Colin OOOD Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Jesus I hope to fuk you guys like the OOOD album when it eventually comes out. You're a hard bunch to please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Untrue! If a few simple guidelines were followed, we wouldn't have all these bitchy topics... easy stuff: Do not add vocals. Do not add shitty guitar. Do not add obnoxious full-on bass lines. Do not put your mug on the cover. Do not release with Chemical Crew. Do not make your stuff sound like everyone else (especially so if you already have some great original material out there). Do not remix Switch again, for the love of fuck! Essentially... DO NOT DUMB IT DOWN! If you put out a release built exclusively for dance floor damage, don't expect favourable comments from the vast hordes of home listening addicts. I think the essence of the widespread dissatisfaction is simply that album after album is the same stuff, and it lacks the cerebral quality that initially drew many of us to this music. When the artists give up on making tunes with real spirit, in favour of catchy lyrics or cheap guitar hooks, the music no longer possesses any kind of timeless magic... the anger and the discontent is a by-product of frequent disappointment. Really, I don't think it is too difficult to avoid pissing off the common critics with the music you make - what is really tough is getting it released by the labels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Untrue! If a few simple guidelines were followed, we wouldn't have all these bitchy topics... easy stuff: Do not add vocals. Do not add shitty guitar. Do not add obnoxious full-on bass lines. Do not put your mug on the cover. Do not release with Chemical Crew. Do not make your stuff sound like everyone else (especially so if you already have some great original material out there). Do not remix Switch again, for the love of fuck! Essentially... DO NOT DUMB IT DOWN! If you put out a release built exclusively for dance floor damage, don't expect favourable comments from the vast hordes of home listening addicts. I think the essence of the widespread dissatisfaction is simply that album after album is the same stuff, and it lacks the cerebral quality that initially drew many of us to this music. When the artists give up on making tunes with real spirit, in favour of catchy lyrics or cheap guitar hooks, the music no longer possesses any kind of timeless magic... the anger and the discontent is a by-product of frequent disappointment. Really, I don't think it is too difficult to avoid pissing off the common critics with the music you make - what is really tough is getting it released by the labels 563560[/snapback] Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. Cool avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 "Anger and discontent is caused by frequent disappointment"... works both ways... are you surprised if, in order to stop the disappointment, some artists choose to write music that actually has a chance of bringing in some sort of material reward? It's a good job I like ramen noodles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauryn Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 "Anger and discontent is caused by frequent disappointment"... works both ways... are you surprised if, in order to stop the disappointment, some artists choose to write music that actually has a chance of bringing in some sort of material reward? It's a good job I like ramen noodles... 563573[/snapback] Nah. Too much sodium. could lead to scurvy. That the music that brings in some sort of material reward is many times cookie cutter crap is in and of itself rather discontenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 "Anger and discontent is caused by frequent disappointment"... works both ways... are you surprised if, in order to stop the disappointment, some artists choose to write music that actually has a chance of bringing in some sort of material reward? It's a good job I like ramen noodles... 563573[/snapback] I don't think there are many music fans out there who appreciate materialistic music from artists who have been less materialistic in the past. By the same token, like you suggest, I don't think there are many real artists who appreciate materialistic music, period. That said, the best music will find a way to combine the two: acceptance by fans AND by their wallets. Every artist has the right to sell out, but by doing so they also sell their title of Artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 he isn´t gay, how i know he had an brasilian girlfriend or still has so he is hetro, he probably likes skinny girls like i do. 561585[/snapback] Twisted is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 You know ... after the second listen I must say the part from 5:07 to 5:32 in that song I find quite good but the rest is crap ... 25 seconds good 7 minutes 29 seconds (=449 seconds) bad that's 5,2742616033755274261603375527426 percent good 5 points out of 100 -> result: utter crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spifer jo Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Hey, this thread is off-topic, hommega full on pop is not psy-trance, please delete this thread. 562143[/snapback] AMEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 ... acceptance by fans AND by their wallets. 563579[/snapback] This is dependant on so many different factors, of which the actual quality of music produced and its artistic merit is somewhere towards the bottom of the list. In this, as in so many other areas, spending money makes money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Jesus I hope to fuk you guys like the OOOD album when it eventually comes out. You're a hard bunch to please! 