moni Posted July 30, 2005 Author Share Posted July 30, 2005 Beatless ambient? Well ambient is supposed to have no beat you know. 305184[/snapback] everybody understands what i ment by "beatless ambient". you don't need to tell me what is "supposed". especially with all the variety of combinations used in music today, "supposed" is kinda fading away in music production. ok, i have read all your posts. usually, when i get home in the evening, after a lame day of work and stress, sometimes i switch on the computer, check online stuff and friends. then do stuff around in the house, but music is playing in the background all the time. no matter how stressed i am, i never listen to chillout or ambient music in order to relax. i find my energy in psytrance (usually melodic stuff, or stuff that i consider "smart" psy), in discovering new sounds, in finding more about psy music. i guess i relax in other ways. i'll relax when i sleep. i'll sleep when i'm dead. i'll die when i'm done. nevertheless, i will check some albums recommendations from you guys. that's valuable info. thanks. hopefully i will manage to really pay attention to beatless ambient and feel it. till then, long live the beats! well, that includes rythm too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETOX Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Moni seems like you are a party animal with all those beats around you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insejn Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 personally i am not much into beatless ambient. i find it too simple for the brain, easy to produce, boring, sometimes longish and annoying. maybe i just don't get it? so here are my questions: why do you like it? do you like it when sober or when stoned or both? so please, feel free to praise beatless ambient, describe it with your own words, tell me what effects it has on you (body and brain), maybe even give me your favourite beatless ambient tune. 304838[/snapback] I'm not a big fan of it either. I only like Zvuki's ambient so far. It's perfect to put on when you want to take a nap or have a hangover Try to get Zvuki Belovodya's album. I think you know where to get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Le Lotus Bleu Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Generally (not all) ambient tunes got some rythmic part (quite experimental most of time though), take Biosphere-Novelty Waves as example , it has even been selected as soundtrack for a jean tv advertising 10 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted July 30, 2005 Author Share Posted July 30, 2005 Moni seems like you are a party animal with all those beats around you. 305645[/snapback] heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el brujo Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 beatless ambient is good for sometimes it goes to the background and fills up the space without you recognizing it sometimes you forget that it is playing and then a little change happens and you understand that your brain was actually keeping track my favourite beatless ambients sonic mandalas and most brian eno works biosphere and i prefer it sober when working sometimes, writing or drawing and helped me find a way out of some heavy trips so i think both states of mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosku Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I love "beatless ambient" more than "ambient with beats". Just because it's so relaxing. You can really travel to places in your mind when listening to well made ambient. That is if you concentrate on the music. On the other hand it can be only backround music, ambience, like Brian Eno "designed" it to. Some albums I like: Wabi (it's not completely beatless but it can be counted in here) Robert Rich & Brian Lustmord - Stalker (of course) Dystopia - The Second Dawn Siniaalto - Siniaalto Temps Perdu? - Terra Incognita Vidna Obmana - The Spiritual Bonding everything by Biosphere And from the older times: Klaus Schulze - Mirage Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETOX Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Phaedra and Mirage are both classic albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 personally i am not much into beatless ambient. i find it too simple for the brain, easy to produce, boring, sometimes longish and annoying. maybe i just don't get it? so here are my questions: why do you like it? do you like it when sober or when stoned or both? so please, feel free to praise beatless ambient, describe it with your own words, tell me what effects it has on you (body and brain), maybe even give me your favourite beatless ambient tune. You probably "just don't get it" as you say it. Seriously. My favourite tune - well ,this is already beyond favourite as this tune is so magical I find it totally impossible to put my feelings to words as I heard this first and still I can feel this wonderful magical feeling when hearing it - is SMIRI SE by Matenda and that's actually nothing other than beatless ambient for it has not a single kick nor a single bassline bit. Just floating. Yes, that's it ... the beatlessness makes it sound floating, like if I was flying or if there was energy flowing ... gently, steadily flowing flowing, no harsh breaks or any beat, nothing, just the flow of energy, just this great flow of energy which will forever go on and on ... the cycle of life actually ... and ... well, I'm going too far already... You just don't get it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 true beatless ambient isn't my cup of tea either... to boring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Beatless Psy Ambient kick ass! It's the perfect kind of ambient to relax and travel. You juct close your eyes and go to another dimensions BTW my 3 fav beatless ambient tracks: FSOL-Domain LOS-Slime Into The Sound Optic Eye-Anacoluthon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 You probably "just don't get it" as you say it. Seriously. My favourite tune - well ,this is already beyond favourite as this tune is so magical I find it totally impossible to put my feelings to words as I heard this first and still I can feel this wonderful magical feeling when hearing it - is SMIRI SE by Matenda and that's actually nothing other than beatless ambient for it has not a single kick nor a single bassline bit. Just floating. Yes, that's it ... the beatlessness makes it sound floating, like if I was flying or if there was energy flowing ... gently, steadily flowing flowing, no harsh breaks or any beat, nothing, just the flow of energy, just this great flow of energy which will forever go on and on ... the cycle of life actually ... and ... well, I'm