garbage. Eurotrance is characterised by soaring female vocals, uplifting ecstatic melodies, sweeping background synths and lots of buildups and breakdowns. IMO, the golden era of Eurotrance was between 1996 and 2001. Artists and producers such as Armin van Buuren, DJ Tiesto and Ferry Corsten were churning out some mind blowing sets and compilations. Unfortunately, in later years as trance has become more mainstream there has been some real crap produced that has given the trance genre a bad name. Following are some examples of what I consider the absolute best of Eurotrance and are essential to any trance lover's collection: Armin van Buuren - Transparance 004 Kimball Collins - Generation Trance 2000 Ferry Corsten - Trance Nation Tiesto - Majik 6: Live in Amsterdam Tiesto - In Search of Sunrise 3 On the flip side here are some names to avoid like the plague: Ian van Dahl, Lasgo, Scooter and Darude. There is very little Eurotrance that is currently being produced that is worth one cent. If you are interested in exploring Eurotrance, go back to the years when it was actually good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Eurotrance covers a broad range of trance that from utter crap to complete brilliance. Eurotrance is sometimes known by different tags such as Dutch trance, melodic trance, uplifting trance, mainstream trance, commercial trance or in some cases 'cheese'. Today Eurotrance has become a term that has largely become synonymous with light, fluffy commercial garbage. Eurotrance is characterised by soaring female vocals, uplifting ecstatic melodies, sweeping background synths and lots of buildups and breakdowns. IMO, the golden era of Eurotrance was between 1996 and 2001. Artists and producers such as Armin van Buuren, DJ Tiesto and Ferry Corsten were churning out some mind blowing sets and compilations. Unfortunately, in later years as trance has become more mainstream there has been some real crap produced that has given the trance genre a bad name. Following are some examples of what I consider the absolute best of Eurotrance and are essential to any trance lover's collection: Armin van Buuren - Transparance 004 Kimball Collins - Generation Trance 2000 Ferry Corsten - Trance Nation Tiesto - Majik 6: Live in Amsterdam Tiesto - In Search of Sunrise 3 On the flip side here are some names to avoid like the plague: Ian van Dahl, Lasgo, Scooter and Darude. There is very little Eurotrance that is currently being produced that is worth one cent. If you are interested in exploring Eurotrance, go back to the years when it was actually good. 240546[/snapback] No, no, no. All you mentioned as good are melodic trance. However the names you tell us to avoid ARE eurotrance. Eurotrance is basically stupided-down club trance. Tiesto, Armin, Ferry - Melodic. Lasgo, DJ Sammy, Scooter - Euro See the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancbc Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 No, no, no. All you mentioned as good are melodic trance. However the names you tell us to avoid ARE eurotrance. Eurotrance is basically stupided-down club trance. Tiesto, Armin, Ferry - Melodic. Lasgo, DJ Sammy, Scooter - Euro See the difference? 240548[/snapback] I think I can agree with you Cinos. It would pain me to call any of the artists I mentioned as true Eurotrance. Unfortunately, there are plenty of elitist technophiles who are willing to lump them all together in one unfortunate category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k0pteri Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 No, no, no. All you mentioned as good are melodic trance. However the names you tell us to avoid ARE eurotrance. Eurotrance is basically stupided-down club trance. Tiesto, Armin, Ferry - Melodic. Lasgo, DJ Sammy, Scooter - Euro See the difference? 240548[/snapback] this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Most anthem driven 1 layer melody 3 minute trance jingles that are played particularly in clubs are Eurotrance. It's the most mainstream trance can go, and likewise the most lame to the point that its offensive. 240542[/snapback] Sorry man.. But your talking about "newer" Eurotrance. But your discription is more suited for "Eurodance". Good Eurotrance would be from the mid 90th's. Like the two first compilations from Tiesto, "Magik 1 & 2", Forbidden Paradise is also a very good compilation series. After 1999 things began to fall apart. Tracks became more commercial, kids started to "digg" the music. And lyrics became popular. Ero, Euro trance became more and more Eurodance. But artists like Armen Von Buuren keeps the "original" eurotrance spirit alive. See.. I think this is happening to psytrance. Full-On is the "new" psytrance. And it is apeling more to the wide crowd then Goa. Full-On is replacing "Eurotrance" as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I am going to put an end to this silly debate. this is the most simple and easiest way to describe what Eurotrance really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 This is probably posted before, but it's a good guide to the genres http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html In my opinion it's all eurotrance what you're talking about, just different sub-genres in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I am going to put an end to this silly debate. this is the most simple and easiest way to describe what Eurotrance really is. 240727[/snapback] HAHAHA And here is me carrying my new euro trance digipack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 This is probably posted before, but it's a good guide to the genres http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html In my opinion it's all eurotrance what you're talking about, just different sub-genres in it. 240731[/snapback] And i've said this before, but actually trusting that guide is excessively stupid. Eurotrance is a sub-genre of normal