563461[/snapback] Dude, if the OOOD album will suck, i'll punch you personally in November Well that OTTOOD tune that will be on the album is apsolute killer. No worries there. Untrue! If a few simple guidelines were followed, we wouldn't have all these bitchy topics... easy stuff: Do not add vocals. Do not add shitty guitar. Do not add obnoxious full-on bass lines. Do not put your mug on the cover. Do not release with Chemical Crew. Do not make your stuff sound like everyone else (especially so if you already have some great original material out there). Do not remix Switch again, for the love of fuck! Essentially... DO NOT DUMB IT DOWN! If you put out a release built exclusively for dance floor damage, don't expect favourable comments from the vast hordes of home listening addicts. I think the essence of the widespread dissatisfaction is simply that album after album is the same stuff, and it lacks the cerebral quality that initially drew many of us to this music. When the artists give up on making tunes with real spirit, in favour of catchy lyrics or cheap guitar hooks, the music no longer possesses any kind of timeless magic... the anger and the discontent is a by-product of frequent disappointment. Really, I don't think it is too difficult to avoid pissing off the common critics with the music you make - what is really tough is getting it released by the labels 563560[/snapback] Word Every artist has the right to sell out, but by doing so they also sell their title of Artist. 563579[/snapback] Word2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 So what about artists who write commercial music (whether in-scene or outside it, such as adverts or computer games) in order to fund the music they really want to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 By all means, these artists should feel welcome to do commercials, game music, radio, movies, and other such jobs. Choosing a new name to signify a new direction and intent is a fail-safe way to avoid pissing off old fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 By all means, these artists should feel welcome to do commercials, game music, radio, movies, and other such jobs. Choosing a new name to signify a new direction and intent is a fail-safe way to avoid pissing off old fans. 564101[/snapback] but they are not selling music, they are selling their name-brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAn_WiTh_No_nAmE Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Simon is king! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETOX Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Downloading the sample. Lets wait and see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Simon is king! 564204[/snapback] According to my sources, he's also done advertising music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 According to my sources, he's also done advertising music. 564950[/snapback] What's wrong about that? If he doesn't try to sell his advertising music / house / hip-hop (or whatever he's involved in musically at the moment) as Hallucinogen or Shpongle, then it's not a problem... Want to try new style or dumb-down your music to make it popular? Choose another name! I'm sure I'm gonna love OOOD's new album as much as I love previous two, so bring it on already!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 According to my sources, he's also done advertising music. 564950[/snapback] So did Prometheus, and actually me too. Will people hate me for making soundtrack for a commercial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 So did Prometheus, and actually me too. Will people hate me for making soundtrack for a commercial? 565043[/snapback] I dunno man, it's selling out. You're only really worth listening to if you have to beg on the streets to raise cash to pay your studio electricity bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I dunno man, it's selling out. You're only really worth listening to if you have to beg on the streets to raise cash to pay your studio electricity bill. better yet, you should day starving - only then your music will be considered 'art' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I dunno man, it's selling out. You're only really worth listening to if you have to beg on the streets to raise cash to pay your studio electricity bill. 565130[/snapback] Look buddy, nobody mentions that gay porn gigs you did before the OOOD right? So ehmm, shhh shhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Look buddy, nobody mentions that gay porn gigs you did before the OOOD right? So ehmm, shhh shhh. 565160[/snapback] Yeah well they did pay me ok for just sticking a couple of sample-CD noises over a bog-standard drum loop, and it was bearable cos I didn't actually have to watch them to write the music. I'm sure you earned more being in them them though - I admire your bravery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Yeah well they did pay me ok for just sticking a couple of sample-CD noises over a bog-standard drum loop, and it was bearable cos I didn't actually have to watch them to write the music. I'm sure you earned more being in them them though - I admire your bravery. 565175[/snapback] Aktually it wasn't me in the penetration scenes. I used a stuntman. He's name was Andrew something. A young lad from UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Aktually it wasn't me in the penetration scenes. I used a stuntman. He's name was Andrew something. A young lad from UK. 565244[/snapback] Phew, for a minute then I thought you meant Andrew Humphries, but then I realised it couldn't be him as he's Australian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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