going too far already... You just don't get it... 308524[/snapback] let's say beatless ambient just doesn't make me float so ye, i probably just don't get it anyway, i will check some of the tracks people put here, and read their posts again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuser Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 i think beatless ambient is for patient people only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosku Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 i think beatless ambient is for patient people only 309624[/snapback] That's true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 and you must also be a bit obsessed with sounds in general... most people can only listen to music with clear rhythms and melodies ambient is about sound and atmosphere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amphiton Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 For a long-long time I couldn't chill properly with music that had (too) many beats in it. As for ambient I can say that I grew up with IDM-like ambient: Aphex Twin, Autechre, BoC, Brian Eno, Steve Roach and so on. Ambient (and most chill) has to be beatless in the first place, imo. I could not stand duby tunes for more then 5 minutes Just not so long ago I began to understand (like) dub and all that stuff, but still, after partys or if I'm very tired I put on floating sounds without these agressive beats saying boom boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 anyway, i will check some of the tracks people put here, and read their posts again. would be cool ... I'd really be interested in what you would think of Smiri Se for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyman604 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 coil - black light district Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I'm sure I mentioned these a couple of times Tetsu Inoue - Chill in Chill out Tetsu Inoue - Ring of Power not entirely beatless and the tunes take time to develop but my god, it's so good and beautiful... how can anyone not like this, it's impossible just relax and LISTEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 how about this? www.timtrack.se/music/beatless.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 hi tim how nice to see you here i hope you'll like it *checking that song* Edit: you know i like your music, but this track doesn't seem to beat 'ambient with beats' .. nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 It's not ment to "beat" anything, its just ment to exist. It's actually just a feeling that i wanted to express, and when i saw this topic "beatless ambient" i got the idea how to express it without really trying. But is this "ambient" anyway? I dont know. So, to compair different styles aint really healthy. One should listen to something and accept it for what it is. You might like something else better because it creates specific feelings within you. Most often the song creates the feeling, and, well, i dont really find that enjoyable. I could call that a "commercial" song because it is made for you to like it (i'm just speaking in "you" therme, this could be anyone ofcours) and not for it to like you. If on the other hand the song actually likes you, then the feelings that emerge are your own. But most people perfere to have songs made for them, because our brain is full of so many other issues so if it can, it lets things be done for us, even something as important as our own feelings. It's just easier. Back to the point. Adding beats to a track can make it very easy to listen to. Most often we humans have this supressed stress that we are trying to deal with subconscious. Beats are often a good therapy for this stress. We dont really think of the beat, its just a background, but it fits in to the stress and i belive that they work on the same "wavelenght". So, to give you a new perspective of beatless music overall, try to think of it as this: This is probably made under a minimum level of stress. When you listen to it, try to relate to the creators feelings. Automatic (you probably wont even notice it) these feelings will find its relation to your own experiences and start creating real actuall feelings that comes from inside you. Fancy hard music with catchy melodies are perfect for a party when you just want to drink and have a good time, but its not real. It's an illusion created by ourselves out of our "idea" of having a good time. So, we are even pressured to have a good time, and its all under stress. Adrennalin for example is related to habing a good time because it creates a sort of temporary rush that we enjoy. All in all, catcy party music is a good party drug. But i think that in our every-day-life we should try to relax more and look more into ourselves insdead of trying to hide behind all these beats. Save these kicks untill the next party, that will make the effect of them even greater. I know that it can be hard to just sit down, close your eyes and listen to some straight tone going on for 10 minutes only variating by shifting in room/reverb effects, but if you manage to let the stress go you will find that it's not really about the music, it's about yourself. Just chill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Shit, did that even make sense? Someone wake me upp please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Journey Man Project Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Beatless ambient is pretty simple in what it exists for... ambeint in general seems to be a more emotional or ezperimental approach to electronic or world music. Beatless ambient takes this one step further by taking away any rhythmn and leaving it up to the mid of the listener to drift with what is often considered the background "music" in a track. I've spokent o a few people who make ambient and they all say it is a shitload harder to make beatless ambient, as you do not have a beat or groove to work with, you have to focus your mind on making the trip last loger and be more detailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Shit, did that even make sense? Someone wake me upp please... 310980[/snapback] of course it makes sense. i agree with you. different people perceive music different. it's all about different brain, different mentality, different spirit, different energy, and why not, different level of stress. that's why i made this thread. so i can make people speak about how they perceive music. and i chose beatless ambient, as it is a pretty much unknown ground for me (mostly for the reasons i stated when i started this thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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