Children Posted January 18, 2000 Share Posted January 18, 2000 Astral Projection - Dancing Galaxy Artist: Astral Projection Title: Dancing Galaxy Label: Transient Date: 1997 Track listing: 01. 09'18" Dancing Galaxy 02. 08'12" Soundform 03. 09'44" Flying Into A Star 04. 08'25" No-One Ever Dreams 05. 10'18" Cosmic Ascencion 06. 09'09" Life On Mars 07. 11'01" Liquid Sun 08. 13'44" Ambient Galaxy Review: VERY GOOD album !In my opinion it's THE BEST Astral Projection album ... Tracks 5 and 8 are AWESOME, and Tracks 1 and 7 are very good ... the other tracks are "only" good (none is shit) ;-) You'll recognize the typical sounds of Astral Projection and Israeli psychedelic trance in this album ... The albums ends with a more ambient track (Ambient Galaxy, very good even if it often sounds like Track 1 : Dancing Galaxy), like in all Astral Projection's albums ... DON'T HESITATE !YOU CAN'T BE DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM ;-) Rating : 9/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tequila Posted January 29, 2000 Share Posted January 29, 2000 The problem with AP is that it is often the same.. But the advantage is that AP is a good group so being the same is no more a problem. it sounds like all the other albums...good israeli trance, but nothing particular in Dancing Galaxy. I like soundform very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vm[at]alphatrance[dot]org Posted February 8, 2000 Share Posted February 8, 2000 This album is where it all starts to fall apart. Astral Projection found a formula which brought them much success, but locked themselves into it so tightly, at this point it's hard to believe they are actually capable of producing much more. Same kick, same synthesizer sounds, same melodies, same arrangement, over and over and over again. At the moment, one can safely consider "Dancing Galaxy" to be Astral Projection's swan song. "Another World" and the "God is a DJ" remix only prove this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PsychedelicGav Posted February 8, 2000 Share Posted February 8, 2000 I was a little disappointed with this album. It lacks any real depth and any real songs which stick in your mind. I bought this on the week of its release and this, for me, signalled a turning point of Astral Projection. Sure, it?s okay - but just okay. Too much sounds the same, not enough diversity. This is Astral Projection going through the motions for me, nothing here even comes remotely closer to their earlier and better work. Oh for something memorable as a Kabalah or People Can Fly. Sorry A P - you can do better than this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChrisdeeACiD Posted February 9, 2000 Share Posted February 9, 2000 The best album released by Astral Projection in my opinion. Starts of with "Dancing Galaxy" (their absolutely best track ever made). I love that melodie that enters at 2:04. "Soundform" is also good with cool melodies. "Flying into a Star"... ARGH. A very full on track with psychedelic melodies, great spacey sounds and rythm. Well.. The next track called "No one Ever Dreams" keeps the CD in its full on mode with some heavy bassdrums and nice snares. "Cosmic Ascention" has one of the best melodies on the album that makes me go crazy while dancing! "Life on Mars" is like all the other tracks just perfect. Just listen to that "Alien" sound entering at 6 minutes!!!! It makes my hair stand up and my skin gets tight!! ahhh .Love the bassline here too!! "Liquid Sun".. just great track! Fits so good with the name I think =) The slower version of Dancing Galaxy is also very very good. Great melodie at 5 minutes. get it 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AtomikElf Posted March 9, 2000 Share Posted March 9, 2000 This album KICKS "another world"'s ASS!!! another world can't hold a match to this album. but it does get tiring after a while, but it is still a really really good album. i had sooo much fun listening to it, and every so often i put this on to get me psyched again!! 8/10 - oh yeah, if anyone has jammed a playstation game called "wipeout xl" - u have to play it listening to this album - the sight And sound gels into mind!! what a fast-paced hhhhhhectic journey. i highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chaffi[at]caramail[dot]com Posted April 13, 2000 Share Posted April 13, 2000 Liquid sun is the best AP track ever , and a reference to goa , very ascensional and mindblowing . I would say that the song is divided into 4 parts , at the end of each ones it just all break and they re-add progressively all the instruments with some changes in the melodies to bring you to the highest state of consciousness . This track is a whole journey into trance experience! I'm not kindding , this track is a VERY good example of goa , cause most of the time people forget the definition of goa , cause what's being produced these days can't be really called goa , it's just different . So take a listen to this one and you will see , Take your ticket for the ultimate trance experience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexG Posted June 27, 2000 Share Posted June 27, 2000 great cd! the best of ap ("another world" is 2nd best). there is a lot of talk going on about how ap is not evolving, and i think thats crap: when you've got a sound as beautiful and polished as ap you dont need to take it any further! but, of course, with the new "in the mix" cd ap has degraded from their previous sound and made some bullshit, but that doesnt make their older stuff any worse! this album was their peak, closely followed by "another world". just listen to the album: it's the closest thing to the feeling of real trance there is! sometimes the new experimental projects, while breaking many new grounds, forget the main thing trance is about: harmony! and this