The Good Old Times Of Melodic & Emotional Goa Trance !

[Guest Andre]

Psychedelic Hippie, I agree with you.

We can ignore that are a lot of great talents playing minimal, full-on and progressive psy. Minimal tends to be really dark without emotional atmosphere but there is a lot of new talents mixturing the "breeds" of the new trance era. I like so much progressive. To me is the best style to dance and trip, makes me move without rush and bang like a crazy... I know there is a lot of people doesn´t like progressive. I respect. The great Full-on from the old times are really emotional. The sound is going for new directions but I think that will always exists trance with the old-school style that you like so much. But try to find some new good stuff that you will like today.

 

 

Regards

Andre

[Guest lunar trout]

y'en a marre!

coupe ta barbe!

[Guest Chi-B.C.]

Red Headed Stepchild, tell us what melodic music you have found that is so new...?

[Guest Ancientz]

1995 = the spiritual goa times

2002= psychedelic bullshit with no soul

 

 

i am 1 of the old schoolers, im trying to get 3 old school goa producers with me to make alot of old school tracks with todays equipment. U guys are complaining that the sound is gone.... well....... It is not gone, the music contains in our soul and spirit, it is OUR job to transform it into Audio.. If u guys who claim u like old school goa SOOO MUCH, why dont u start contributing and stop whining about it.

AND....... Its the fuckin DJ's fault that the old school @!#$ aint bumping in the clubs man ( god bless Goa Gil ) minimal and progressive and full on psy is popular today, theres alot of interesting stuff... but in MY opinion.. It cannot compare to the old stuff ( destination goa 2 + hallucinogen the lone deranger )

todays psy lacks effort, a fuckin simple kick drum on loop+a percussion loop added as a layer and oscilloratin FX .They make it cos its easy to make,and the faster they make it the more money they eventually gonna get.

i miss the good old synthlines .. its fuckin gone man, good thing we have guys like me , complexz and ATMA to keep the spirit alive. U know theres alot of things that can b done to bring the old school sound back in focus,but that depends on how much effort u wanna put into it. But first of all we need more producers makin Goa. If there are no one makin goa how the @!#$ is it gonna come back?

Start makin goa again!!!!!!! theres enough of this minimal ,progressive ,full on !!!!!

Its fuckin Techno with FX !!!!!!!!!!!! sorry, had to let out some aggression there.

God bless goa producers

[Guest stringtheory]

I am relatively new to psy/goa trance, so I can't comment much on the old scence. But I do know alot about electronic music in general. First off, who gives a damn about scenes and parties ?? It is about the music. That is all that is important. Old scene, new scene, it is irrelevant. All that is important is creativity and originality. Moreover, there are some wonderful groups that intertwine melody and harmony into their music right now. Sphongle is a perfect example. Tales of the Inexpressible is a beautiful album with full melody and rich, varied textures. But it was not even remotely cheesy. Melody and emotion sometimes can be sooo overdone that it becomes cheese. Like everything else, balance is needed. Dark Soho is another phenomenal new artist. The music is dark, but deeply emotional, and very beautiful. Beauty comes in many forms. Scenes and trends come and go, at the end of the day, all that is left is the music. Each piece should be judged individually. Not as in how it fits into todays or yesterdays scene.

[Guest Dj_Noisemaker]

This line will say much:

Carpe Diem with Psychedelic Trance

[Guest Ancientz]

Stringtheory, i agree shpongle is one of my favourite group when it comes to headphone listening. But remember, the SCENE IS IMPORTANT, and of course the music is important, there wouldnt b a scene without music would it?

[Guest AutoMath]

Stringtheory.

 

Everything started with the scene. On the dancefloor is where it was evolved, and still is where the cutting edge is happening. You may listen to your music at home, but remember that without the dancefloor there would not be the wealth of fantastic music you have today. And who wants to listen to music at home when you can experience it at a party with all of the other aspects that belongs to the experience of this music. Sure I listen to it in my loneliness and dream of old times and occasionally goes to a party even though it was a couple of years since the last. But nothing compares to sharing the music-experience with others, become synchronised with the group-organism and be able to live out the music to its fullest. If you only listen to it at home, you are not getting half of what all this is about.

