Guest Kris Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 "Hallucinogen's Lone Derranger ruined Psy Trance for me. Nothing gets that close to perfection since it was released." awww... there's no perfect. every piece is created by imperfect human mind, like you and me. Don't over-romanticize, it's just Simon, others do it their way and might just be as good or better in what they do. 363899[/snapback] exactly. Simon is good at what he does but that does not mean he is good at something else. We all have our own creative strenghts (well some dont = copy and paste) and we develope a certain skill and our way of doing things but if we were put to do something totally different we might fail BIG TIME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Wait, stay a while, have fun with it. Is anyone taking this seriously? Don't. Here, let's bring Conan the Psybrarian back: Look at this guy - he looks so happy! -> 363586[/snapback] OMG, that is the funniest thing i have seen all week. Top stuff dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajek Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 No, in fact he looks dead serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepton Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 1)no, good mixing is a matter of technique, which as everything technical, it can be learned with practice. 2)I guess the only way to measure the success of a dj, is how many people show to listen/ dance. 363473[/snapback] 1)indeed and because it is just a matter of practice every dj is obliged to practice till they can beatmatch... If one is too lazy to practice than this person doesn't deserve it to play on parties because all you have to do is practice a few months - 1 year ..... I don't ask dj's to mix with 3 decks and do all kinds of trick (this is offcourse nice to hear and a surplus...) but all I ask is don't fuck up the mix ..... 2)also not true in that case you can say that all full on dj's are the best because they always have the largest crowd.... this not because they have the best dj's but only because full on is the most accessible gerne within psytrance (and btw the most easiest music to mix)...... sorry for the endless discussion ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Nord Leads. Seriously: before Clavia came along, there was no 'the goa synth'. Maybe the SH101 came close. But artists used unconventional gear (modular, analog, wavetable...) and had their own kind of studio setup. Now everyone uses the same damn thing (Nords 2, 3, or Rack). How much can you innovate under those conditions? Come on... it's a good synth, but not THAT good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted October 23, 2005 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 You can count Virus as well. But artists that use presets only are lame indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritual om Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 OMG, that is the funniest thing i have seen all week. Top stuff dude. 363915[/snapback] loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychonaut Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 a lot of people mention Astrix and Skazi ... ... but what really kills psytrance is INFECTED MUSHROOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yeah, but dam10n's review puts them in their place! Infected Mushroom Stretched EP YoYo / BNE (Israel) Bit of an oddity this one. My guess is you have already made up your mind whether a four-track EP by Infected Mushroom is something you really need. The only saving grace here is that at four tracks, it took hardly any time to review, though it probably took even less time than that to compile. Let the fun commence: The Live remake of Shakawkaw is something of a joke, taking no less than five and a half minutes to drop into something resembling trance, and when it does, it sounds like it’s being sung by the assembled cast of Fraggle Rock. The “orchestral” buildup sections move just like a musical, straight out of Lloyd Webber, and I for one would rather hear Michael Ball break into “love, love changes everything, etc” while having a complete set of regulation-size snooker balls inserted into my urethra. We then get track 10 from IM The Supervisor, Stretched which, as I may have remarked when reviewing the album (though frankly, I couldn’t care less whether I did or not), has the dubious honour of being a piece of music that is simultaneously interesting and incredibly, erotically, boring beyond belief. Yes folks, buy now what you bought last year – pick up a Tshirt on your way out. And a sticker for 50p. Timelock’s remix of Cities Of The Future is immeasurably better than the original, but still has those FUCKING vocals and a keychange from hell right at the end. Finally The Beauty & The Beat, tacked on at the end with grace and underproduced aplomb, yes folks you are allowed to pay to get an extra track, that was made available on Infected’s website months ago as a free download. And just as you might expect from an unreleased, cutting-room-floor trance tune, it’s undernourished, unfinished Infected-by-prinary-numbers, and almost completely devoid of any feeling, emotion, intelligence or direction. I mean, it doesn’t even have a fucking ending. Someone here is taking the piss – either the “boys” themselves or the cynical Geffen-emulators that run this label. I cannot imagine a CD release that is more superfluous. It is an insult to the sweatshop workers that assembled it, to the molecules of plastic that form the surface of the CD, and to the ones and zeroes of binary that make up this placid, frothy excuse for a CD. Whether it’s Infected or the label that are calling the shots here, I believe I speak for a certain majority here when I ask you squarely to f**k the f**k off you f**king f**kbunch of f**king f**ks. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 a lot of people mention Astrix and Skazi ... ... but what really kills psytrance is INFECTED MUSHROOM. 365152[/snapback] There's a whole list of bands and artists that deserve the "you ruined psy" diploma. I wont list it here though. I'll just risk being called various names from especially members of the killarghhhh tribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 There's a whole list of bands and artists that deserve the "you ruined psy" diploma. I wont list it here though. I'll just risk being called various names from especially members of the killarghhhh tribe. 