album is full of harmony: the sounds interact with each other constantly, ballance each other out, and create a perfectly beautiful atmosphere. every sound has a purpose, and if you really listen deeply, there are so many messages to be uncovered! "liquid sun" is ap's absolute masterpiece: so powerful and beautiful, it's astonishing! "nilaya" is their only track that can rival up to it. hopefully you can appreciate this album for all its beauty, because when you do, it will blow your mind. get stoned if you need to, sit back, and fly away: this is your ticket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dead74 Posted August 21, 2000 Share Posted August 21, 2000 I think this is the second best album from AP next to "Trust in Trance," but that's not to take anything away from this album. "Dancing Galaxy" is such a beautiful track, and the sample they insert from the movie "Dune" is just so sick! "Flying into a star" is a full on stormer in the sense of AP. "Liquid Sun" is another epic track, and it's one of their best tracks. This was one of the introductory trance albums, and it certainly served its purpose. 8.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZARAKNON Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 My only Astral Projection album apart from many of their other tracks I have on compilations. And I'm proud to own at least one of the full albums because it's a complete wonderful journey through the astral plains, absolutely satisfying. It also includes some of the best tunes they ever did, I mean especially Dancing Galaxy, Flying into a Star, not the typical Astral track, very psychedelic for Astral, STORMER! BRILLIANT! YYYEEEEEEEAAAAAH!,...erm...,and Liquid Sun with its divine melodies, GODFUL!!! Don't want to start that stupid AP discussion again, but their music was good 6 years ago, has been good until now and hopefully it will stay that good. Period. They are the masters of morning trance and my recommendation is to get at least one AP album, at best this one. If there was Nilaya on it, the best Astral track ever, it would be 10/10, but like it is: 9.75/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swede Indeed Posted July 4, 2001 Share Posted July 4, 2001 A piece of great work. AP turns into a fater and darker sound than TIT 3(Wich stil is the best) but this isn't bad either. The best track is Flying into a Star and second best is No-one ever Dreams (the melody at 2:33 is so damn goooood). The others are (of course) very fat and dreamy too. I'd say 9,7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cocco Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Trust in trance was great for its time, and The Astral Files was a good remix album with some new tracks. Dancing Galaxy is where AP climaxed with few exceptions (Searching For UFO's on their third Another World album). Dancing Galaxy is, their most engaging, "put you in another world," album, in my opinion. This is a fantastic album; it's ambitious, exciting, and one of the strongest Goatrance albums. 9/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peaceful warrior Posted January 11, 2002 Share Posted January 11, 2002 This album is a masterpiece. Brilliant and mindblowing. Every song is exceptionally good, just like on other Astral Projection cds. I can't really say I like it more than Trust in Trance III because I absolutely love that album as well. I can say that this album is definitely different in some ways and of course the same in many ways (which is good). For one thing this album is a little bit darker than the last one, while still being powerfull and uplifting. The sound is even fatter and better produced than the last one. It sounds exceptional. In this album there are more random spacey, psychedelic sounds which make it a bit of an evolution from the last one (Listen to Flying into a Star for an example). The rythms aren't where Astral Projection focus their creativity, they aren't extremely varied but they work very well to power the music along. Then of course there are those magical Astral melodies which are the focus of their music. I love their melodies. The first song Dancing Galaxy is just so beautiful, I get this very strong feeling every time I listen to it. I love that sample from Dune. Perfect. Eventhough all the songs are exceptionally good I would have to admit that this one is just a little bit special to me. All the songs are amazing so it is really hard to say which ones are the best. Lets just say that they are all wonderful pieces of music that work well with each other to create a masterful whole work of art. All in all, more of the stuff we love and also some new elements thrown in. So have Astral Projection evolved? Yes. Have they completely redesigned themselves? No. But I don't think most of us wanted that anyway. If something isn't broke, don't fix it. With this album you really do feel like you are dancing with a whole galaxy of beings. Priceless. I recomend everybody have it in their collection. