New way of live perfromance

[blasphemy]

well, i think that its attitude, not "live this live that", thats wheres the problem, how one perceives live acts/dj's,so imo if music is good its not live acts fault that they get invited to party just because people like their music, not to stare at them, but music. and its not to be replaced by dj's or vice versa. sometimes people want to experience masters themselves performing their music, live, the energy.

at least i wouldnt mind to experience some pleiadians live

and not staring at them, but dancing  .

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But if you would dance, what difference would it make if it was a DJ playing Pleiadians, or Pleiadians playing Pleiadians??

[Guest Elysium]

But if you would dance, what difference would it make if it was a DJ playing Pleiadians, or Pleiadians playing Pleiadians??

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exactly

[reger]

But if you would dance, what difference would it make if it was a DJ playing Pleiadians, or Pleiadians playing Pleiadians??

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exactly

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no difference, but as i said - sometimes people just dont mind to have these kind of vibes when music is being "performed" [or whatever you will call it] by creators themselves, live, when there are so many possibilities to hear something new in allready "beloved" tracks. whats so hard to understand about it? do you want dj's to be dominant force? i dont want neither of them to dominate, balance.

the interaction ffs.

[blasphemy]

Imho, the artists should be back in the studio kitchen making new breakfasts for the DJ`s. Not spending there time fulfilling their egodreams in front of lots of people.

 

I dont care if i see him or her on stage, the magic of the music dissapears the more you know about it. Thats why, in this case i wish internet would have never been created. There is little way of underground activities since, because internet means total information.

Total information combined with a western way of thinking kills all magic & legends and show them for what they are, common humans like all of us.

Maybe this is just an evolutionary process for the human civilization, but i have to say i prefer the magic.

 

When first discovered Goa, it sounded like it was music made by aliens! From another time and place. Nowadays i know almost everything about how it was done, and who did it. Id wish id never learn!

[Ov3rdos3]

*sigh*

 

I remember parties where you couldnt even see the DJ. he was hidden somewhere on the side. The music was the highlight. Not the DJ.

[Quazzi]

Those built ups are soooooooo cheesy!

[Lost Buddha]

speechless

[snowball]

Imho, the artists should be back in the studio kitchen making new breakfasts for the DJ`s. Not spending there time fulfilling their egodreams in front of lots of people.

 

I dont care if i see him or her on stage, the magic of the music dissapears the more you know about it. Thats why, in this case i wish internet would have never been created. There is little way of underground activities since, because internet means total information.

Total information combined with a western way of thinking kills all magic & legends and show them for what they are, common humans like all of us.

Maybe this is just an evolutionary process for the human civilization, but i have to say i prefer the magic.

 

When first discovered Goa, it sounded like it was music made by aliens! From another time and place. Nowadays i know almost everything about how it was done, and who did it. Id wish id never learn!

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Ignorence is Bliss man!

[reger]

Ignorence is Bliss man!

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hehe, i thought the same, but restrained from posting

[Guest Elysium]

hehe, i thought the same, but restrained from posting

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No you did not.. You replied so i can write this

[reger]

No you did not..  You replied so i can write this 

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eh ?

you could write that any time

[Psyolopher]

lol funny Topic!

who the fuck does Eskimo think he is?

 

Some kind of advanced copy cat of Vangelis? XD i cant see no lasers in the air!

lol, btw what skazy did is understandable.... Cuz he's a Dj!

but Eskimo? Live performance...hmmz....what tha XD

Its ok to dance while performing but what the hell?

[Snapinho]

Taken from Sonkite.com, posted there by Sebastian. Interesting read!

July update

 

When we get a booking we always send a technical rider/contract to the organizer that he/she have to confirm/sign. In the technical rider you get all the information about what we need to be able to make our performance and since we bring around 100 kilo equipment ourselves the organizer don’t need to arrange much. Just to make sure that we will get everything we need our manager always calls three times to the organizer to make sure that they have arranged everything we need. Important to add is that we don’t ask for things just for fun: EVERY thing we ask for is used in our live set and if we don’t get it we can’t perform. To us this sounds very easy and logic, doesn’t it?

 

 

 

Here comes a short story/example of how it can be when you’re touring and end up with an unprofessional organizer. This story is from the Souleclipse festival in Turkey, they made all the mistakes an organizer can do! Please note that they are not the only ones doing mistakes but this was just hilarious!!!

