Guest Pswe Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Logic Bomb - Earth Orbit Very dancable, uplifting & happy without beeing cheezy, dreamy & trancy without too many klichées. And one special killer melody ... GOOSE BUMPS ALL OVER ME =) Among all the shitty releases from ALL labels today (everything sounds the same and everyone copies).. there are still some killers coming out... Thank you Logic Bomb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hiq Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Yes, I agree... I hate all the f*cking amateur-homemade-FruityLoops-shit released on most labels nowadays... Simple stupid tracks with a bassline and some FX with reverb/delay + a sliced drumloop.. ANYONE can make tracks like that! Sure, it's a good thing that wannabees/amateurs can start to make music also (everyone can nowadays with pirated software): BUT WHY THE FUCK ARE LABELS RELEASING THAT SHIT?!?! ... Seems like this scene is lost in bad music... Originality seems like a bad thing according to all the releases the past years.. Everyone(!) tries to copy the big names (X-Dream/The Delta/Spirallianz, Son Kite, Infected Mushroom, Wizzy Noise etc). Most amatuers can't even copy those and end up with some simple-a** tune, even my 12-year-old brother can make in a few hours in FruityLoops (yes, true!).. Blweh... good thing mp3's are so easy to get nowadays, I dont have to buy the shit before I listen... I find it quite strange that labels wanna go so low, maybe one good song in a compilation, rest is pure shit... We need change!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hiq Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 I forgot to say one thing pretty funny: I have friend who makes music... Just to prove how easy it is to release something today on any label he (i wont mention the artistname) made a tune in FruityLoops in three(!) hours and then sent it to a big, well-known, label that has been around since the middle-90's... AND he got it released on a well-known compilation (this happended just some month ago).. He then told me he's changing his artistname and will not release anything more on any "goa/psy/trance"-label.. Maybe he is overreacting, but he's got a point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 you might think that now but go back a few years and there was also plenty of mediocre middle-of-the-road releases and me-too songs... the style has just changed a bit so now you get a lot of this "hard psytrance" garbage that doesnt seem like there was much thought put into it... but i maintain little has differed over the years - you still have to skim the whole scene for the %25 that is really good and for a label to be big does not mean high quality. try checking out the smaller labels who aren't afraid to release something different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sekoya Eco6Tem FR Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Hi Trancers ! just for information Xdream = The Delta ... most of trance artist have different name project . For my mind there's actually too many hardpsytrance stuffs without real vibes in france ... its minimal and the mastering is maximal ;p Every traks sounds good with a good mastering ... Hiq said : everyone tries to copy the big names .... some or just influenced just visit us www.trancers.org ... ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest go@lex Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 hey hiq, if you can do anything whith fruity loops (a very great software except the sequencer) but in 3 hours, it never be great.... i work a lot on a song and it takes one or two days to finish it. the good transe can be creat whith anything, but whith a lot of job! alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heLa Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 just stop copying or downloading the music. so labels would have more money to spend on building up new artists. and they would be more open to unusual kinds of sound. labels today are selling around 1/3 of the compilations they did in 1996 when there was no audiogalaxy and no cd burning. music wasn´t better that days but there was a better chance for new artists to come up with very unique ideas. and: development takes time. i remeber that around 1995-1996 psytrance changed from a softer spacy kind of music into hardcore full on which i really disliked that days. i took years untill something else (what you might call minimal or technotrance) came and blew many peoples minds. that was cool. now most of the dj´s play this music like they played full on before. something else will come for sure in the future, if there´s still a label which survived these hard days today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terrorist Timo Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Its not about that "anybody CAN make that kind of trance" its about "they ARE making !", and thats a good thing, even though the music sucks. Its not about what you CAN do, its about what you DO! And the only way i CAN see it become better is if all those who COULD do better music dont only just know they CAN, but instead also MAKE IT !!! not CANNING but DOING instead.. 