trance. And there is a clear difference between, say , Tiesto, and Lasgo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 HAHAHA And here is me carrying my new euro trance digipack 240737[/snapback] lol!! tis tru though....eurotrance is just plain unacceptable. its fair to say i hate 95% - 100% of it. i dont even like more "grown" up commerical trance , like uplifting, hard trance etc. eurotrance is like playing with your own sh1t. no matter how much you mold it and change it, and rearrange it. its still sh1t in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 And i've said this before, but actually trusting that guide is excessively stupid. Sure, it's not dead serious, but I certainly rather trust it than for example... you. Eurotrance is a sub-genre of normal trance. And there is a clear difference between, say , Tiesto, and Lasgo. There hasn't been normal trance in ten years. So what if there's a difference. There's a clear difference between The Delta and Green Nuns of the Revolution, but they're both psy aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Sure, it's not dead serious, but I certainly rather trust it than for example... you. There hasn't been normal trance in ten years. So what if there's a difference. There's a clear difference between The Delta and Green Nuns of the Revolution, but they're both psy aren't they? 240745[/snapback] you cant say that. the difference between the delta and the green nuns is not as extreme as say, lasgo and tiesto. tiesto USED to actually be alright back in like 98 / 99 etc. largo is just vile i-dont-wanna-leave-you-coz-i-love-you-too-much-baby commercial eurotrance crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 you cant say that. the difference between the delta and the green nuns is not as extreme as say, lasgo and tiesto. tiesto USED to actually be alright back in like 98 / 99 etc. largo is just vile i-dont-wanna-leave-you-coz-i-love-you-too-much-baby commercial eurotrance crap. 240749[/snapback] Well, I don't know lasgo so I can't comment, but seriously it can't get much more commercial than Tiesto. Look, trance is what I listened in the EARLY nineties (not '99 ffs), like: http://www.discogs.com/release/54719 http://www.discogs.com/release/98630 and it died back then (Tiesto & Co killed it). So for the rest of the nineties I moved on to Goa, but then that died too and I was left with nothing. Well, almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Well, I don't know lasgo so I can't comment, but seriously it can't get much more commercial than Tiesto. Look, trance is what I listened in the EARLY nineties (not '99 ffs), like: http://www.discogs.com/release/54719 http://www.discogs.com/release/98630 and it died back then (Tiesto & Co killed it). So for the rest of the nineties I moved on to Goa, but then that died too and I was left with nothing. Well, almost. 240762[/snapback] Really, your attitude is annoying. That was trance, yes, but it doesn't make Tiesto NOT trance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Dont really care about what you guys think about Tiesto.I just want to say that some tracks like Forever Today,Heroes,Euphoria and Athena sound pure trance to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Dont really care about what you guys think about Tiesto.I just want to say that some tracks like Forever Today,Heroes,Euphoria and Athena sound pure trance to me. 240778[/snapback] some of tiestos earlier stuff was quite good. the more euphoric, less cheesy stuff i could actually stomach. but thats not EUROTRANCE, it falls under progressive, uplifting club trance of the late 90s' EUROTRANCE in my books, is like Lasgo, and Ian van Dahl, castles in the sky, chedder choons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 some of tiestos earlier stuff was quite good. the more euphoric, less cheesy stuff i could actually stomach. but thats not EUROTRANCE, it falls under progressive, uplifting club trance of the late 90s' EUROTRANCE in my books, is like Lasgo, and Ian van Dahl, castles in the sky, chedder choons. 240781[/snapback] And not only your books - but just about everybodys books. Oh, I noticed that Ishkur the moron has updated his guide... now he puts every trance genre except classic, tribal and psy into the "eurotrance" category. Little does he realize eurotrance is a subgroup itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Really, your attitude is annoying. What attitude? You mean disagreeing with you? That was trance, yes, but it doesn't make Tiesto NOT trance. ...nor does a difference in music mean that they must be in different genres. Well, call it what you will, it's all the same commercial clubtrance/eurotrance to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 What attitude? You mean disagreeing with you? 240796[/snapback] No, I mean stubbornly arguing about something you know isn't correct. ...nor does a difference in music mean that they must be in different genres. Well, call it what you will, it's all the same commercial clubtrance/eurotrance to me. 240796[/snapback] Ok, why don't we call Tiesto goa while we're at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlockalien Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 No, I mean stubbornly arguing about something you know isn't correct. 240798[/snapback] there´s no right or wrong when it comes to genre classification... Its not scientific or absolute... accept that some people may view them differently than you and they are just as correct.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 No, I mean stubbornly arguing about something you know isn't correct. Oh, that's what you're doing. Ok then. Ok, why don't we call Tiesto goa while we're at it? Hmmmm... Because it isn't? Ok, ebough arguing with the kids, I let you to enjoy your Tiestos now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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