 

 

 

We took the flight from Sweden to Turkey 6.30 in the morning (just to make sure that we got to the festival in good time) and arrived at the festival in turkey late afternoon and there where nobody to pick us up at the airport… got picked up a few hours later (because some juicy champignons were going to get picked up), arrived at the festival area around 01.00. We where supposed to play around 8.00 in the morning so there was a lot of time to prepare the liveset…. We thought!! Went to the stage and tried to find someone in charge. We couldn’t find anyone so we had to do all the stage management by our self, until our dear friend and angel Sally Dollally came and saved us. (Without her help there wouldn’t have been a live set from us). From 01.00 to 08.00 the three of us were working our asses of just to get hold of the equipment we need to be able to play … but after scanning the festival site for hours we couldn’t get the stuff we needed and had to find out new ways with the things they had (12 hours before that the organizer made a personal promise that he had ALL the equipment in front of him and that he personally would show it to us when we arrived (we never saw him!!!))

 

So finally we have enough equipment to play with … but where? Before our gig was four “live acts” in a row, all just using a laptop playing a stereofile! When someone is playing you can’t connect four meters of equipment (on a two meter table) since you then would have to disconnect the stuff he’s playing with (even thou it’s just a computer thru a 48 channel mixer and even thou it would sound exactly the same if he just pressed play on the cd player). This is the reason why you ALWAYS should have one dj in between two liveacts. To be able to play we had to build a new table behind the other one … and do you think we got any help (except from Sally of course)? Anyway we managed to get everything ready 3 minutes before our timeslot, this means 7 hours of non stop stage-managing, stage building and equipment hunting, all well wrapped in frustration and irritation! How much motivation do you think we had to play? How much energy to do you think we had for smiling, improvising and to get into the music?

 

Different people are responsible for different things, also when you’re making a party. The only thing an artist should be responsible for is performing, at his/her absolute best … the party organization should work at its best to create the best circumstance for the artists to perform and for the audience to enjoy the performance … that is the point with having a concert or a music festival. People that love our music paid a lot of money to see us in Turkey and because of a shit organization we couldn’t do a good job, we are very sorry for this but we hope that people understand the reason. As I said before this organization is absolutely not the only one that don’t know what a technical rider is, at least half the time we play we have to make weird solution to be able to play. If you’re an organizer you should know your work and take it serious since you have a responsibility towards artists and most of all; your customers.

 

 

 

BUT we believe that the problem is much more complex than this and there is an explanation why organizers don’t pay so much attention to our technical rider. There are hundreds of live acts in the trance scene, playing all around the world and earning good money … and you could probably count the ones actually playing live on one hand! Playback live set in the trance scene is as accepted as djs playing with cd players, people even get surprised when you actually play live … how sick isn’t that??? If you get booked and paid for playing live you should play live, if you don’t have the equipment or the knowledge to be able to play you shouldn’t accept the booking! If you’re interested to play live, develop your way to play and let the world know when you’re ready. We totally disrespect all the fake artists playing around the world (almost every trance artist) and we hope that YOU, the customers that in the end pay the money to the artists, claim your obvious right to enjoy live performances when this is what they write on the flyer! You should print t-shirts with the slogan “FFLA – fu** fake live artists” and if you come to a party and find an artist not playing live, go to the door and claim back your money!!! In this way the organizers will start to claim a non playback live set when they book an artist and hopefully this would force the lazy m****fu**** to work for their money.

 

 

 

A summer statement in the name of Music!

By Sebastian of Son Kite.

 

“I’m in love and I can do anything for this love”. This feeling is called passion! You can have different passions in life, some people have an intense passion for music, art or books others have an extreme passion to create music, art or lyrics. If you have this passion for creating art you’re an artist. To be an artist is very beautiful and I thank life every day for this gift BUT it’s of course not an always easy gift. When you’re an artist your creativity will never sleep and this creativity will push you forward, upwards, downwards, sideways … always to new places, new discoveries and new experiences … AND not only when “you” want but when it wants you to!

 

Music has many different stages, levels, moments and means. Different music have different aims, different music have different possibilities and ways to express feelings. This discussion is focused on dance music which is a good example on a music style with a very precise aim … to dance!

