snowball Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Ok so here is the problem: When i use more than one plugin(,not only downloaded VSTs though, sytrus and wasp that come with FL react in the same way) clicks and cracks appear. At first it was only a mild annoyance,but now,combining sytrus and another VST (Syntar)that i dl,it has become terrible. I can no longer hear what i am making,its drowned in glitches and pops!Its inaudible!! When i export the file though,as an MP3 or a WAV file,the sound is crystal clear. So it has something to do with FL My cpu usage varies,sometimes its very low or very high,but the annoying sounds are allways present.so i dont think its a cpu problem. My RAM is 1gb,so i rule this out . My soundcard is a Creative SB Live! that came with the pc.(on demand though) Can it be my soundcard? Am confused cause if the problem was my soundcard,the glitches would appear ALSO when i exported the file.WTF! can someone PLEASE help!! I need to make music,am addicted to it,its my fix!!! i hope that its not my soundcard,as i just spent my last money on books,and i am flat broke. HELP!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobium Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Could be a number of things. Are you using ASIO drivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 seems like latency problem. at first higher the latency in steps and check if its working. and of course use asio drivers, if you dont, try http://www.asio4all.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 yeah i have asio drivers!!! i will try to work with the latency!!! EDIT: something fucked up my asio files.i will try to find the zip file with the drivers. Reznik are those ASIO reliable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Reznik are those ASIO reliable? 597907[/snapback] they are, very popular and used all over the planet, dont worry. before you install read faq on site but if you already have asio drivers for your card, try a reinstall first. also check if something in your properties of fl changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 And if that dont work than u can go on creative labs site and download asio drivers for SB live! I have that card too and I will first try to download those drivers then if that doesnt work asio4all must.. What is the minimum latency u can achieve with that card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixxxan Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Reznik are those ASIO reliable? 597907[/snapback] Is Asio reliable??? Man in which world have you been living on? Of course it is, even the best audiocards like firewire motu or RME use them. they are what u need to get low latency. I think that if ur asio drivers messed up, that is most probably the source of ur problems. I think that creative soundcards are not a good choice for producing on pc. there are way better audiocards for the same price (like some of maudio - audiophile) ok since u already got it, i can give u some and advice as i owned a audigy myself some years ago. Dont use the Creative drivers! they suck! There is a company that makes asio drivers for creative cards like Live and Audigy Its called KX audio, look them up in google. This may sound strange , but these drivers are way way better than Creatives (dont ask me why) Check em out, ull be surprised how well they work. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Is Asio reliable??? Man in which world have you been living on? Of course it is, even the best audiocards like firewire motu or RME use them. they are what u need to get low latency. I think that if ur asio drivers messed up, that is most probably the source of ur problems. I think that creative soundcards are not a good choice for producing on pc. there are way better audiocards for the same price (like some of maudio - audiophile) ok since u already got it, i can give u some and advice as i owned a audigy myself some years ago. Dont use the Creative drivers! they suck! There is a company that makes asio drivers for creative cards like Live and Audigy Its called KX audio, look them up in google. This may sound strange , but these drivers are way way better than Creatives (dont ask me why) Check em out, ull be surprised how well they work. Cheers 598759[/snapback] dude. i know that ASIO drivers are very important and very widely used,i was asking reznik if those asio4all drivers were reliabe,cause there have been a lot of rumours about their unstability and crashes they cause.maybe their latest version is reliable though,i still havent dl them,am so fucking busy these days and i HAVE to buy an new hard drive,i've got only 2gb left.(out of 80) yeah i know that my soundcard its shit for making music. hey thank for the tip,am gonna check them out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getafix Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Also try increasing your buffer settings in FL..That helps sometimes as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalki Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 asio4al is not giving good result for me. when i use that my cpu usage is increasing alot. its more faster with my soundcard drive. if ur asio dosnt work select ur card n increase the buffer size. i think that will solve the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I think that creative soundcards are not a good choice for producing on pc. there are way better audiocards for the same price (like some of maudio - audiophile) 598759[/snapback] You are saying that Creative Sound Blaster Live! worths as much as M-audio Audiophile 2496 or 192??? Are u mad??? I have SB Live and Audiophile is 10 times and more expensive than SB.. Anyways thanks for suggestion for that KX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyboy Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Ok so here is the problem: When i use more than one plugin(,not only downloaded VSTs though, sytrus and wasp that come with FL react in the same way) clicks and cracks appear. At first it was only a mild annoyance,but now,combining sytrus and another VST (Syntar)that i dl,it has become terrible. I can no longer hear what i am making,its drowned in glitches and pops!Its inaudible!! When i export the file though,as an MP3 or a WAV file,the sound is crystal clear. So it has something to do with FL My cpu usage varies,sometimes its very low or very high,but the annoying sounds are allways present.so i dont think its a cpu problem. My RAM is 1gb,so i rule this out . My soundcard is a Creative SB Live! that came with the pc.