Guest MD Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 ... are jew of origin? I'm not trying to start a war or anything, I was just wondering since more than 50% psy artists are Israelis, how many are in the audience? And how many of these are amateur psy artists? Once again, if anyone thinks of starting some racist remarks war here FORGET IT!!! Let's start with me: of all I know , I don't think I have any jewish roots... Quote
DeathPosture Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 Ehh.... I'm not jew... Infact I don't believe in anything but myself... Infact you might call me an atheist... Though I acknowledge that fact, that religion has a major part in some peoples lifes... And if that's what they need to have a happy life, then I have no problem with that... DeathPosture Quote
Guest kriz Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 this is off-topic if ya ask me.. and does it matter ?? I surely dont care where people come from or what their belives are .. as long as they are open minded DeathPosture: Infinity lies within (yourself). Quote
Guest ~Jonezz~ Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 I think that everyone should create their own "religion".. trying to figure out "what it´s all about" by yourself.. and I think bible for example is very interesting book and written by some wise mens but thought that it´s the absolute truth is kind of naive IMO.. And I do believe that christ really did exist, but that he had some kind of "magical powers.." gimme a brake.. Think he was just wise man with BIG heart and a lot of knowledge about life.. and all those stories about him, like how he made the blind man to see again, should be read as.. err.. metaphoras.. like he didn´t really make him see again.. just gave new point of wiews to this poor man who maybe had lost his love to life.. and ability to see the good things in life.. Hmm.. hope that someone understands what im trying to say.. And this was MY opinion.. like Deathposture said: "And if that's what they need to have a happy life, then I have no problem with that... " Quote
Guest JiM Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 Fukk all religions!!! - Have your own thoughts... Quote
Guest MD Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 Wasn't talking about religion, it was about ethnic origin... And IMO this IS a general topic since I want to have a general idea of the psy audience! and again I say, I'm not looking to provoke anyone or start a war, just general interest... Quote
Tatsu Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 i have it with death posture in this topic. if people like it then they should have it but i don't believe in anything religious. and as much as i know i don't have any jewish roots btw. Quote
Guest Syre Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 Religion is pointless and it sucks. Quote
Guest Protex Midget Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 I am jewish (i'm from israel) and i am no way religious. infact most people in Israel (70%) are not religious Quote
Guest MD Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 Damn it, when did I say anything about religion here??? I'm talking about ETHNIC ORIGIN!!!!! that's all... we already talked about the religion thing 100s of times before, so I already know what your points of views on religion are, no need to state them again Quote
Guest Slidingtrancer Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 I believe in myself, does that make me religious. Well I'm not into banking, so I can't be a Jew...? Quote
Guest phaeton Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 just wondering, what is the point of this thread? do you really care about what ethnic origin one has, or were you just really bored? i really don't see the point .. Quote
Guest Slidingtrancer Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 Dieznyik, I study history. Around 1600 the Jews in Europe were most of all bankers up till around 1940 and you know the rest. That's in simple what happened. Just like the Jezuits were famous in their days for solving European problems. Phaeton, he wants to know the correlation between being a jew and making good music ? Do you need to be a practising Jew to make good stuff... :? * yes its irrelevant* Quote
Guest tom Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 ethnicity is increasingly a social construct rather than a biological reality.... Quote
Guest pesito Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 ............... cant believe it : ) Quote
Guest MD Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 phaeton: the relasionship I wanted to see was since there are more than 50% jew psy artists out there what was the proportion of the audience?? Why can't I get a simple answer to a simple question?? and Slidingtrancer: I thought that they were all jewel makers, hence the name "jew"... you sure about this banking stuff? I know there is a famous book stating that they are at the origin of capitalism, but it's the first time I hear that they were all bankers... Maybe I just lack some general culture here. Anyway, if I could get a normal answer to my initial question without all the philospohy about religion I would be greatefull 8-D Quote
Guest tequila Posted November 22, 2001 Posted November 22, 2001 by the way, the origins of capitalism come from protestants, not jews. Quote
Guest Eshanti Brahman Posted November 23, 2001 Posted November 23, 2001 Guys guys! MD asked a simple question and instead of answering,people are bashing religion/belief and starting to act like Homer the great philosopher. Why should we always start to analyze everything that is being questioned? But I agree that the topic should have been in the "Off-topic category" Peace. Quote
Guest MD Posted November 23, 2001 Posted November 23, 2001 tequila: yes, one book states that it was the protestants, but another states it was the jews. In fact, the Hitler and the Nazis based themselves on that book to say that the whole economic crisis in the late 1920s and early 1930s was due to them and this is shown as a classical case of the perversion of a harmless idea. I studied all this once, but now it's like ages ago and I don't remember the name of the books and authors. Maybe Slidingtrancer could shed some light here. ... anyway, the way this is turning, this is becoming an off-topic post. Mike D, if you want to delete this, feel freely to do so. I kinda knew this topic would backfire on me... Quote
Guest phaeton Posted November 23, 2001 Posted November 23, 2001 moondancer ... i'm sure there are a lot of jewish psytrance artists, but i refuse to believe that more than 50 % of all psytrance is being made by jews Quote
Guest tequila Posted November 23, 2001 Posted November 23, 2001 MD: Max Weber wrote a book about the link between the origins of capitalism and predestination, don't know the title in english, sorry. concerning the other book you're talking about, could give me the title if you find it back please? Quote
Strumpling Posted November 23, 2001 Posted November 23, 2001 I don't follow any religion, but I am one of the "many people here..." so count me too! P.S. Just kuz i got no religion, doesn't mean i hate it. back off. i have no problem with people "of faith," so don't get your panties all bunched up over this -=- Matt/Strumpling Quote
Guest Moo Posted November 23, 2001 Posted November 23, 2001 tequila: I think it was Werner Sombart, but I'm not sure... Quote
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