 

When you’re making music you always have to fight between the thought vs the feeling. Both are indispensable when you’re making music but you have to separate them. A good example for you who love to dance; imagine yourself on the dancefloor … getting into trance … feeling something higher … getting lost together with the music. This is hardly possible if you’re at the same time are thinking about something concrete (like buying a beer or think about what you will do tomorrow). Exactly the same goes for making music or playing music. Here we reach the biggest problem with most electronic music, especially electronic dance music. Most dance music made today is strictly made around a computer/software interface, some are using external devices but most artists are still bound around the linear, click and cut – method provided in programs like Logic or Cubase. This way of working is a perfect example of an act by thought, not by feeling. If we compare that with playing an instrument we face a tremendously big difference. When you’re play an instrument you know how to play and you don’t need to think about how to play and then you either learn how to play a piece of music (so you don’t need to think about the notes) or you improvise over given rules/patterns/chords … while you’re doing this you leave the thought behind and reach your feeling/your heart … this is music!!!

With this I don’t mean that you must get limited while creating electronic music/electronic dance music … rather the opposite! The development of electronic music equipment and computer based music equipment is the biggest revolutions in music making/playing/composing/producing of our time and even though the traps and pit holes are many you also have possibilities to use the new technology in a wise and musically healthy way. Wisely used it also enables you to leave the thought behind and let you play with your feelings even thou you can’t play an instrument or have a musical training. (This is by the way one of the biggest steps in the democracy of the art). There are many artists doing amazing and innovative compositions with only a computer!!! Of course there will always be a big need of the thought when your composing or producing but to create something innovative and soulful you should work in a way that enables you to reach your inner feeling as many times as possible during the creative process.

 

Back to the subject; if the composing and producing part has an urgent need of using the thought, playing live is your best opportunity to perform a sessions using your feelings and leave your thought behind (as much as possible). To be able to do this you need a live platform that enables you to change the music on the fly … this can be done in endless of ways, thru different software platforms, hardware platforms or combinations between the two. So step one is to create this platform but before you do that you should think about WHAT you want to do with your live set, what parameters you want to control and what your purpose with the live set? Step two is to practise with your platform so you don’t need to think about what you’re doing (to be able to go with the feelings/heart). Step three is to enter stage and try all the things you’ve practice, handle your nervousness and solve all technical problems (you never stop to get surprised how many things that can go wrong). Who said that this would be easy and who thought that you would do a perfect job the first time? You have to practice, learn and get inspired. But this is the point … if you have to create and work for something there are ALWAYS a possibility to continue the development you’ve started and if you can continue to develop you never know what the end will be … which bring us back to the meaning of art! Nor music or the way of performing music should be a fixed or static thing … the key to creative happiness is to keep all possible doors open, and this is mostly an opposite thing to being lazy!

 

I would like describe a scenario, which I always thought was the truth, but got heavily reformed after years of touring. (Naivety is one of the beauties of the youth).

Imagine all trance artists flying around the world every weekend, playing at different parties/festivals, meeting other artists, djs, music lovers and people. Imagine that all these artists did something unique, something different, something new, striving to always do something more and better … imagine how much inspiration and motivation this would create, both between the artists but also to all the “yet to be artists” dancing to their music, looking at them on stage. There are million ways to perform electronic music … it’s hard to find a better ground for letting artists to be creative, not only in playing live but also HOW to play live. Just thinking about how you can play live will create new ideas how to create music … new ways of creating music will lead to new ideas how to perform the music … the circle becomes a spiral … everything is possible. Imagine how much importance this could be for the parties but also for the music itself. I will not hide my sadness for the lack of innovation within the trance scene, but I still believe that things can change and I believe that this change is necessary to preserve trance music as something innovative, experimental and interesting and not let it become a fast food industry, which is the obvious tendency today. I believe the change will come from the young people, still blind by the love for the music and not infected by the ‘easy money’ one can earn.

 

Music and music activities, with a deeper goal, should always stay dynamic, unexpected and innovative … it doesn’t matter if the music activity is listening, producing, playing an instrument, dancing or playing live.

 

Don’t restrict yourself by accepting a lazy behaviour just because it’s a common thing to do, prize life and your own beauty by doing the best you can … it’s always more than you could ever believe.

 

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