Cinos Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Opinion ahead. If you don't like opinions, read another topic. These are just as good as they're said to be, e.g. Damn GOOD! Transwave - Helium Shpongle - Are You Shpongled? Green Nuns Of The Revolution - Rock Bitch Mafia Mystery Of The Yeti Celtic Cross - Hicksville These are not: Chi-ad releases (boring, most of them) Pleiadians - IFO (messy) Planet B.E.N. - Trippy Future Garden (monotone) Saafi Brothers - Mystic Cigarettes (not good at all) X-Dream - Radio (at least it hasn't grown on me yet) Hallucinogen - Twisted (it's not the best psy record ever, like it's often portrayed) More examples of both, plz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 You're making your age very apparent Red status in psynews review section totally earned: Hallucinogen - Twisted / The Lone Deranger Cosmosis - Cosmology Astral Projection - Dancing Galaxy Koxbox - Dragon Tales Juno Reactor - well, whatever! MFG - New Kind of World X-Dream - We Created our own Happiness (1997 was a good year!) Jaia - Blue Energy Not as good as advertised: California Sunshine (in general) Paradise Connection Etnica - Juggling Alchemists Prana - Cyclone Total Eclipse - Violent Relaxation Miranda Should have been a classic (i.e., great but it isn't red!): Koxbox - Forever After Ololiuqui's debut Total Eclipse - Delta Aquarids Transwave - Phototropic Deviant Electronics - Brainwashing is Child's Play Morphem - Out of Focus Orion - Futuristic Poetry Pigs in Space (just a few) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 More that should be red: Green Nuns - Rock Bitch Mafia Juno Reactor - Transmissions Ott - Blumenkraft Infinity Project - Feeling Weird I'm not too sure about the red status on Koxbox stuff though. And what about my age? Everybody's got to express their opinions in a non-elegant way sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auryn Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 red status on Koxbox is deserved IMHO, but their best work is not on an album. Tracks like Too Pure, Life Is, and especially Dreampod are just a notch better than the stuff on Dragon Tales and Forever After. I would like to see Double Dragon - Continuum added as a super classic, and Quirk - Machina Electrica... too. And now that I think of it, Tristan's debut Audiodrome should be revered in the halls of cosmic excellence as well. stuff that never did it for me, though it is regarded as classic: mostly over-melodic stuff. I like psy to be trippy, sparse and brain-teasing... not over the top victorious! Pleiadians - IFO, Etnica - juggling alchemists, Astral Projection - Astral Files (dancing galaxy is much better, but even that is too much glory for one session!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 hallucinogen's twisted took about 5 years to really grow on me.. then one day i was listening to my md @ metro and realized.. this shit OWNS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Cinos, it is always nice to hear your lovely opinions, but I noticed you are mentioning few albums non stop as your favourite ones, in various threads, even if you didn't make that list I would assume you'd like exactly those...So, it seems to me that you have no right even making these lists considering number of albums you have and that is very little. Such strong, harsh statments are for professional listener like for example ukiro....but from having 100-200 records it is a bit silly to have endless tries to convince us how ARE YOU SHPONGLED ? or GREEN NUNS albums are good and how bad IFO is...I don't want to sound to harsh now, but really, so many posts and topics and you speak the same things...Change the record man... Peace ! To me all albums deserve red mark in the review section except of the few new ones that are marked and aren't up to it, and there are HEAPS that aren't red but have to be and Basilisk practically mentioned most of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 Cinos, it is always nice to hear your lovely opinions, but I noticed you are mentioning few albums non stop as your favourite ones, in various threads, even if you didn't make that list I would assume you'd like exactly those...So, it seems to me that you have no right even making these lists considering number of albums you have and that is very little. Such strong, harsh statments are for professional listener like for example ukiro....but from having 100-200 records it is a bit silly to have endless tries to convince us how ARE YOU SHPONGLED ? or GREEN NUNS albums are good and how bad IFO is...I don't want to sound to harsh now, but really, so many posts and topics and you speak the same things...Change the record man... Peace ! To me all albums deserve red mark in the review section except of the few new ones that are marked and aren't up to it, and there are HEAPS that aren't red but have to be and Basilisk practically mentioned most of them... 243263[/snapback] I mention the same albums in every topic? No. I add new albums to that list at the rate I discover them. Of course, some of them will always be there, but you can't really complain about that. And what nonsense is this about only "professionals" like Ukiro being allowed to have opinions. Please... Who said I'm saying IFO is bad? I'm saying it's overrated, that's all. AND another point: MY opinions aren't the point of this topic, you illiterate bonky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coilup Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Cinos, it is always nice to hear your lovely opinions, but I noticed you are mentioning few albums non stop as your favourite ones, in various threads, even if you didn't make that list I would assume you'd like exactly those...So, it seems to me that you have no right even making these lists considering number of albums you have and that is very little. Such strong, harsh statments are for professional listener like for example ukiro....but from having 100-200 records it is a bit silly to have endless tries to convince us how ARE YOU SHPONGLED ? or GREEN NUNS albums are good and how bad IFO is...I don't want to sound to harsh now, but really, so many posts and topics and you speak the same things...Change the record man... Peace ! To me all albums deserve red mark in the review section except of the few new ones that are marked and aren't up to it, and there are HEAPS that aren't red but have to be and Basilisk practically mentioned most of them... 243263[/snapback] I partly agree, how can somebody judge what was best or not so good if you only own a couple of albums. How can you compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 I partly agree, how can somebody judge what was best or not so good if you only own a couple of albums. How can you compare? 