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I say they are all godfathers of psychedelic trance, but who is for you the most skillfull figure ? :rolleyes:

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I know that this will sound like a clichee, but I do think that musically Simon Posford is the most skillfull producer, but technically Rough & Rush do the trick...melody masters are Martin Freeland and Serge Souque, Bill Halsey is the most psychedelic of all of them and obviously Tim Schuldt has the best mastering skills around... :D

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no erez aizen option?

b.p.empirrrrrrrrre...

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:o Me and my dopey brain... :D

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:o  Me and my dopey brain... :D

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:lol: it's ok - teh posford will have to do just aswell i think :P

 

 

 

twistedddddddddddd...

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:lol: it's ok - teh posford will have to do just aswell i think  :P

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Heh, yeah, Simon, The New God. :D

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The Israeli masters were hugely overlooked...

Har El Prussky and Astral Projection were releasing music long before Itzik Levy knew what is Psy Trance at all.

And aside my dislike of their current output, Infected Mushroom are technical wizards, up there with Simon Posford. So as Avi Algranati that tought them all they know.

And as for mastering, the current master of mastering is Ido Ophir (Domestic) He's the guy that masters all the Hommega releases.

And btw, why Ian Ion and not Frank'E?

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I wouldn't be surprised if Simon takes the cake again... ;)

 

He has a lot of skills but to be hones I myself can't judge if he's better than Avi Algranati, Bilbo Bagginz or Erez Aizen or whoever else. I mean I don't have a clue about producing music and to me each of the mentioned names has his special style and can do awesome stuff. Because of that I'm rather not going to vote...

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For me it's a tie between Posford, Ian Ion & Billy Cosmosis, but I just listened Trancendance in my way to work, so I voted B. Halsey :)

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I wouldn't be surprised if Simon takes the cake again... ;)

 

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Heh, me too...actually of course... :D

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Stupid question: Who is Rough and Rush, never heard of them before? :huh:

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Personally, I find some drum and bass artists far superior to psytrance dj's (as far as mixing and scratching and all-round skills). Mixing 4x4 music is really not hard.

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X-Dream

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Ok, I see. :)

 

Personally, I find some drum and bass artists far superior to psytrance dj's (as far as mixing and scratching and all-round skills). Mixing 4x4 music is really not hard.

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It's about producing and not mixing. But I agree, mixing stuff like d'n'b can be bitchy. Or take a look at hip-hop DJs, they do have amazing skills most other DJs can only dream of.

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Personally, I find some drum and bass artists far superior to psytrance dj's (as far as mixing and scratching and all-round skills). Mixing 4x4 music is really not hard.

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I think the thread is about music production, not dj'ing.

 

Edit : dnb is also 4x4.

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Ok, I see.  :) 

It's about producing and not mixing. But I agree, mixing stuff like d'n'b can be bitchy. Or take a look at hip-hop DJs, they do have amazing skills most other DJs can only dream of.

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Yeah man, ive seen some scatching djs', that specialise in scratching. jesus, most dj's dont even have wet dreams about being that good.
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Personally, I find some drum and bass artists far superior to psytrance dj's (as far as mixing and scratching and all-round skills). Mixing 4x4 music is really not hard.

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Not to burst your bubble, but 99% of Drum and Bass is 4/4 too...

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Not to burst your bubble, but 99% of Drum and Bass is 4/4 too...

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yeah, but its not "equally spaced" if you know what i mean. Its still a BITCH to mix dnb, compared to psy.

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4x4 = four-on-the-floor, boom-tss-boom-tss-boom-tss-boom-tss music

4/4 = time signature

 

Different things, dammit. OD was right.

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yeah, but its not "equally spaced" if you know what i mean. Its still a BITCH to mix dnb, compared to psy.

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Imho, it's not. You just have to focus on other things in the soundscape than the lasershot bassdrum that stands out. While mixing dnb, focus on the snare/hihats. It helps a lot ... :)

 

Anyways, this is thread hijacking.

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Imho, it's not. You just have to focus on other things in the soundscape than the lasershot bassdrum that stands out. While mixing dnb, focus on the snare/hihats. It helps a lot ... :)

 

Anyways, this is thread hijacking.

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Yeah, i do find it difficult especially for that reason. getting the kicks on top of each other is quite hard. Thats how i mix with psy, or thats how i get the tracks in sync.

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yeah, but its not "equally spaced" if you know what i mean. Its still a BITCH to mix dnb, compared to psy.

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mixing dnb is imo easier,

 

-the trackstructure is even more formulated than full on (the first and second drop thing)

+ since it's on vinyl you can see when this drop will be...

-it's faster : you don't have to pitch it as correct as slower music

-it doesn't have a loud kickdrum => easier eq' ing ...

-the tracks allmost never explode towards a climax, that's why mixing is soo more important in a dnb set because most tracks are really too boring to play them from the beginning till the end ....

 

but still you can make mixing as difficult as you want (using 3 decks, scratching etc ....)

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