Guest kingdok Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Every electronic act I've seen "live" has been, much to my disappointment, canned/stripped recordings of studio tracks. Yeah, it's cool to say you got to "see" this band or that band, but at the end of the evening, you may as well have had some local DJ play their records instead. To me, the best part is getting to meet/talk with the producers whenever possible, and there's always the chance they'll play something they haven't released yet...but isn't that what dubplates are for? So...which psy guys give a good live PA? Koxbox, my fav act, weren't nearly as cool as I thought they'd be at a party. Who improvises? Who includes live instruments? Juno Reactor is the only name that comes to mind. Is it fun to see someone wailing on a guitar, Ozric-style? No one sings on these tracks, typically, but is it an element that works in a live situation? Bottom line : live acts jack up ticket prices. I'm comfortable being part of a faceless scene. Who's got a different view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 essentially i dont care who is playing at a party if the music is good... unfortunatly, i find good music at parties to be hard to find, so i have to start paying attention to 'names that deliver'. i wish it weren't that way... and i generally agree about your assessment of live acts. juno reactor was very impressive but many of the other acts i've seen were canned/point-and-click performances not worthy of the ticket price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mindbender Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Squaremeat does real live lives, often with visiting artists, like flute, saxophone, trumpet or other players, or some other electronic music people. But they aren't alone. It depends on the degree of liveness you want... But I also am often dissapointed at "live" acts merely playing pre-recorded stuff. If it's a new version, it's ok, but if it's the same as the released... Not good. Lauri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bugbread Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 My draw for live acts isn't the "liveness", so it doesn't bother me. That is to say, I go to Hallucinogen lives NOT because it's gonna be live and interactive, but because I can listen to an hour and a half of Hallucinogen tunes. I've never seen a DJ who plays an hour and a half of the same artist. (Heck, here at psynews people are critical if someone plays two songs by the same artist back to back in a mix). Plus, if it's a live by an act I know and like, I know I'll like the music. If, for example, Duvdev is going to play a DJ set, I don't know if it'll be good or bad, and it's a gamble. He might play pure sh*t. Even if you know the DJ, their tastes may change (old Tsuyoshi vs new Tsuyoshi). But if it says Infected Mushroom live set on the fliers, I know that I'll like pretty much every track, because I like pretty much every IM track. Just randomly off topic, but Loopus in Fabula played the LEAST interactive, live set I have EVER seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goa tacks Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 There is some live act doing real live set. (not just playing their computer progrums or DAT) I recomend live show of Infected Mushroom (these two guys play keybord like Nord Lead and Korg playing the sound effects and melodies.) Medicine Drum (Chris Decker plays actual percussions, and Irina singss and perform, Kenji Williams play violine.... quite impressive show.) S.U.N. Project (no need for explanation) Juno Reactor (already mentioned above) G.M.S. (much like Infected... quite impressive.) Mino (playing drums) A.B. Didgeridoo (He plays Didge and drums together with effector... amazing performance.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goa tacks Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 There is some live act doing real live set. (not just playing their computer progrums or DAT) I recomend live show of Infected Mushroom (these two guys play keybord like Nord Lead and Korg playing the sound effects and melodies.) Medicine Drum (Chris Decker plays actual percussions, and Irina singss and perform, Kenji Williams play violine.... quite impressive show.) S.U.N. Project (no need for explanation) Juno Reactor (already mentioned above) GMS(much like Infected... quite impressive.) Mino (playing drums) A.B. Didgeridoo (He plays Didge and drums together with effector... amazing performance.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ks Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 in addition to the ones mentioned above... i think logic bomb plays quite a good live, pressing their synths ewtc... son kite plays a good live act as well, specially due to their clarity.. they use a mackie mixer when playing live... my biggest problem with live acts, is that when i get pissed off at the style of music being played... i get annoyed, like son kite plays the same minimal style for an entire set,.. so after a while i go find a corner and chill until it is over.. no doubting his sound engineering skills though... while when it comes to a good dj, then one is on a journey.. good djs like dimitri, mahasuka, jorg, goa gil etc., build theiur sets very well.. mixing in driving minimal trance, good deep progressive sounds, full on, melodic, etc... my favorite experiences at party's are almost always outdoor at the time of sunrise with a dj spinning.. not a live act... but thats my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 When people say live do they mean live or playback? :-) To my knowledge not many (if any) bands do actually play live at all. Yes maybe semi-live but I haven't meet one band that play real live. It's quite impossible with all the complex sequences, drums and effect going on in the music. So when you list all the bands above as "live" bands I must protest :-)) To plug a A-DAT or a harddisk recording system, a drumkit and some overdub musicians to a live PA and mixer is not the same as playing live. In my book it's a semi-live act with some real playing and a lot of playback. But that does not make the music less good. It's just not "live". