Frontier Psychiatrist Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 When my friends get sick i turn to euthanasia. In other words i put some Rock, Chill, IDM or whatever. No worries, there's always good music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I understand you Prosect, but it seems that this LOGICAL PROGRESSION how they call it turned out to be LOGICAL REGRESSION... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 because of the pirating. 320633[/snapback] If you ever released a cd would you upload it for us to download? or would you say go buy it? answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I saw a study just this week that most people pirating stuff are the ones that go and spend their money buying records. Thats why big record companies are now after the blank cd makers 320662[/snapback] Interesting... If you ever released a cd would you upload it for us to download? or would you say go buy it? answer. 320766[/snapback] I'd naturally say go buy it. All of my efforts go in to my music production (physical, mental) - obviously I'd appreciate something in return. Of course I don't expect everyone to like my music, but if everyone pirated it what would be the point of writing it? It would be a waste of time, energy, and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 no it wouldnt. this way the music would spread and everybody would listen... that's the point of making it in the first place eh? anywayz, i will pirate your cd if it gets released ;p ;p ;p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 no it wouldnt. this way the music would spread and everybody would listen... that's the point of making it in the first place eh? anywayz, i will pirate your cd if it gets released 320831[/snapback] Yes the point of it is for people to hear it. But I doubt that I would make another CD if I got nothing in return for the first one. Would you? I can't stop you pirating. Just if I can't get any money from my music, no more music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 you materialistic bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 you materialistic bastard. 320839[/snapback] It costs money for what I love doing. That's how it works. I have to make a living somehow. It costs money for practically every aspect of your life. Materialism is built into society. Therefore I need money to do what I love doing. Money can be gained by selling one's own resources to an individual. You wouldn't work for free now would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 my point is you should see it as a job, rather than music. you could make a living somehow else. to me, making music isnt like selling potatoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 It shouldn't be made FOR getting money, but if what you write comes from the heart then I don't see why you can't earn a little extra for sharing your talent with others. If I got no recognition/earnings for my music what would be the point in sharing with others if it cost me to make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Buddha Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 man thats beautiful , i can even feel your sadness from here ... awesome piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 It shouldn't be made FOR getting money, but if what you write comes from the heart then I don't see why you can't earn a little extra for sharing your talent with others. If I got no recognition/earnings for my music what would be the point in sharing with others if it cost me to make it? 320853[/snapback] you will get recognition.... especially if you arent that commercial...believe me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaib Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 sorry, but i agree with the negativeness about today's releases.... for instance, yesterday i received my latest order of cd's and first i listen to wizzy noise: the crazy melodies which makers my head spin 360 degrees, then i listen at klusters: the wacky noises make me bump up and down on my chair like a duracell bunny, then i listened psychiatric hospital ahead!: i almost had to be taken to a real hospital, and now i'm listening at multiple personalities: my neck-muscles are really starting to hurt now if anything there's lots more variation in psy-releases than there ever has been, you got everything these days: from charming old-skool goa to futuristic dark-psy to dreamy progressive and easy-to-digest fullon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 It shouldn't be made FOR getting money, but if what you write comes from the heart then I don't see why you can't earn a little extra for sharing your talent with others. If I got no recognition/earnings for my music what would be the point in sharing with others if it cost me to make it? 320853[/snapback] true, you spend money to make that music and want that money back... off course... or more money to buy better equipment to create a next release that could be better... off cours shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 The whole piracy issue is a bit of a philosophical conundrum. People living in modern societies obviously need money to survive comfortably, but it is absurd to think that an artist or label whose motivation is financial will produce the best and most innovative output that they are capable of. The purest artistic expression comes from passion, not from a need to make ends meet. True art is created for arts sake, not for getting rich and laid. That being said though, I do believe that independent artists and labels need and deserve our support when it comes to buying music that we enjoy and appreciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj mylo Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Money. That's what this scene is focussing on right now. People are trying to make a living out of psy-trance, before people were focussing on art and fun. The real money is being made at events/shows, and artists are always on the road. The result is low quality/fast produced "laptop music". There is not enough time spent in the studio. But the good news is that there is still quality out there. You just have to sift through the crap to get to the goodness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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