[Guest stringtheory]

I respect the statement of cutting edge music coming from the dancefloor. But again, dancing does not define the music. I have no interest in dancing. Dancing is a RESPONSE to the music, not an element of the music itself. Dancing is good for exercise, but it has nothing to do with how one subjectively interprets the music. The experience one has stems from the interpretation, from that feeling and that understanding. The experience has nothing to do with dancefloors, scenes, or even drugs for that matter. Scenes have a rigidness about them. A snotty or uptight mindset more often than not accompanies a "scene". Often they are not inclusionary, and too often include a "I am cooler than you mindset because I am in the scene. I somehow understand the music better"...Understanding of the music comes only from the music itself, not drugs, or dancing, or anything else for that matter. At the end of the day, scenes fade, and grow cold and dull. The music is everlasting.

[Guest bugbread]

Stringtheory: I agree with you, yet somehow disagree. I agree that defining a "scene" is a good way to make a fun, organic, flowing thing into some rigid structure and thereby destroy it. However, one good thing about a scene is its ambiance. Think about a Heavy Metal show, a Reggae show, and a Rave, but without the music. Even without the music, there is a different vibe/atmosphere that you can feel through the crowd. I don't think the goa scene should necessarily stay the same, but I do feel that it's changed in such a way that the atmosphere at many shows is not as special as before.

 

My recollections of old shows were of a certain "feel", created by the clothing and behaviour and art of the people at the shows. It's not that "you shouldn't come to a psy show unless you're dressed as a hippy", but when everyone was in bellbottom jeans and tie-dies, it had a different "feel" than it does now, when people are wearing CalvinKlein and Hilfiger (or whathaveyou).

 

I guess what I dislike about the scene changes is that now it feels less "different" than everyday life. I used to go to outdoor shows and feel like I was in a different country, where everyone dressed differently and behaved differently (inviting people from the next tent over for some barbeque, etc.) whereas now I see the same people acting the same way as when I'm in the city or watching MTV.

 

Hmm...This isn't coming out the way it should. I guess I just mean to say that whereas the scene used to have a unique and unusual feel, now it feels like the same massproduced society I live and work in every day. And I miss that unique feeling.

 

On the other hand, as you said, it's really about the music. Having a good scene is like picking up a $100 bill: it's awesome, but it's the exception, not the rule, and I wouldn't walk around saying "Man, I never find $100 bills any more. This sucks." It was special, but all things pass, and I can just hope that one day in some other genre I can find that same feeling of otherworldliness. The scene wasn't the reason I came to like psy; the music was, and even if the scene deteriorates into a bunch of gangsters, thugs, and frat boys, none of that can make Shpongle any less good

 

And though I LOVE to dance, I agree: dancing is the response, not the cause. If someone wants to listen to music sitting down in the grass and smiling, that's just as cool to me. Always bugged me when people insisted that everyone MUST dance...There's a billion ways to enjoy music, be it dancing, jumping, standing, lying down, rolling around on the lawn, whathaveyou.

[Guest Ancientz]

Stringtheory.... Listen to hallucinogen - shakey shaker at home, then go to a party with 5000 people on the dancefloor and listen to the same track, i need say no more

[Guest stringtheory]

Bugbread: Great Response! I agree about Sphongle, absolutely phenomenal stuff. I have Tales of the Inexpressible, but I don't have Are You Sphongled ? Which I will hopefully get soon. And don't get me wrong, I guess a little bit of dancing can be fun now and again, whatever floats your boat I guess! Dancing isn't my bag for the most part though. Any other groups you are into ? I am a bit new to psy/trance, And so I am always looking for new and interesting stuff.

[Guest bugbread]

Well, you've probably read all the names, and I don't know what type of music you like within psy, but f you like Shpongle, I personally say: listen to everything by Simon Posford, even his worst stuff is OK, and his great stuff is awesome. Try Infected Mushroom - Classical Mushroom. Sometimes cheesy instruments, but used SO well. Other than that, you'd have to tell me what you've liked so far so that I can make sure to recommend stuff you'd like. There's a lot of artists that most people will recommend as good (Logic Bomb, Delta, X-Dream, Green Nuns, GMS, Astral Projection, the list goes on), but don't take a recommendation from someone until you know what they like or you'll get stuck listening to something you hate because someone else likes it .

 

NP: Velvet Underground - Heroin