newdeal Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hello everybody I try make music for about one year. At this time i would say i know the technical things (how to use cubase, modelling synth, make basses ....) But I have problems to make full on psytrance melodys. I want to make a 1/16 melody I tryed to take only one note, played me with the length of the tone, and looked that I get the melody with the automation (resonance, filters, and osc pitch) of my access virus. But at the moment im not realy happy with it Can anyone teach me the basics at making melodys Sorry for my broken english I'm from >Austria< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakoluth Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 IMO what you were trying to do is not a melody, but just a synth line. a melody consists of tones in different tone pitches, like C, D, E etc. they sound like, but they aren't as per definition i think. however, in psytrance, especially of the calmer sort, most "melodies" are simple one-tonal lines like you tried to do, but not "real" melodies, as i see it. in the lines i make for example, there are most often just a few differently pitched tones and filter cutoff etc automation. but thats because i dont want very complex melodies in my music. making these ubercomplex goa melodies requires some harmony or piano or whatever knowledge imo. from a pro's view of things, this might be utter b/s as well, though, sorry cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 90% of all melodies i hear in spy and goatrance are made with an arpeggiator. Some synths, or VST's have build in arpeggiators. if you have a midi-controller or synth you can download sweet MIDI arpeggiator, connect IN to midi mapper and OUT to USB audiodevice and you can use it in windows to start experimenting. When you are done, save the midi and import it in your composer software. Don't underestimate the power of this tool, if you master it you don't need any musical skills to make music, sounds weird huh? sweet midi arpeggiator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daraya Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Of corse not everybody has a hardware midi controler or software with such controler built in (eg. Reason), so I suggest to instal virtual keyboard like this one: http://www.chrapek.whad.pl/rozne/reasonmdb_setup.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 arpeggiator imo sux better take some piano lessons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toza Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 you don't need any musical skills to make music, sounds weird huh?That's pretty sure! Yeah very wierd ! If you like to make music, and if you have a motivation+inspiration, you can make great stuff! Now back to the topic... Arpeggiator could be very usefull, as mentioned b4. As for the melody, I can't help much, but try to make melody this way. Play the rythm and bassline in the background(set to repet) and over that, try to play live with keyboard, and then record the part you like. Try varios melodies, something might work fot you. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 arpeggiator imo sux better take some piano lessons 618745[/snapback] 100% true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daraya Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 arpeggiator imo sux better take some piano lessons 618745[/snapback] I agree, but we're talking here about "short period of time" ways, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I agree, but we're talking here about "short period of time" ways, I guess 618788[/snapback] why? better go take lessons, and when you get home, use whats youve learned that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikkenteki Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 One of the better recent discussions on the topic of melody and psy-trance can be found HERE I personally find arpeggiators the most useful when they are applied to a melody that is already solid without it, but like everything try it and if it works use it, if it doesn't move on to the next thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newdeal Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Thanks for your replys That is what i call help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newdeal Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 The apregiator from your post did'nt work good But I tried that one from cubase (Arpache SX) and some other midi effects (panning, compresor...) I know that i've to learn the basic about meldoies but for the moment thats the thing i was searching for. Thanks all people for your replys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuborn Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 just released a psypack with tons of midi basslines + arppeggios n riffs to get some inspiration going which you may want to check out! heres the link! enjoy! http://www.dancemidisamples.com/Nuborn-Psytrance-MIDI.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negrosex Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Try not using the arpeggiator for everything and you will soon realise that creating melodies and harmonies, maby tied for 1st place with creating rythms, can be one of the most compelling parts of making music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Try not using the arpeggiator for everything and you will soon realise that creating melodies and harmonies, maby tied for 1st place with creating rythms, can be one of the most compelling parts of making music. +1 oh shit this is a psytrance site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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