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ananda Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 I agree with mister elysium project ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest preus Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 EP well i´ve seen Etnoscope LIVE a couple of times, they are very much alive, they play bongos and digeridoos on stage, not thats live Haldolium i´ve seen to, they are not that live but one of the guys is banging on a drum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mr peculiar Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 A.B didgeredoo is definatly live no doubt about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Yes a didge is live of course but for me a "true" live set is when all musicians play an instrument on stage - not pushing some buttons and squeeking some knops :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D-Dave Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Personally I dont get it, I think the whole idea to stop the party for a live act is pretty bad. The music was never made with the intention it should be played on a stage, its supposed to be a continous flow of music selected by DJs. Of course it can be fun if there are artists there playing their music, but it shouldnt be like a silly rock concert, IMHO it should be more like they play a mixed set, perhaps blended with other music as well, ie a DJ-set... And of course no electronic band can play their music live. Its just a remnant of the ancient 20th century that music should be played live... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hoffy Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 Green Nuns of the Revolution did a wicked "live" set- guitars and bongos. I'm sure they would have did some tweaking live too To me, the most important thing about seeing a live act is that the songs they play are different to their recordings- Astral Projection, when i saw them, may as well have played the CD's- this also applies to Logic Bomb when they played and quite a few other acts. Green Nuns live did quite a different version of Atomic Armadillo, the end of their set, and it was fantastic. I'm sure their are other acts i have seen who have pulled out different versions of their tracks "live", but i can't quite remember them now =) Looking quite forward to seeing Juno Reactor this november... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guru sigma Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 Definitely, there's always some playback and a coupla sounds made live. I even started to believe that some of the artists FAKE their live act. I've seen two guys randomly pressing keys on a synth not producing any difference in sound. And a very well-hidden (maybe not so well since I saw it) CD-player. Live acts are an excuse to charge more money at the entrance. Although, it's always nice to meet the guys, or at least see what they look like. LOL... if they looked like they sounded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benny K Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 Sun Project is also definately live. Watching them perform is more like going down to a pub to watch a band play than a quality psy act. They are great to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WoodWormateriX Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 i like hux flux he's so in about what he do, so he look fun stompin hes feets and bangin hes head like a maniac, u end up like he do after a time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 once i saw syncro playing completely live. to real freaks it was great but most of the people where pissed of by the much simpler sounds. maybe sad but true: all the work (or money to set up a compete recording studio on stage) is useless to satisfy an audience. just 2% care about if it´s live or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nefuratus Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 DARK SOHO..!!!!! Boxer & Rizo on Electric Guitars, Zaef twisting knobs and turning dials..... when they plive live on stage... LIVE is what is happening... you can stand right there and see it...! Also, before now DEVIANT SPECIES have played a live set with Santos De Castro playing live midi percussion and Paul Wright again twisiting up the signals on the Nord Lead..!!.. .....hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest a Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 mindfield do a great live pa, set of decks mixer few synths etc.. Great to hear tunes you like, been played and tweaked by the creators.. also shakta did a great pa! top night... seen allot of other acts, (no dats) always the best in my mind.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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