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [Anonymous] Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 God...unbelievable work by Astral Projection!!! Only eight tracks,but every track is awesome... Dancing Galaxy is extremely uplifting and beautiful,and tha sample,taken from the "Dune" movie is just incredible addition to the song,it just shows you what kind of experience will you have with that album After that comes Soundform - a brilliant track,just listening to it fills me with a possitive energy. Flying into a star is a fantastic song.Just listen to it and you'll feel like flying into a star No-one ever dreams - fantastic song.the beginning is glowing and after that an ultimate sound will bring you in different world. Cosmic Ascention is more melodic song and is a perfect stuff just like the others os AP Life on Mars - well that song is more different of the other seven in that album,but it is still great one.Probably not the best AP song,but I really enjoy it and it's place is definitely here. Than comes Liquid Sun...that is something undescribeable!The words are insufficient to show the brilliance of that song.It's just a work of Gods,not humans! And for the final - Ambient Galaxy - the ambient version of dancing galaxy is really good stuff.It's the perfect finish for that delightful album. Dancing Galaxy is a MUST HAVE album for every true goa maniac and it's also good if you touch this music for first time.This album is still unsurpassable to this moment and maybe in the years ahead. Finally 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Davidtolsn Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 classic cd. nice melodies and multiple psychedelic layers, perfect for those long nights. if you like the astral projection style, this is among the best. although i do not think it is perfect, and i find the ambient song rather boring, it still gets a solid 9/10 from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Dancing Galaxy: Magical track, very light and melancholic, but so well composed that it's no where near the border to cheese. One of the best goa songs ever. Soundform: The other side of the coin... This is more sinister and evil, but still not very dark. A mad track with a classic melody. Flying Into a Star: This song is more slowly progressing, the melodies are not very well pronounced and i think it's intented to be more of an "atmospheric" track. It's OK, but not a masterpiece No One Ever Dreams: This is atmospheric like "Flying Into a Star", but with the crazy goa insanity of "Soundform"! Very good track! Cosmic Ascension: This track always fails to grab my attention, no matter how many times i play it. Life On Mars: Competent but not mindblowing. Liquid Sun: The name describes the track perfectly; this is like a melting pot of pleasant emotions wrapped in a layer of perfectly arranged goa. Ambient Galaxy: Dancing Galaxy in a slower fashion. This might as well have been left out, as it adds nothing. They should have created a totally new ambient track for the end instead of remixing an already perfect dance track, in my opinion. Best tracks: 1,2,4,7 Final Verdict: 9/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I think this is my favourite Astral Projection album. It can sound a little dated but I still love it. So many of the tracks remind me of partying in Israel under the stars, of ecstacy and happy, hazy days, ahhh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon00 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Easily my favourite album of all time. I still get this out probably once or twice a month. Flying Into A Star was always the standout track for me. Utterly brilliant. Would love to hear someone play some of these tracks out sometime as i never got to experience these times in the outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeletonMan Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 One of four essential releases by the Astral boys (besides Trust In Trance, Astral Files, and Another World). Well, if you ask me these guys were pretty much walking on water back in the midnineties and this album another notch in their belt of classic psytrance releases. My favourite here could be opening track Dancing Galaxy, but then that might just be because I know what I am in for the following some 70 minutes after this. DG is still widely available and I urge any psytrance fan to get it. This could easily be the easiest & cheapest value-for-money psytrance purchase you will ever make. No home should be without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Although it's the most cliche AP album (except Flying Into A Star) it's real classic! Fav tracks: Cosmic Ascencion, Soundform and No One Ever Dreams. The rest are awesome too, not big fan of Ambient Galaxy though. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rino Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 This has got to be the most debated Astral Projection album. By some it's considered the quintissential goa/psy trance release, while by others regarded as the album where the israeli golden boys started to lose their touch with reality and decided to head for superstardom. What is unquestionable, however, is that this is by far their most famous output, conceived in a manner almost impossible not to be liked. "Dancing galaxy" has it all: epic leads, joyful melodies throughout, banging' kicks, shining production, undeniable charm and likeability, and last but not least, enormous cross over potential. I mean, everything that made them popular was multiplied by a thousand here, thus making it the most sold album in the history of the genre. My personal feelings towards this album are somewhere in between calling it a masterpiece and dispatching it as a blatant sell out attempt. While I adored tracks like the opener Dancing Galaxy, Life On Mars and Flying Into A Star ever since first popping this into my stereo, the rest took me years to appreciate! And I'm still not that crazy about the remaining tracks. In my opinion, they lack edge and challenging moments when compared to their previous material. In addition to that, I find tracks like No One Ever Dreams, Liquid Sun and Soundform too formulaic, and well, shallow. Yes, despite their warm, euphoric and larger-than-life melodies, I cannot but feel these tracks were made to be hits, if you follow me. I can play any one of those tracks to any one of my techno/house/drum 'n' bass infatuated friends any given day of the week, and they'll be jumping all over my bedroom walls. If this genre was ever predestined to spit out a hit album, this was it. The Billboard #1 release on the eternal charts of goa trance... To conclude, this is an album not to be missed- Astral Projection fans already own at least two copies, and trust me, other music fans are not far behind. Whether you love 'em or bash 'em to death, this one deserves at least a dozen proper spins. As much as I was never crazy about this alleged magnum opus of theirs, its magnitude and importance is not to be missed or ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rino Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 EDIT: I posted this same enormous review twice... ! So I naturally had to delete one review... Feel free to call me an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cocco Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 ASTRAL PROJECTION - DANCING GALAXY TRUST IN TRANCE RECORDS 1997 01. 