365488[/snapback] just the most apparent Astrix Skazi & Friends Gms/1200 Mics Infected Mushroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goababa Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 definitely the full on BS!@# the death of true hypnotic music...the music which made u move without traveling....which made u fly without drugging urself altho that helps basically psytrance dropped off the real hypnotic part of it....and the melodies which used 2 take u high n low....giving u a sense to wonder...the mystery of life itself!?@ shaman or a druid i don't kno.....but bak in 94-97 the music just was alien technology music still respect 2 all artists just that pls stop making bullshit n help our feeble minds with some serious juice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 No one fucks with the psytrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugpuggler Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 the one thing that kinda ruins psytrance for me, is that the labels are so stupid that they dont think its a big deal that SO many old classics are impossible to get.. also, the death of shpongle ruined psy ALOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 it didn't yet, but i can definitely see a topic like this one ruining psytrance for more than one person. 363574[/snapback] Not exactly ruining it but I do get the creeps when I read some replies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 the "full-on bassline" for sure. makes me wanna puke every time. and it seems to appear in every god damn psy track these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyman604 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 my ears... ive heard to much, it can just never hit the same as the early listenings, pretty much like any drug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I don't share those visions that fullon formule destroyed the psy trance scéne... it kept it alive... it's evolution... it won't be that way forever... it's a fase we are going through... suntrip is releasing good stuff... there is super progresssive coming out lately... some fullon is actually very good, mostly tracks not albums but still... I like the fact that goa has many production although there is a lot of shit, between that shit there is good music too... so just fucking find it and if you don't, just ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Journey Man Project Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Growing up and realising that thre is much more to life than this... now I listen to th emusic at home/in car but never go out ot parties... way to much effort... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I don't share those visions that fullon formule destroyed the psy trance scéne... it kept it alive... it's evolution... it won't be that way forever... it's a fase we are going through... suntrip is releasing good stuff... there is super progresssive coming out lately... some fullon is actually very good, mostly tracks not albums but still... I like the fact that goa has many production although there is a lot of shit, between that shit there is good music too... so just fucking find it and if you don't, just ask 369028[/snapback] Very wise words, I absolutely agree with you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I feel what ruined psy-trance is the popularity it gained at the turn of the millenium. During the 90's psy-trance was, in essence, an underground scene where the individuals creating the music and organising the raves and parties were passionate people who believed in and felt strongly about what they were doing. Likewise fans of psy-trance believed fully in the whole lifetsyle and philosophy the scene created. It was a time when the artists created music they themselves wanted to listen to, a time when they created new and exciting music. As psy-trance became more popular it attracted more fans and subsequently more 'artists' tried their hand at producing the music. However too few of the new artists seem passionate about the music and consequently care little for creativity. They can release a sub-standard album knowing full well it will sell enough copies to make it worth their while because many of the new fans buy it on hype or advertising alone, or buy it simply because they are unfamiliar with innovative and pure psy-trance. Ultimately psy-trance fans should try to be a little more more discerning and avoid swimming in the ever deepening sea of wank psy-trance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Fortunately, nothing destroyed it for me - it's too sad to let be destroyed by others what you loved. Still, I miss this certain depth and feeling ('soul') in todays music, but the people still doing creative and actually 'psychedelic' music are saving it everytime they created something new. For example the fantastic productions coming from Suntrip & -dance Records lately. The only reason for it to be destroyed parly for me, is myself. Although I'm still very young, I'm not as young as I used to be anymore. I'm not into music that much as I used to...I've got problems myself coming up with new creative tracks, the whole thing is entiring me, somehow. But these are my problems, not induced by Skazi, or Full-On Hysteria or what ever (although those may be quite a reason, too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Evil killrgh monkeys with doing the Kali shiva ritual dancing knives on corpes of the undead walker during night of the thousand mega weird matrix sounds flying on the jet plane from another reality ruined psytrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Evil killrgh monkeys with doing the Kali shiva ritual dancing knives on corpes of the undead walker during night of the thousand mega weird matrix sounds flying on the jet plane from another reality ruined psytrance. 370838[/snapback] so do people get paid to write promo material like that? or they gather inspiration from the opium dens and hope for the best ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyTheSquid Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Well, I can talk about what ruined my forum reading experience... Cinos's asinine posting behaviour, always arguing about trivial items. Hardly read anymore, used to lurk here every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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