Goa Bill Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 After i was exposed by some excellent IDM and Ambient by the likes ISAN, Trentemoller, Pete Namlook, Ulrich Schnauss and some more i have reached the conclusion that the current Chill releases from Psy labels are nothing but shite. And that excludes the likes of Twisted, Aleph Zero and Interchill that still have some sort of a quality control over their releases. I know i am being too negative and all, but please, stop releasing psy trance with half the speed. It takes more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I tend to agree. There are some exceptions, or course - a track here and there - but yeah, it all starts to blend together after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 While I admittedly don't know anything about psy labels, I can't imagine any of them are so big they would have the ability to dictate what their artists' music sounds like. I'd be suprised if any electronic labels could do that, let alone labels that cater to an obscure subgenre like psytrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 With psychill you mean chill using a psytrance-like sounds? Then I mostly agree with you, except from a few projects , such as Galaxy.... Â But you should exclude Ultimae Records ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 While I admittedly don't know anything about psy labels, I can't imagine any of them are so big they would have the ability to dictate what their artists' music sounds like. I'd be suprised if any electronic labels could do that, let alone labels that cater to an obscure subgenre like psytrance. 628811[/snapback] Well, it's not so much that the labels dictate sound, but rather, it's a genre, and therefore most artists conform to the sound of the genre all by themselves. And that sound is, well, boring, especially in comparison to a lot of the other genres that are doing something similarly, yet more dynamically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETOX Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Please dont ever mention Namlook and Schnauss again on this forum. Â We are simply not worthy to speak about them. Â Lets open a couple more Skazi threads to have something to speak about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40813&hl= Â http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=39893 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa Bill Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 While I admittedly don't know anything about psy labels, I can't imagine any of them are so big they would have the ability to dictate what their artists' music sounds like. I'd be suprised if any electronic labels could do that, let alone labels that cater to an obscure subgenre like psytrance. 628811[/snapback] There are labels that dictate their artists their sound. Check Shift and Paranormal Attack before Chemical Crew and after. Â Â With psychill you mean chill using a psytrance-like sounds? Then I mostly agree with you, except from a few projects , such as Galaxy.... Â But you should exclude Ultimae Records ... 628814[/snapback] Ultimae is not a psy label. I was referring to labels that release Psy Trance and Chill-Out albums/compilations with tracks by Psy Trance artists. Â Please dont ever mention Namlook and Schnauss again on this forum. Â We are simply not worthy to speak about them. Â Lets open a couple more Skazi threads to have something to speak about. 628816[/snapback] Yea for a minute there i forgot that it's PSYnews. And since only Psy Trance is Psychedelic we shouldn't discuss Namlook here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 i have reached the conclusion that the current Chill releases from Psy labels are nothing but shite. 628800[/snapback] http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=41455 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa Bill Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=41455 628822[/snapback] Ultimae is not a Psy Trance label. Beh. I am not that fond of yawnbient. It's cool, but i can't hear it more than 10 minutes before i lose patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Another exception is : ELECTRYPNOSE - SUBLIMINAL MELANCHOLIES although released on psy label far, far away from 'psychill' , more like chill/ambient with IDM influences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 After i was exposed by some excellent IDM and Ambient by the likes ISAN, Trentemoller, Pete Namlook, Ulrich Schnauss and some more i have reached the conclusion that the current Chill releases from Psy labels are nothing but shite. And that excludes the likes of Twisted, Aleph Zero and Interchill that still have some sort of a quality control over their releases. I know i am being too negative and all, but please, stop releasing psy trance with half the speed. It takes more than that. 628800[/snapback] Pete Namlook is WOW... did you check out old Mixmaster Morris stuff?! Look for some stuff from him... i bet you would love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolsk Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I know i am being too negative and all, but please, stop releasing psy trance with half the speed. It takes more than that. 628800[/snapback] Since psytrance suck it's no wonder that "psy trance with half the speed" also sucks. Â Any way, I can only agree. I strongly dislike the ethnic new age crap that is labeled as psy chill these days. Â Native State Records is one of the most interesting labels right now, try them. A lot more interesting then Interchill and Aleph Zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Pete Namlook is WOW... did you check out old Mixmaster Morris stuff?! Look for some stuff from him... i bet you would love it 628831[/snapback] Namlook/Morris stuff is pretty snoozy too. Dreamfish? Zzzzzz. Namlook/Move D, on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolsk Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Pete Namlook is WOW... did you check out old Mixmaster Morris stuff?! Look for some stuff from him... i bet you would love it 628831[/snapback] It's Tomorrow Already is an excellent Mixmaster Morris album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 It's Tomorrow Already is an excellent Mixmaster Morris album! 628867[/snapback] That is Irrisistible Force! http://www.discogs.com/release/240618 this one rawks as well... collaboration style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Dreams Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 After i was exposed by some excellent IDM and Ambient by the likes ISAN, Trentemoller, Pete Namlook, Ulrich Schnauss and some more i have reached the conclusion that the current Chill releases from Psy labels are nothing but shite. And that excludes the likes of Twisted, Aleph Zero and Interchill that still have some sort of a quality control over their releases. I know i am being too negative and all, but please, stop releasing psy trance with half the speed. It takes more than that. 628800[/snapback] true. with such a large number of releases, music is becoming so damn predictable when you buy a cd. I think im losing my taste in this whole downtempo/psy chill shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Namlook/Morris stuff is pretty snoozy too. Dreamfish? Zzzzzz. Â Namlook/Move D, on the other hand... 628839[/snapback] There is an occaision for all types of chill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolsk Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 That is Irrisistible Force! http://www.discogs.com/release/240618 this one rawks as well... collaboration style 628871[/snapback] Mixmaster Morris = The Irresistible Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/sfb/sfb1cd002.html  best chill of the year.. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 There is an occaision for all types of chill 628873[/snapback] True. Although some occasions are shorter than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 "psy chill sucks" Â it sure does...the term yawnbient is excellent for describing 90% of those releases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 "psy chill sucks" Â it sure does...the term yawnbient is excellent for describing 90% of those releases... 628927[/snapback] that's how i would call the last Entheogenic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Some of that stuff is like.. all sounds, no music. It might be good technically, but the music itself often sounds superficial and overdone to my ears... though I'm sure there are exceptions  Take the almighty Global Communication - 76:14 from 1994... and tell me if anything from the chilled-downtempo-trance-psybient style could beat that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 True. Although some occasions are shorter than others. 628907[/snapback] i love to fall asleep to Dreamfish for instance, it really gives me a nice feeling, and I have awsome dreams on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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