09'18" Dancing Galaxy 02. 08'12" Soundform 03. 09'44" Flying Into A Star 04. 08'25" No-One Ever Dreams 05. 10'18" Cosmic Ascencion 06. 09'09" Life On Mars 07. 11'01" Liquid Sun 08. 13'44" Ambient Galaxy Dancing Galaxy has been my favorite album by Astral Projection since I heard it back in 1998. If I had to pick a song to represent the group however, it would be Kabalah from their first album, Trust In Trance. The most interesting perspective I have read on this album is Rino's above. He seems to touch on the bigger picture (unconditional love, peace), higher purpose, and expanding consciousness. There were times I felt similar feelings to a degree and didn't know how to express them. Over the years I've felt that Dancing Galaxy is freeing; this is the blockbuster "peek" of Astral Projection's career. It's also a show, an event that you experience. Across the Universe and the astral realms is the concept and theme for the story driven tracks. The ride is geared for the conscious mind and also appears to be rather friendly to the sub or unconscious mind as well. This is also a great dance album, and to drive to, in my opinion. It seems receptive for trance induced states too, however the most friendly emphasis is on the element of dancing, or various listening. Moving on. One can look at this album from several angles. For instance, where does it stand next to other Full On Goa album? How original is it? How does Dancing Galaxy compare to the sleeper hit debut? Well his group's style is not as groundbreaking as their first album, but they not only innovate, but push the old school "full on" imagination bar in goatrance which is well, groundbreaking. Dancing Galaxy is the album I'd want to show off to my friends if I had to pick an AP album. I've gotten the impression over the years that the group's goal was to make a super Psy/Goatrance album for dancing, and to remain #1. They succeeded, as far as Full On Goa went. And as we know, old school Full On and New School Full On are two different things. I miss when labels let artists make the album the way they envisioned it. 01. Dancing Galaxy has a wonderful sound via the theme opening. The female voice from David Lynch's DUNE are unforgettable and greatly the track with character and tone. Various melodies and direction throughout the song is great. However the artists' seem to be staying close to the ground here. In other words, the track is often risk-free, as if intended to appeal specifically for dance floors or for dancing. There is an interesting transition in the middle, without the beat but it is short lived. Overall this is a great dance song with elements that make it feel classic by today's standards. The actual musical work is not spectacular however. B+ 02. Soundform is darker, more aggressive than the previous number. It's more complex, involving, and energetic than the previous number, especially as it progresses. The song seems to stretch the parameters of its initial structure and by the end, appear a grown and developed version of itself. Overall this is an excellent dance friendly Goa song. I can still see Earth from this distance however. A- 03. Flying Into A Star is the first song to really detach my focus from the ground and take off to the stars. The number is aggressive, atmospheric, and strong throughout. But it lacks melodies. I have often felt the sense that I am traveling deep into the cosmic, dark unknown of outer space while listening to this. It really pushes the listener into the astral realms either visually and/or subconsciously. The male sample bits are effective and well placed in the song. This is one of Astral Projection's best songs, albeit one that lacks memorable melodies. It's emphasis on atmosphere makes it intriging and stand out. It's dance friendly too. It does not seem made to appeal to clubs like the previous song. This group gets to exercise their mind for new ideas and flex their muscles with a new level of strength in this number. I do not find it to be the masterpiece some proclaim it to be though. A- 04. No-One Ever Dreams is another fierce, atmospheric rocket. It follows up the previous number well. Actually, this may be similar to the previous song if it was melody driven. The Goa melodies become more complex, psychedelic, and infectious as the song progresses. They're superb. This is an exciting, less empty and stunningly rich and delectable Goa rocket. A 05. Cosmic Ascencion I'll have to hear in a trance sometime to see if the continuous voice of DJ Jorg affects it. I have often found this track hard to "get into" around the male hymns often taking place thoughout the first half. The melody/sound work is really great though. B+ 06. Life On Mars lacks a stand out Goa lead and for that reason I have never attained a huge liking to this rather strong track. It's involving with a interesting sound textures, and crunchy, aggressive melodic elements as Flying Into A Star was. However I find this less empty in the end, and less infectious than Flying Into A