7im0 pS: fRuiTy, u rok like a koke blok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Timeeey Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 i mean, just flood the wankers with creativity you are afterall part of thee i-magi-nation, all of you p-pole. When theres enough creative tracks out there, nobody will play tube.. ..raise your standards!!!!!!! luv 7imÖ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lespagnol Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 what about Mr peculiar,fractal glider,noosphere,yumade,paps,saikopod....new releases ,I think all of them are making very good music ; what are shitty releases for you? the trance scene is much more creative than before:full on ;progressive,minimal,industrial,clubby .the choice is much more bigger than before where everybody tried to copy hallucinogen or total eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cpt_shiner Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 theres tons of fresh new sounds out there, just look... me goes and hugs demon tea... and thats bullshit about sales of CD's going down due to mp3's theres no real proof to show that... and what timo said is the total truth... its silly teenagers that use the "i can do it but i dont wanna" argument... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hiq Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 yes, Demon Tea actually released alot good stuff... but Demon Tea is one in a hundred One big difference between 1996 and now: Before, as a musician you had to invest alot of effort and money to make good, quality music... You had to get hardware equipment and hardware synths... And I do think you get more serious (and that way hopefully better) if you "go for it" with all your resources (money, energi and intellect). Anybody (and everybody) makes standard shit now, trying to sound like the "latest" thing (some year ago everybody wanted to sound like Paps or Yumade and now Son Kite for instance)... Labels like Digital Structures I dont understand: EVERYTHING released on them could be the same group, almost everything sounds the same... b o r i n g. Alot of artists started out with trackers and programs like that, and thats really good that people discover musicmaking. But no one released that shit (well maybe one or two Shidapu tracks was released back then).. People should learn making music for a while, and then if they want to get more serious, you try to rise the ribbon (nice expression).. I dont mean EVERYbody when I say everybody, but ALMOST everybody Common' people, open your minds, seek out for something new!.. I mean, how many classics are made today? Just look at the old TIP-releases... Almost every track on all compilations were GREEEEAT tracks back then. Nowadays, if you pick up a compilation, how many GREEAAT tracks do you hear? Mostly standard, been-there-done-that-tracks that no one will remember two months later... BORING! Even TIP (world) ain't that good anymore. Psychedelic all the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zero the Hero Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 hiq,I see that you except Demon tea from your shitty labels list, okay, they're very good, maybe the best label on the scene nowadays, but what about Parvati and Apoxina? If you tell me they release fruityloops music, sorry man, but you make a big mistake, and you don't know nothing! hope for you that you know those great labels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Timeeey Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 i didn´t know that tip world was goa trance? i thought it´s world music ? actually i never liked that label too much anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zero the Hero Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 On each one of the 2 last parvati and apoxina I hear 9 pure psychedelic tracks, not less man, nothing to do with commercial business like Tipworld! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Goagabba Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Apoxina and the second Parvati are very similar, with similar artists being presented. These two albums are the best thing this year. I also really enjoy the Solstice comp, but loads of people are bitchin' bout that one too. I think there's been some really excellent releases this year, which has kept me wanting more music. Hope you find your groove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Inu Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Wise words Timmmeeeey ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ks Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 yo stop coimplaining... go listen to some new forms of goa- check these, cosma - simplicity, human blue - electric roundabout, logic bomb - unlimited, x- dream - irritant... and i am sorry to mention this but the good groups today do not from any means make music on fruityloops.. i mean it would be so much harder on fruity then on cubase using reaktor etc.,,, i don't get your point, because it is much harder to get a good sound on fruity, so why would anyone use it?? technology has enabled us to produce much better music production wise.,... oh yeah and its easy to dis tip, but lets not forget they did release crstal skulls last year,,, probably one of their finest moments ever.... but on the whole, tip has always been more fashionable/ some of you may call it commercial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ibotenic Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 I thought you could export Fruityloops into Cubase... Nowadays we have very high quality trackers, like the ones Arguru has been coding. They support VST2, have all sorts of mastering options (compression, eq) & kewl filters & parameters to twist the sounds. Finally, the song can be written to .WAV with a CPU-munching sophisticated processing option. I can't see why tracks made with these new generation trackers shouldn't be released?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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