243277[/snapback] I can judge what's good from the albums I've heard. And that's what I did. The rest is up to you my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 This thread has gone too offtopic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 ...and then one day you wake up to find the severed head of a horse in your bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonflier Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Albums that deserve their status: Juno Reactor - all their stuff Eat Static - almost everything Hallucinogen - Twisted/The Lone Deranger Astral Projection - early stuff Cosmosis - early stuff Doof - Let's Turn On Indoor - Progressive Trance Blue Planet Corporation Blue Planet (should've been highlighted) Dimension 5 - Transdimensional/Second Phaze (ditto) Green Nuns - Rock Bitch Mafia (ditto) Overrated: Everything by Infected Mushroom Etnica - Alien Protein Psysex - Hardcore Blastoff The Muses Rapt - Spiritual Healing (good, but not THAT good) Probably lots more, but this is all I remember atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 rock bitch mafia isn't that good imo.. and neither is doof let's turn on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabamaru Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I never got into Hux Flux - Cryptic Crunch. It sounds a bit like random synths with no driving concept behing them. No focus, no groove, no warmth. Dunno... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukiro Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Look, this has so much to do with association. I heard most of ths stuff at parties back when it was released. Some I bought back then, the rest I've bought now =) Alien Protein is one of the greatest records of all time for me, but thats not an objective review - I have so many great memories associated with that record that it's difficult for me not to be unbiased. However, even objectively, it DOES have Starship 101 and Party Droid, among others... As for koxbox, I think both albums deserve to be called classics (The Great Unknown was a Saikopod album, renamed by the label). The sound of Dragon Tales is a little too cheerful for me normally so it's not a personal favourite, but I can appreciate it on a more intellectual level. Forever After on the other hand, is the truly amazing one in my opinion, especially considering it's age. I can see why I.F.O. isn't the holy grail to everyone, but it's certainly a classic - the impact of that album upon release was really something. The same thing goes for X-Dream - "Radio" - if I.F.O. put an end tothe melodic era (well, to some extent), Radio started the "progressive" era. There are always exceptions to this - Planet B.E.N. released stuff in 94 that sounded like it could be from 2000 under the name Nordreform Sound System. And to deny his Trippy Future Garden it's place in the hall of fame? Man, I don't know how the heck you listen to records... but anyway, Radio was very very influential, and for good reasons. And sure you're entitled to an opinion Cinos, but I know that my opinions were much less well-founded (and different!) when my record collection was much smaller. Now everyone likes whatever they like, you included, but if we're going to make a neutral and unbiased analysis of the musical merits (and scene influence) of these albums, experience and knowledge is obviously crucial. think this is what Seraph and other were hinting at, and I would wager that people with huge collections and a 10+ year history in this scene can put more weight behind their words than someone who's not been around as long, personal attechment and memories aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 And sure you're entitled to an opinion Cinos, but I know that my opinions were much less well-founded (and different!) when my record collection was much smaller. Now everyone likes whatever they like, you included, but if we're going to make a neutral and unbiased analysis of the musical merits (and scene influence) of these albums, experience and knowledge is obviously crucial. think this is what Seraph and other were hinting at, and I would wager that people with huge collections and a 10+ year history in this scene can put more weight behind their words than someone who's not been around as long, personal attechment and memories aside. 243319[/snapback] Now, look at this. Ukiro puts up pretty much the same opinions as Seraph, but much better. Suddenly the issue doesn't offend me at all, and I even agree with him. Of course I don't know as much as some others, but these are my current opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogumelo Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Pleiadians still owns big time. albums that are highlited which im not very fond of The mystery thirteen crystal skulls 1200 mics astrix -eye2eye logic bomb - unlimited drug theraphy zoo albums which deserve red imo: Darshan - Awakening Forest of the saints-goa gil mix Mwnn - Teleportation phony orphants - symphony ra - to sirius d5 - transdimensional and finally XENOMORPH - Cassandras Nightmare... <---RED AND BOLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogumelo Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 i just noted that cinos registered this forum one month later than me. yet i ve done 103 posts so far cinos you have 1892 ??? posts up till now... Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coilup Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 i just noted that cinos registered this forum one month later than me. yet i ve done 103 posts so far cinos you have 1892 ??? posts up till now... Wow 243357[/snapback] The man is on a mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 i just noted that cinos registered this forum one month later than me. yet i ve done 103 posts so far cinos you have 1892 ??? posts up till now... Wow 243357[/snapback] And all have been pure quality! Well, almost. 12.2 posts/day owns your puny 0.6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unikos Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 all this talk about classics and no mention of sandman's work.... i d say that at least witchcraft should be given red status (havent checked if it actually has) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naiman Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I can't understand how come this is not red? Union Jack : There Will Be No Armageddon And why THIS is? Astrix : Eye to Eye Hopefully this bug will be fixed in Psynews V2. I will also say something that i can't keep inside me anymore, for me, GMS - The Growly Family is underated and was very unique at the time, still like it much, even though the sounds sound out-dated. After this something went wrong with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogumelo Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I can't understand how come this is not red? Union Jack : There Will Be No Armageddon And why THIS is? Astrix : Eye to Eye Hopefully this bug will be fixed in Psynews V2. I will also say something that i can't keep inside me anymore, for me, GMS - The Growly Family is underated and was very unique at the time, still like it much, even though the sounds sound out-dated. After this something went wrong with them. 243501[/snapback] Nice Avatar m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coilup Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Dont understand who decides whats read and what isnt??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Dont understand who decides whats read and what isnt??? 243921[/snapback] AFAIK it was some voting system from the early days of Psynews. It is inactive now. IMHO we need it back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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