(on demand though) Can it be my soundcard? Am confused cause if the problem was my soundcard,the glitches would appear ALSO when i exported the file.WTF! can someone PLEASE help!! I need to make music,am addicted to it,its my fix!!! i hope that its not my soundcard,as i just spent my last money on books,and i am flat broke. HELP!!!! 597887[/snapback] hello my friend, i'm in the same situation with the same program as you! So i have tried to found solution to this problem many times. Fistly,if you load a lot of vst,like me(about 10)or you,the song will have prob because music progs cant load many vst and play in a good way. After researches i found that solution is:or faster cpu or extract to wav the vst channels with more fx! Also,Dont put many fx in a channel!! thanx PS:sorry for the greekenglish!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 hello my friend, i'm in the same situation with the same program as you! So i have tried to found solution to this problem many times. Fistly,if you load a lot of vst,like me(about 10)or you,the song will have prob because music progs cant load many vst and play in a good way. After researches i found that solution is:or faster cpu or extract to wav the vst channels with more fx! Also,Dont put many fx in a channel!! thanx PS:sorry for the greekenglish!!! 599084[/snapback] thanks for the tips man! i have inreased the latency and for the moment its ok! nο worrys for the greekenglish,και ελληνικα μονο να εγραφες παλι ΟΚ θα ηταν! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyboy Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 thanks for the tips man! i have inreased the latency and for the moment its ok! nο worrys for the greekenglish,και ελληνικα μονο να εγραφες παλι ΟΚ θα ηταν! 599088[/snapback] palavos edo boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Is Asio reliable??? Man in which world have you been living on? Of course it is, even the best audiocards like firewire motu or RME use them. they are what u need to get low latency. I think that if ur asio drivers messed up, that is most probably the source of ur problems. I think that creative soundcards are not a good choice for producing on pc. there are way better audiocards for the same price (like some of maudio - audiophile) ok since u already got it, i can give u some and advice as i owned a audigy myself some years ago. Dont use the Creative drivers! they suck! There is a company that makes asio drivers for creative cards like Live and Audigy Its called KX audio, look them up in google. This may sound strange , but these drivers are way way better than Creatives (dont ask me why) Check em out, ull be surprised how well they work. Cheers 598759[/snapback] finally those kx drivers are not that good.they caused me bugs all over the place,and now i get this error message every time i start the pc.even fl crashes when i select them,i have to unisstall them and reinstall the oriniginal creative drivers.....maybe it was a bad install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixxxan Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 finally those kx drivers are not that good.they caused me bugs all over the place,and now i get this error message every time i start the pc.even fl crashes when i select them,i have to unisstall them and reinstall the oriniginal creative drivers.....maybe it was a bad install 599621[/snapback] yesss.. i forgot to tell u they are not that easy to install, i had to get a system freak friend of mine to install them for me! but they are good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 yesss.. i forgot to tell u they are not that easy to install, i had to get a system freak friend of mine to install them for me! but they are good! 599623[/snapback] Yeah, thanks for forgot to tell us, Im lucky my friend didnt bring me the drivers still.. Can u at least describe what that system freak done to get it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 yesss.. i forgot to tell u they are not that easy to install, i had to get a system freak friend of mine to install them for me! but they are good! 599623[/snapback] you owe me a new soundcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 yesss.. i forgot to tell u they are not that easy to install, i had to get a system freak friend of mine to install them for me! but they are good! 599623[/snapback] Me too.. How will u pay that back man? Better think of a good way cause u are busted otherwise.. I already talked with my lawyer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 the problem has reappeared. it had stopped,but after reinstalling the drivers because kx fucked them up(pixxxan am looking at you ) it has reappeard,i have set the buffer at 300ms,but its still fucked up. am gonna dl those asi4all and give them a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 this is disgustingly fucked up. asio4all doesnt produce any sound and cpu usagfe jumps to 100%. i had been using the primary sound driver(as it says in the audio options) with 300ms latency and it had been pretty much OK.the occasional pop and crack but acceptable. i added a z3ta for a pad and its all gone to hell again. max latencey wont change a thing,the sb live(C400) drivers are even worse and asio4all is mute. should i throw the pc out the window,or is there still hope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 have you selected the asio driver in fl properties. what are your system specs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 have you selected the asio driver in fl properties. what are your system specs? 601088[/snapback] yeah man,in audio properties. intel p4 2.6 soundblaster live! 1gb ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 fucking shit. i think you messed it up, with installing so many drivers. you need to uninstall/delete all sound drivers properly from your system. asio4all was working at my system i had before. do you have anything like tuneup utilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 fucking shit. i think you messed it up, with installing so many drivers. you need to uninstall/delete all sound drivers properly from your system. asio4all was working at my system i had before. do you have anything like tuneup utilities? 601095[/snapback] dude i did that yesterday. i unistalled kx.unistalled the creative drivers.re installed the creative drivers and then the asio4all. i have un updated version of the creative drivers though that i haven installed yet,but i dont think it will do any good cause i allready had them installed before installing this version and the pops and cracks were there. yeah i have tuneup!can it help? edit ; i noticed that if i mouve my mouse quiclky whne fl6 is playing back a pattern or song the skips and cracks appear.also if i want to hear a note in the piano roll by cliking on the keyboard keys on the right,the sound is full of pops and cracks and it skips. so i deleted the extra z3ta channel i wanted to use for a pad,and the cracks are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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