IDM

[Otto Matta]

I agree. Because the whole thing has become so broad, I prefer to generalize and call all that stuff "electronica". But "IDM" is still used, so I have to roll with it. If anyone's really curious about what IDM is, research the Warp, Rephlex and Skam catalogues from their inception in the early 90s to the present and go from there. It's not a straightforward path, and other genres have been involved. Boards of Canada, for instance, have practically spawned a new and very large subgenre by themselves (melodic, nostalgic IDM). Same with Autechre and Squarepusher, respectively. A family tree would look very complicated, because although it is a new-ish genre, it draws its material from all other 20th, and now 21st, century genres, electronic or not. But that's also what's so interesting about it, for those who like the music.

[Time_Trap]

well I heard Keef Baker live yesterday and I do think what he played deserved to be called Intelligent Dance Music

[Bahamut]

There's a particular type of IDM I despise. It's the extremely glitchy, noisy, abstract, ADHD look-how-complex-my-beats-and-how-random-my-melodies-are IDM.

[Otto Matta]

There's a particular type of IDM I despise. It's the extremely glitchy, noisy, abstract, ADHD look-how-complex-my-beats-and-how-random-my-melodies-are IDM.

Me too.

[RAH]

Me too.

Ahh... but therein lies our problem. I don't know how it works for most of you here, but I enjoy some abstract, mildly complex beats, quasi-glitchy, avant-garde... noise...

the problem is the right amount. You take it too far on the melodic end and it sounds a bit too sweet for me (kind of like schnauss, which is great, but in small dozes)... take it down the wrong end and all you have is nonsense. IDM (or whatever you want to call it) and especially the good kind, thrives on this union of chaos and order to symbiotically create aestheticism with some degree of originality.

 

In that quest for something pleasant, without forgetting the 'psychedelic' aspect (random, crazy, unusual) sometimes we miss stuff. I.e: rump records, object records, cactus island, and on a more personal level: On An Bast, Funckarma, Karsten Pflum, Casino Versus Japan...

Some is just unequivocally sublime: pub, plat, miles tilmann, i'm out right now...

 

p.s: nick, i keep checking out your tips... good stuff.. :clapping:

[Otto Matta]

I don't really see it as a problem. The genre is broad enough so that people with varying tastes can feel free to play, evolve and enjoy different aspects of it. I started with the more abstract stuff and have mellowed to the melodic stuff. Funckarma and Casino Versus Japan I consider a nice balance between melodic and abstract, and enjoy their music quite a bit, as opposed to, say, Venetian Snares, which I find is on a highly abstract level, but could be considered psychedelic to some.

[Kryll]

Bola & Mouse On Mars are the first i think of when reading IDM

but not really into these things

 

 

 

Beaumont Hannant, or Starfish Pool sometimes get called IDM..

dunno if it is or not.. still it's a good balanced mix of ambient and electronics what they made imo

[mono]

There's a particular type of IDM I despise. It's the extremely glitchy, noisy, abstract, ADHD look-how-complex-my-beats-and-how-random-my-melodies-are IDM.

I get your point and i don't like extremely noisy and overly radom stuff either, but in my opinion this can be awesome if executed correctly.

For example: Hrvatski - Swarm & Dither finds the perfect balance: it is noisy and no beat sequence is heard twice in one song but still you have the feeling you are listening to a cohesive song instead of a random cutup of beats and noises.