v4K V.S. Infected Mushrooms

[Guest v4K]

Hi, I'v been reading the posts/opinions about the Infected Mushrooms on this site and ther's something wrong here and I like you to help me figure out what's that:

 

I personaly don't like the IM sound nor style and have NEVER enjoyed it. Like many of you, IM was one of the very first psytrance grups I got to listent to, but never did really like one song but Psycho and Symphomatic.

The strucure on theyr soungs it's berly psychedelic to me

I can't find not even one single psychedelic enough song on BP Empire that gets to satisfy me... the closest thing to that is Tasty Mushroom and i'm already sick of that song, they play it everywhere.

 

So, those are my points for me to deslike Infected Mushrooms, but everybody here seems to love them.

Some people takes things so personal when I speak my mind or my point of view about IM

 

My cuestion is: Am I wrong or something?

 

 

v4K

[Järsimähäiriö]

Of course you are not "wrong", there are no absolutes when it comes to "goodness" or "badness" of music. I couldn't care less about Infected Mushroom. (almost) All their songs significantly lack structure and idea, they sound like a bunch of random noises put all over each other (or in the case of BP Empire, less noises but still arranged in a way that doesn't make much sense). The two exceptions to this lousines IMO are "Muddy Effect" and "Over Mode", two tracks that I actually enjoy quite a lot. And I do have all three of their albums (why, beats me), so it's not like I don't know what the devil I'm talking about.

[Guest ZeLengen]

No, you're not wrong, v4k. Tastes in music are subjective, there's no good or bad in general, only in personal likings. For me it's different though, I like IM very much. Some of their songs bring up feelings and energy that I can hardly discribe. And that doesn't mean that you're not entitled to your own opinion. There'll be music that you like very much, and I don't.

 

ZeLengen.

[Guest amitabha]

i like IM for doing their own thing and evolving.. not some "Model" music like GMS, Talamasca, Wizzy noise etc...

 

They are Unique.. like legendary Si pos!! strange arrangement, perhaps.. but for me, its in a good way!

there are TONZ of stuff that sounds just the same.. would be funny if EVERYONE would try to search new sounds and new ways to do stuff.

[Guest WoodWormateriX]

IM R Very special i think.. and better that many others

they have a very very wicked style and lots of crazy insaine sounds its a very nice group! i have no bad feelings about IM, but i didn't find Bp Empire that good as i thought it should be..

[Guest AtomikElf]

here's what i think......:

 

"the gathering" is a top-class album that i really like....9/10

 

"classical mushroom" is like half good, half cheese....too much cheese for me to really like it a lot (and i also gave it the psylocybe test - and i must admit, it was really trippy, but i just don't dig the cheese) ....6/10, maybe 7/10

 

"bp empire" just reeeeeks of stinky cheese and i think it sucs. the only reasonable song is "spaniard" the rest hmmm, like ....4/10 for that album

 

so there we go spacepeople

keep it light

"PlaySpace"

[Guest FinnHawk]

What I like most about IM too is that they are so unique... They're sound is very distinct and not the typical goa sound...

sometimes after I download tracks by other artists and I'll think "this sounds just like all the other typical goa out there" but not with IM.

[Guest Rumz]

I agree with atomik elf, they atarted off really great.. I loved the stuff that erez did with the shidapu guys so this is not surprising... but BP empire was a bit of a let down.

 

I will give them credit where credit is due, there old tracks stand out and i found them very innovative and refreshing, but not the new ones... my fazv track by them is by a very very long way "Muddy effect"

 

But this one always seems to go unnoticed (X-cept by J............)

 

RUmZ

 

NP: A friends promo track.

[Guest rabdom L]

Gathering rocked

Classical sold alot of copies

BP Empire - crap - unbalanced however is one track on the album i've got time for - IM played live here last year and started with unbalanced - 10 in the morning, the dancefloor (on the beach) was packed but unenthusiastic people, IM came on and unbalanced began a journey that has well deserved legendary status - I think live, their dynamic changes and they become interesting. I remember the first time they were down here, SA2000-Millenium - they had just released gathering and were totally unheard of down here in Cape Town. they stole the show, which was hard because there were only live acts - it started with Shpongle, then Koxbox, then Cydonia, then etnica, then x-dream - 5 of the hottest live acts ever - then IM - they kikked, thumping, awesome.

[Basilisk]

i pretty much agree with atomikelf... the gathering is their best, classical had a bit too much cheese, and i dont find bpempire interesting even after repeated listens. the age of infected mushroom is over.

[Guest KS]

i like a lot of theiur tracks..

like mushi mushi, muddy effect, psycho (when it came out), the whole gathering album, most of classical, but then bp empire came along.. some good tracks like unbalanced, spaniard etc... but recently i haven't liked doremifas, red filter, fly agric or smahutta.... so they have dissapointed me of late.... i guess they'll come around in a bit, it is just a matter of time....

