Time_Trap Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Some of that stuff is like.. all sounds, no music. It might be good technically, but the music itself often sounds superficial and overdone to my ears... though I'm sure there are exceptions Take the almighty Global Communication - 76:14 from 1994... and tell me if anything from the chilled-downtempo-trance-psybient style could beat that. 628978[/snapback] I would prefer to listen to Global Communication but I think a comparison is wrong. Although there's one album that stands out in the psy-chill genre, Galaxy - Angel. Also Downhill - Silent City (delta sideproject) (very different from the standard 'psychill').. Same with Electrypnose - Subliminal Melancholies. Quote
Towelie Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Yeah theres too many half baked Chill on this Chill on that compilations.. every once in a while you find a good track but, everything is so recycled like that one indian vocal sample every artist has to make a track with it.. every time i hear it i skip the track Quote
Bahamut Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 I would prefer to listen to Global Communication but I think a comparison is wrong. 628984[/snapback] ok, maybe you can't make a good comparison.. I can't help but comparing because the music does share certain similarities Quote
Time_Trap Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 ok, maybe you can't make a good comparison.. I can't help but comparing because the music does share certain similarities 628990[/snapback] yes I see your point.. try to listen to the 3 albums I mentioned above and tell me what you think Quote
Bahamut Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 try to listen to the 3 albums I mentioned above and tell me what you think 628992[/snapback] thx I'll check it out Quote
Krell Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 After i was exposed by some excellent IDM and Ambient by the likes ISAN, Trentemoller, Pete Namlook, Ulrich Schnauss and some more i have reached the conclusion that the current Chill releases from Psy labels are nothing but shite. And that excludes the likes of Twisted, Aleph Zero and Interchill that still have some sort of a quality control over their releases. I know i am being too negative and all, but please, stop releasing psy trance with half the speed. It takes more than that. 628800[/snapback] You should get to work on a "Approved by Pavel" sticker. As far as Im concerned, if people want to invest a lot of their hard earned cash into music they love, in order to release it onto the market, its their freedom to do so. When we start to dictate what they can, and cannot release, what we end up with in the end is R&B or whatever crap the mainstream wants. Im very happy you choose to mention something you do like however, theres so much "this sucks bla bla" going on, without anyone taking the time to mention what they DO like then. No matter what, I wonder if you will still like the, for you, new stuff as much when you have been listening to it for ages... or if that will also just be shit, which you will then again so profoundly announce :-) For me. 90% of ALL music is shit - Still, in some instances, its not 90% shit all the time - Since when something sounds new and fresh, I have a tendency towards being less picky about music - but - after having listened through a certain amount of it, Im back at 90%, then 95% etc. - Krell Quote
Goa Bill Posted October 28, 2006 Author Posted October 28, 2006 You should get to work on a "Approved by Pavel" sticker. As far as Im concerned, if people want to invest a lot of their hard earned cash into music they love, in order to release it onto the market, its their freedom to do so. When we start to dictate what they can, and cannot release, what we end up with in the end is R&B or whatever crap the mainstream wants. Im very happy you choose to mention something you do like however, theres so much "this sucks bla bla" going on, without anyone taking the time to mention what they DO like then. No matter what, I wonder if you will still like the, for you, new stuff as much when you have been listening to it for ages... or if that will also just be shit, which you will then again so profoundly announce :-) For me. 90% of ALL music is shit - Still, in some instances, its not 90% shit all the time - Since when something sounds new and fresh, I have a tendency towards being less picky about music - but - after having listened through a certain amount of it, Im back at 90%, then 95% etc. - Krell 629001[/snapback] This reply was approved by Pavel ( according to Psy Chill Standards PSYSO9000) Quote
abasio Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/sfb/sfb1cd002.html best chill of the year.. IMO 628888[/snapback] Very good choice. One of my favourite chill releases also. It's different. I admit a lot of psy chill nowadays can sound samey but that comes from too many people trying to sound like whoever was popular before. Still there has been some good releases this year. Androcell - Effloresence Downbeat Liquid vol 1 Relaxed Journeys Kuba - Inside out Jikkenteki - The Long Walk Home (Revelations & Moments of Clarity) For me have all been superb Quote
Shaft Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 I have to agree a lot of the psychill is formulaic, but you get that with many releases. I've probably overdosed myself with chill last year and while I'm still into it I'm not snapping up releases left right and center. It's hard to find innovation these days and that's my biggest concern, not that music isn't good, it's that music isn't different any more. Quote
Snapinho Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 After i was exposed by some excellent IDM and Ambient by the likes ISAN, Trentemoller, Pete Namlook, Ulrich Schnauss and some more i have reached the conclusion that the current Chill releases from Psy labels are nothing but shite. And that excludes the likes of Twisted, Aleph Zero and Interchill that still have some sort of a quality control over their releases. I know i am being too negative and all, but please, stop releasing psy trance with half the speed. It takes more than that. 628800[/snapback] amen brother, amen. Quote
