snowball Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 My god this is the real thing!True psychedelia,melodies that make your mind change dimensions on every octave Trance used to be sooooo good! why has everything gone so wrong lately? if i played this on a festival dont you think people would appreciate it more than a boring skazi - accelera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euchkuh Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 like every genre, psytrance is always evolving, and sadly not to a good direction. we'll see better days (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 you can always listen the old stuff. no need to complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 like every genre, psytrance is always evolving, and sadly not to a good direction. we'll see better days (: 527141[/snapback] Let's hope so. Let's hope it rises, phoenix-like, from the ashes and amazes and delights us once more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 My god this is the real thing!True psychedelia,melodies that make your mind change dimensions on every octave Trance used to be sooooo good! why has everything gone so wrong lately? if i played this on a festival dont you think people would appreciate it more than a boring skazi - accelera? 527058[/snapback] You are so right and i´am angry about that every day but i can´t do anything, dimension 5 rocked also and they had a very good production quality for that time but now psytrance which is fullon today is one of the worst musicgenres i know, i´am listening to the very old butterfly trip from astral projection which is so dman good that i cna´t believe todays astral is the same than astral on that time, sorry it wasn´t exactly about this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 you can always listen the old stuff. no need to complain. 527142[/snapback] i have no prob listening to my favorite cds at home,BUT all of the new psytrance fans(excluding me) that werent present when the scene started dont even know what goa is all about.a friend of mine gave some psy with killargh rolling basslines and fx all over the place and told me its goa! its ridiculus! they just listen to what everybody is listening,and dont even care to look for older stuff! i really doubt it that they would be displeased if they went to a festival where old-school artists played!and i dont understand why there arent any festivals like this? is it cz the artists stopped producing?then why not just play a dj set?or maybe people will not go if their favorite artists will not appear? we need fresh blood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Astro Cortex Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 i really doubt it that they would be displeased if they went to a festival where old-school artists played!and i dont understand why there arent any festivals like this? is it cz the artists stopped producing?then why not just play a dj set?or maybe people will not go if their favorite artists will not appear? 527212[/snapback] I guess the simple reason is that of commercial profit. The more new music gets played at parties, the higher the chance that people will buy the new releases afterwards. I know it's a sad thing, but these days oldschool psy, if at all, is only played at smaller/private events I suppose. If you ask me, there should always be some of the old classics played at bigger festivals, if only for the sake of chronological variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 If you ask me, there should always be some of the old classics played at bigger festivals, if only for the sake of chronological variety. 527218[/snapback] exactly.we need more diversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 i have no prob listening to my favorite cds at home,BUT all of the new psytrance fans(excluding me) that werent present when the scene started dont even know what goa is all about.a friend of mine gave some psy with killargh rolling basslines and fx all over the place and told me its goa! its ridiculus! they just listen to what everybody is listening,and dont even care to look for older stuff! i really doubt it that they would be displeased if they went to a festival where old-school artists played!and i dont understand why there arent any festivals like this? is it cz the artists stopped producing?then why not just play a dj set?or maybe people will not go if their favorite artists will not appear? we need fresh blood! 527212[/snapback] well I'm not sure if other people's taste in music is a thing to be conserned about. what sort of feelings does fullon offer to those people who listen to it? I'm sure same sort of euphoric emotions as some get from goa. So is it really a big thing what a person listens to? No. the problem number two. fullon dominates the psy genre and very little goa is being produced. but goa has been produced lots. just dig through the old stuff. even if not much goa is produced these days, there's plenty of it! (like I formerly announced) the problem number three. there's no parties where goa is played. well, look at me. look at my sig. I noticed the same thing and did something about it. You don't even need an artist to organize a goa party. just a dj who knows his/her business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 well I'm not sure if other people's taste in music is a thing to be conserned about. what sort of feelings does fullon offer to those people who listen to it? I'm sure same sort of euphoric emotions as some get from goa. So is it really a big thing what a person listens to? No. the problem number two. fullon dominates the psy genre and very little goa is being produced. but goa has been produced lots. just dig through the old stuff. even if not much goa is produced these days, there's plenty of it! (like I formerly announced) the problem number three. there's no parties where goa is played. well, look at me. look at my sig. I noticed the same thing and did something about it. You don't even need an artist to organize a goa party. just a dj who knows his/her business. 