Gate from Dracul by infected mushroom

[Reznik]

Hallo,

does somebody know how they do the gateeffect that comes at about 4:42?

my vst gates all have 16 steps, this is not enough, im looking for a gate with 32 or more

smbody know one?

 

and at 2:23 at montoya rmx is a sound that is rushing into a kickdrum

i dunno how this is done, they use it sometimes, it is really a good, you know how this can be done?

 

thx for help

[phobium]

You could do it ghetto style and automate the volume instead of using a gater-thingie.

(I'm of course saying this because I don't know of a gate with more than 16 steps, but it can be done ghetto style.)

 

And for the second one, sounds like a noise sample that fades in? Kinda like a reverse cymbal?

[Reznik]

yes great its a reverse cymbal thx

i dont use cymbals that much so i didnt hear it.

 

yes i could do the gate manually but i like to build whole tracks on gates

3 or 4 good gate rythms that change thru the leads and vocals

with filters..

i want to play live plugin would be best

[Reznik]

and by the way, what about the kickdrum, how is it kickin so hot?

im new into psytrance but i got some experience from other music.

im using rebirth for my drums (think the best software 909)

but i got my own rebirth mod with the kickdrum from drumatic.

it comes close to a psykick but what effects do they use, i have a only a compressor.

dont think i want to copy them, i just want to understand the psytrance.

thx

[Jikkenteki]

If you use Cubase, Midigate is your obvious answer.

[Philter]

try "advanced midi gate".... it has some bugs, but its definitely better than cubases midi gate....

 

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1058.html

[Jikkenteki]

try "advanced midi gate".... it has some bugs, but its definitely better than cubases midi gate....

 

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1058.html

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If I may hijack the thread for a moment, what do you feel are the weaknesses with Cubase's Midigate? I only ask since I have never had a problem with it in any form since VST5.

[benf52]

for the kicks the main thing is EQ and compressors... u can also try to put some distortion...

pitch bend also gives some nice result... i know i can do it in battery but i dunno about rebirth...

[Reznik]

thanks, midigate is exactly what i was searching for.

think i will have much fun

also i think this is a really good forum, people know what they talkin about, thanks guys

[Kalki]

is midigate comes with cubase. i didnt find it

[Jikkenteki]

is midigate comes with cubase. i didnt find it

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Yes, its one of the standard plug-ins in Cubase and is located in one of the dynamics folders.

[Kalki]

Yes, its one of the standard plug-ins in Cubase and is located in one of the dynamics folders.

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Tanks bro

[phobium]

And regarding kicks, I find that it is best to make my own. Just create a sine wave in your audio editor and pitchbend it untill you think it sounds neat. Then if you want more juice, add some EQ and perhaps compressor. I seldom put compressors on my kicks though, unless I smash them togheter with the bassline when I am making the track. But seldom on the bassdrum sample itself.

[Philter]

If I may hijack the thread for a moment, what do you feel are the weaknesses with Cubase's Midigate? I only ask since I have never had a problem with it in any form since VST5.

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well Jikkenteki,

 

the main weakness is the fact that the hold time is fixed by the envelope generator of the gate, i find this a real drawback. imo the hold time should be triggerd an held as long as the midi note.

[crazyboris]

im using rebirth for my drums (think the best software 909)

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try waldorf attack

[Jikkenteki]

well Jikkenteki,

 

the main weakness is the fact that the hold time is fixed by the envelope generator of the gate, i find this a real drawback. imo the hold time should be triggerd an held as long as the midi note.

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If you have the settings correct the hold time IS the length of the midi note. I used to have a link to an old Steinberg help article that shows how to use it properly this way, but after being sold basically twice now that link has gone missing. I should probably just make a tutorial myself on this since I've been thinking about it for awhile anyways.

[Philter]

If you have the settings correct the hold time IS the length of the midi note. I used to have a link to an old Steinberg help article that shows how to use it properly this way, but after being sold basically twice now that link has gone missing. I should probably just make a tutorial myself on this since I've been thinking about it for awhile anyways.

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Hey Jikkenteki,

 

i phoned a friend today and we discoverd that my midi gate is buggy, works for him... the only setting according to him to get the "midi note lenth" = "gate hold time" is "hold mode" set to "note-off" . this doesnt work with my version. another funny thing is, and i find this very weird, that when i click the steinberg icon on the gate to get infos, the release time gets even longer...???

 

i guess its just a bug...

 

my version of the gate is 1.0 2001.

[Reznik]

@crazyboris

is waldorf attack really that good?

perhaps i should try it... there were so many reviews about sayin its the best

[crazyboris]

@crazyboris

is waldorf attack really that good?

perhaps i should try it... there were so many reviews about sayin its the best

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it kicks ass... BIGTIME!!!!!

 

you can make a gnocchi (miranda) kick it with for example.

 

I can send you a try-before-you-buy version if you like

just pm me