Star. The latter (Track 4) may have capitalized on one direction but that one direction was excellent. This feels less infectious and arresting to my ears. It's still a great track. B+ 07. Liquid Sun is beautiful. The opening and character driven melodies are heavenly, ascending. This is one of the best sunrise songs I have ever listened to. Over the years it has only sounded more beautiful to my mind and ears. It is also a different approach by AP and arguably the most passionate (potentially spiritual) and novel song on the album. Think about it. No song on here is close to this one. Did we hit a celestial area in space or what? Goasia in 2007 made a song that is wonderful and in the same general "feel good" group as this one, as far as beautiful, sunrise Goa songs go. A 08. Ambient Galaxy is an epic Goa/Ambient Trance closing. Even if it is essentially the opening track slowed down, with some alterations and tweaks, this is one of the most solid Goa/Ambient-Trance songs out there. It's a strong and memorable conclusion to a super album. Just when you think it ends, the music continues and sounds even more friendly like an encore. I feel like I'm watching the ending of a great broadway play in the Goa/Space concept and the performers are all bowing, symbolic to the tracks seemingly intent to end the album in glory. A- In Conclusion, some people will always feel that Astral Projection exploited their style by cutting an album with several songs more formulaic [made and/or intended for dance floors] over others. In a sense they're right or at least many listeners have that into their observation. But I don't see anything wrong with building upon an awesome, groundbreaking formula that is fun and danceable, and loved by potentially a million+ people. It isn't like this group decided to shy away from fresh, innovative gems such as Flying Into A Star, Ambient Galaxy, and few others. On another aspect, it is a beautiful, sunrise track like Liquid Sun that shows me the unconditional, passionate Astral Projection I fell in love with after hearing Kabalah. Naturally, the group sticks to the concept of the album for the most part, with Liquid Sun being both the underdog and the odd one out that, in my opinion, is easily one of the top, most beautiful songs this group has ever produced. I've read over the years that this is the best selling Goa album to date. As far as originality, the sequel builds upon the debut in virtually every way but the conditional soul. Dancing Galaxy may not be groundbreaking but the style is modernized with various elements of innovation througout. AP's elaborate style is even more elaborate, complex, and dance friendly than ever before. The concept of interesting track introductions is not discarded either, a big plus. This feels like a bigger, more expensive, polished and impressive follow up to the debut. AP's style and spirit remains but the latter seems altered to a degree, regardless that the package is more shiny overall. Dancing Galaxy is one of their magical old schol Goa albums. However the debut felt less conditional, and that's what I mean when I say their spirit seems altered to a degree. Granted the debut had little room for initial expectation of sudden success or massive exposure. People need to first hear a new style or debut in order to decide whether or not they like it. When artists' try to appeal, that is often when the artist sells out some of his or her passion, creativity, heart, and/or soul in order to compensate for expectations of the clubs, DJ's and fans. Such conpensations create conditions regardless of how many copies the album sells. AP's 1996 debut felt more from the soul. Whereas this sequel is a technical achievement and a selling success over the debut. I think the best way to look at this album is for what it is, a Full On Psy/Goa Trance album. The group simply had the brains, the budget, and the motivation to pull it off. I see nothing wrong with cutting an album loaded with great, excellent, and superb tracks back-to-back. It's actually pretty amazing and the reason I why think this is such a classic. But I cannot help but feel that the group compromised some of their heart and spirit for stardom and "to be accepted, loved, and embraced." Don't we all want to be accepted and loved somewhere inside? But does that "wanting" mean I'd make my work generally more appealing to those who praised my debut? I suppose in addition to myself, if other people loved my style (trying to place myself in AP's shoes) I'd consider developing what people generally seemed to love if I was truly passionate enough, and had a vision I felt was worth sharing. Regardless of the intentions here, Astral Projection took many of their most fun elements and capitalized on them here. The result is what many consider the best Full On Goa album to date. Whereas some artists' cut an album just to appeal, this group doesn't go through the motions like a lush. They're passionate, ambitious, and visionary, if even to produce something that would connect with a broader crowd. Favorite Tracks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9. A- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Favorite Tracks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9. A- 9 is fucking ace, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen dream Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 9 is fucking ace, yes.good ol' jon with the eagle-eyed sharp look harrr! :posford::posford::posford::posford::posford::posford::posford::posford::posford::posford: shillergh kanti boom ace you mean 1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1 me dances to the nothing :posfrut: --- norly, one of the most essential in goaland<-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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