527258[/snapback] i see your point,but it requires a lot of digging to find those albums. from what i can understand from your sig you are organizing an oldschool party? good! i think that if we are to start doing festivals,we are going to rely on DJ's not on artists,but i fear that a lot of people are "attached" to the artists! we have been pushed underground!(again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 My god this is the real thing!True psychedelia,melodies that make your mind change dimensions on every octave Trance used to be sooooo good! why has everything gone so wrong lately? 527058[/snapback] it has not gone wrong ! that is just whyning IMO. oldschool goa trance would suck today, because all artists would simply copy eachother just like fullon do it right now. thats how it happens when something goes into masses, it all gets diluted. i prefer to see scene [musically] the way it is now [approximately] instead of one style dominating, it would go boring and shitty, worn out, all this "magic" would be lost anyway. you can always listen the old stuff. no need to complain. 527142[/snapback] yes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 it has not gone wrong ! that is just whyning IMO. oldschool goa trance would suck today, because all artists would simply copy eachother just like fullon do it right now. thats how it happens when something goes into masses, it all gets diluted. i prefer to see scene [musically] the way it is now [approximately] instead of one style dominating, it would go boring and shitty, worn out, all this "magic" would be lost anyway. yes ! 527420[/snapback] but there is absolutely no goa made these days,its only fullon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 but there is absolutely no goa made these days,its only fullon 527428[/snapback] goa or fullon, who gives a shit, as long as its "psy" enough for you to get where you want ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 goa or fullon, who gives a shit, as long as its "psy" enough for you to get where you want ! 527432[/snapback] full on is rarely psychedelic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 full on is rarely psychedelic. 527445[/snapback] well, you said "rarely" but you didnt say "never" we have also so called "dark" or "forest" psy - some goodies there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 but there is absolutely no goa made these days 527428[/snapback] now there you are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 To be honest I can't take most Old Goa. Too wishy washy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 now there you are wrong. 527487[/snapback] really? tell me tell me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 To be honest I can't take most Old Goa. Too wishy washy 527488[/snapback] I would almost say I'm not seeing you 10.6. ps. sorry to say this, but your sound system really takes a lot of edge off from goa. really? tell me tell me! 527489[/snapback] www.aavepyora.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 I would almost say I'm not seeing you 10.6. ps. sorry to say this, but your sound system really takes a lot of edge off from goa. 10.6? Yeah my sound system is pretty lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 10.6? 527492[/snapback] http://www.elixiria.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...der=asc&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 full on is rarely psychedelic. 527445[/snapback] Fullon isn´t psychedelic at all and has nothing to do with psychedelic, some industrial metal like rammstein and korn and linkin park and some apocalyptica have way more to do with psychedelic trance than fullon, even bulgarian or greek folkmusic have more to do with psychedelic trance than fullon, it is a very different genre that has nothing to do at all with psychedelic or goa trance except the new mfg album because it is not exactly fullon and the bassline isn´t exactly fullonish, the classical fullon bassline is used for example by electronic universe and all the other artists which i don´t know and which aren´t worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 www.aavepyora.net 527491[/snapback] nice! i will have to dig up more! btw, traveller who is that on your signature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Fullon isn´t psychedelic at all and has nothing to do with psychedelic, some industrial metal like rammstein and korn and linkin park and some apocalyptica have way more to do with psychedelic trance than fullon, even bulgarian or greek folkmusic have more to do with psychedelic trance than fullon, it is a very different genre that has nothing to do at all with psychedelic or goa trance except the new mfg album because it is not exactly fullon and the bassline isn´t exactly fullonish, the classical fullon bassline is used for example by electronic universe and all the other artists which i don´t know and which aren´t worth mentioning. 527521[/snapback] HA HA HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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