[Guest peaceful warrior]

You guys are crazy, B.P. Empire is a masterpiece nearly without compare. In my opinion they have just gotten better and better. And thats saying alot because their first two albums were two of the greatest albums ever produced. And they continue to get better and better. (more than you can say for some artists) When I first heard The Gathering I knew these guys would go far. And they have never gone wrong. They have constantly evolved their sound and it is always good. Their newer stuff is just amazing! It is just too bad that some of you don't agree. I know of course it comes down to personal taste but I still have to wonder how and why you have that taste. Its like the way I look at people who don't like Psy-trance at all. I just don't understand it. If you like Psy-trance how can you not like any one of Infected's songs. I can understand if it isn't your favorite but how can you just say it sucks. I can't think of one artist who is held in high regard in the Psy-trance scene who I think sucks. Yeah there are some I like more than others but nothing that I think just sucks. I can't help but wondering if there is some other motivition underlying comments that are so negative.

I completely disagree. Infected Mushroom are going stronger than ever and I am just grateful that their music continues to be so good.

[Guest bugbread]

Rabdom L: Shponlge played live in 2000? I thought their first live performance was at Solstice in 2001. How was it arranged? Live instruments, or just simon, Michelle, and Raja? Maybe the Solstice gig was their first full "orchestral" performance...Very curious.

 

Ubar Tmar - Eigokaiki

[Guest stringtheory]

Infected Mushroom not complex ? Huh? They are one of the best groups I have ever heard, in any genre, period. Their tracks are intelligent, and perfectly structured. If you want to talk about a lack of structure, then Pleadians, Family of Light would have to take the cake ! No cheese in IM. When I think of cheese, a number of Astral Projection tracks come to mind. If you like to dance, then maybe IM is not your bag, but if you are into intelligent, complex music, with an epic feel to each track, then IM is it.

[Guest stringtheory]

To Peaceful Warrior:

Great post again man! Seems like we have a similiar taste in music, and some similiar ideas. It always good to see your name on the post dog ! Keep havin fun and peace!

(P.S. I ordered B.P. Empire, it should be here any day now. I can't wait!)

[Guest bugbread]

Stringtheory: Looks like we share the same taste as well. There was one statement in your post that is surreal to me: "If you like to dance, then maybe IM is not your bag". I hear people say this about MOST of the music I like. "SUre, if you like to dance, Shpongle might not be your bag, but it's awesome headphone music", etc.

 

What's weird is, it ALWAYS seems like these bands are the ones that rocketpropel me to the dance floor the most. I nearly exploded from dancing at Shpongle's live show. IM will play here on Saturday, and I'm expecting them to grind me into the ground with dance. It seems like the groups everyone calls "stompers" just get my head bobbing at most, and the "headphone" music makes me kick my feet up above my head and whirl like a dervish.

 

It's not that there was anything wrong with your statement, I guess I'm just weird in that way. My girlfriend mentioned it to me, too: "The slower the music more becomes, the more energetic your dancing gets". Doesn't work with ambient, though

[Guest Peaceful Warrior]

To Stringtheory: Yeah it does seem like we have similar taste in music and also some similar ideas in general. Thats cool. Anyway I hope you like B.P. Empire as much as I do. I hope it doesn't disappoint you the way it did for some Infected Mushroom fans. Just know that it is different from their first 2 albums. The whole approach is a little different. There is more space and depth to the sound environment. The structures of the songs are different as well; build-ups are not so overt. Everything is more subtle, but this creates a depth like a black hole that sucks you in and doesn't let go. There is more variety in the sounds that they use (not as if the sounds they use weren't always varied . Overall this album is a happier album (I guess that is why some people call it cheesey). For me the composition is genious and the atmosphere is magical; the sound is just alive in this album! It is definitely a good listening album (although good for dancing too!). Overall, for me it is a more mature album and reresents an evolution of the genious that is INFECTED MUSHROOM. Don't compare it to the first 2 albums and don't have any preconceptions or expectations when you first listen to it and the magic and power of this album will open up to you. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

To Bugbread: I know what you mean. It seems like the stuff that so many people say is just good "headphone music" is the stuff that makes me want to dance the most. For me it is largely about the structure of the music; melodies, harmonies, rythms and the way these are organized and the way they progress and build that sends me off dancing like a madman. A stomping beat by itself isn't nearly as powerful for me. Its the way a whole bunch of elements come together in a perfect groove that really gets me moving. I think Infected Mushroom is one of the groups that get my butt moving the most but it is also some of my favorite listening music.

[Guest stringtheory]

To Bugbread and Peaceful Warriorr:

 

I get what you guys are saying. It makes sense to me. The complexity of the music draws you in! It just pulls you in to itself, and in a sense you lose yourself in it. Simple, dance stompin music doesn't do that. It just feels boring. I am sitting there listening and thinking, damn, is this it ? Its the complexity, the subtlety, the thought behind the music that draws me. Certain albums do that for me. IM:The Gathering, X-Dream:We Created My Own Happiness, anything by Hallucinogen and Shpongle. Dark Soho:Sunspot, These albums are so unique, and intelligent, they fascinate me in the same ways that groups like Tool and Pink Floyd do.