Krell Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 This reply was approved by Pavel ( according to Psy Chill Standards PSYSO9000) 629007[/snapback] YaY, me so happy :-) - Krell Quote
Snapinho Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Once upon a time, there was Mystery of the Yeti ... (skip forward) ... then there was Shpongle..... (skip forward) ... then there was Entheogenic ... (freeze frame) ... then everybody sounded alike. Basically psychill is the chillout genre that originated from goa/psytrance. Very recognizable, lots of ethnic samples, instruments, beats are a lot alike, etc. etc. You know it when you hear it. I guess. Quote
Goa Bill Posted October 28, 2006 Author Posted October 28, 2006 Once upon a time, there was Mystery of the Yeti ... (skip forward) ... then there was Shpongle..... (skip forward) ... then there was Entheogenic ... (freeze frame) ... then everybody sounded alike. Basically psychill is the chillout genre that originated from goa/psytrance. Very recognizable, lots of ethnic samples, instruments, beats are a lot alike, etc. etc. You know it when you hear it. I guess. 629148[/snapback] There were some very nice releases in between. But it's pretty stale in the last 2 years. Quote
Snapinho Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 There were some very nice releases in between. But it's pretty stale in the last 2 years. 629162[/snapback] Of course there were, that's what the dots stand for. But yes, it has gotten stale, most acts seem to have run out of creativity. We need new influences! More crossover, more eclecticism! Look the other way, check out some funk, hiphop, psychedelic rock, breakbeats, reggae, soul, clicks and cuts, turntablism, atmospheric stuff, whatever. But please: innovate!! Quote
Goa Bill Posted October 28, 2006 Author Posted October 28, 2006 Of course there were, that's what the dots stand for. But yes, it has gotten stale, most acts seem to have run out of creativity. We need new influences! More crossover, more eclecticism! Look the other way, check out some funk, hiphop, psychedelic rock, breakbeats, reggae, soul, clicks and cuts, turntablism, atmospheric stuff, whatever. But please: innovate!! 629166[/snapback] Word! And get rid of these Indian chanting Sample CDS. In Reger's immortal words: OLD Quote
Snapinho Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 Word! And get rid of these Indian chanting Sample CDS. In Reger's immortal words: OLD 629168[/snapback] Hahaha, yeah, that's my main source of irritation. Allow me to quote myself: this album is a good example of what's wrong with psychill these days. Quote
Otto Matta Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 i love to fall asleep to Dreamfish for instance, it really gives me a nice feeling, and I have awsome dreams on it 628981[/snapback] I fell asleep to Eno's Shutov Assembly last night. It was blissful. Quote
furthur Posted October 28, 2006 Posted October 28, 2006 In my opinion, it is all very simple. Any genre when listened to too much becomes boring. But the same genre in small quantities (provided those small quantities include the quality end of the spectrum) rocks. Quote
Forest Dreams Posted October 29, 2006 Posted October 29, 2006 In my opinion, it is all very simple. Any genre when listened to too much becomes boring. But the same genre in small quantities (provided those small quantities include the quality end of the spectrum) rocks. 629234[/snapback] its sad... but true. Imo, just when you begin exploring a genre of music is the best time. every bit of music you buy or collect exites you, but as you tend to listen/collect more and more of it, the exitement and appreciation seems to fade away. and the older stuff always seems more creative than the newer. Quote
healium Posted October 29, 2006 Posted October 29, 2006 I'd say the new Androcell and Entheogenic albums are the worst offenders here - the second half of the "Relaxed Journey's" comp too... Entheogenic in particular is just so generic sounding... I agree - down with all the tribal/ethnic/chanting/indian woman stuff.. And the Terence Mckenna samples too... Way overdone... Here's some exceptions - some of my favorites: * Bluetech - Elementary Particles and Prima Materia * Ott - Blumenkraft & Hallucinogen in Dub *Chilling Matenda - Mediteran (fuckin excellent!) * Shulman - In Search of a Meaningful Moment * Abakus - One Step Closer to the Sun * Autechre - Incunabula * Jean Michael-Jarre - Equinox I haven't heard many of the albums recommended above (Electrypnose is on it's way though) but I'm eager to hear something original... Quote
healium Posted October 29, 2006 Posted October 29, 2006 Otto - I listened to the "Shutov Assembly" the other night too - only the second time I listened to it - blissful indeed... Quote
Goa Bill Posted October 29, 2006 Author Posted October 29, 2006 In my opinion, it is all very simple. Any genre when listened to too much becomes boring. But the same genre in small quantities (provided those small quantities include the quality end of the spectrum) rocks. 629234[/snapback] BTW, i heard Kukan-Dub-Lagan a month ago live and i've totally changed my mind about his music. It's quite ok Quote
Krell Posted October 29, 2006 Posted October 29, 2006 BTW, i heard Kukan-Dub-Lagan a month ago live and i've totally changed my mind about his music. It's quite ok 629352[/snapback] Will it get the sticker ? Has it been certified ? :-) - Krell Quote
amphiton Posted October 29, 2006 Posted October 29, 2006 Trentemoeller isn't idm. Isan and Schnauss are old. it's like discovering Hallucinogen or Shpongle 10 years after ))) Quote
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