toza Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I was googling around the net (searching for a cheap midi controllers with the price around 100-160e) and I found M-Audio Keystation 49e. It's pretty cheap. Does anyone have this keyboard and what expirience do you have with it? And is it better to buy M-Audio Key.49e or Oxygen 8. M-Audio is 115e and the Oxygen is 150e? And one more tihng! Would those two midi con. work good with an SB Live 5.1 soundcard? Thanks in advance!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike A Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 get 2nd hand if you want cheap since it'll suck anyway, it really doesn't matter if it's new or 2nd hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I have a keystation 49e as my first controller and it's a nice piece of kit, but I'd go for something that has faders/rotaries built into it - great for tweaking live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toza Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 I have a keystation 49eOk. Now I'm interested in latency. Does it depend of keyboard or sound card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalki Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Ok. Now I'm interested in latency. Does it depend of keyboard or sound card? 641776[/snapback] on ur pcn soundcard setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Ok. Now I'm interested in latency. Does it depend of keyboard or sound card? 641776[/snapback] I use a mac right out of the box so I couldn't answer on pc hardware. The keyboard is pretty responsive though, you should be fine. And it should work with all soundcards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toza Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 Ok, thanks! I also found Korg K49. What do you think about this model? The price is around 145 euros! Is it better than Keystation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I haven't tried it... But definitely go for something with onboard sliders/rotaries etc, it makes life a lot easier than tweaking with your mouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 dont buy something cheap. get something like the novation remote sl. it truly rocks, and is soooo easy to customize for your needs. Just save up another 250 euros, and you can have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 dont buy something cheap. get something like the novation remote sl. it truly rocks, and is soooo easy to customize for your needs. Just save up another 250 euros, and you can have one 643727[/snapback] Yeah, definitely worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toza Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Nemo , I'm not so good with keyboards. I'm smthg like a keyboard noob. This would be my first keyboard, so I don't want to spend much money on it. I asked for Korg K49(the model which price is around 140euros). Can anyone tell me smthg about that keyborad(if you have it)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I have a Korg MicroKONTROL, it works for me, it has 8 faders, 8 dials, and 16 buttons on a pad. The problem is the tiny keys. Though I usually dont use it to play, just sequence. The 16 button pad is handy for triggering loops in Ableton, though I havent used it much in Renoise, which is what Ive been using. The faders and dials can be set up in 128 different presets, ie one for each softsynth, then one for the master mixing board, etc. I havent had the chance to use it to its fullest yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Nemo , I'm not so good with keyboards. I'm smthg like a keyboard noob. This would be my first keyboard, so I don't want to spend much money on it. I asked for Korg K49(the model which price is around 140euros). Can anyone tell me smthg about that keyborad(if you have it)? 644538[/snapback] sorry, I dont have it. do you have a music shop that you can go to and get a demo? its always usefull to get a demo of the product you intend to buy, so you know what you get.. and what youre limitations will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toza Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yes nemo! I just did that today. I went to the store and I didn't get a demo but I tried it myself!!! The keys are great! This controller offers 2 knobs, slider pitch-mod wheels, 2 assinable buttons, and it has 49 keys(the keys are full sized) and also there are octave buttons(octave up/down)!!! I think it is a best buy for that money(145euros). I hope I'm not wrong 'cause I like it very much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11:11 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 You definitely have to try it out yourself, before you decide on buying it but that goes for all sort of audio equipment. As for latency... it all depends on your soundcard, I think. The keyboard will send MIDI data to your machine, and the time it takes to process them depends on what sort of hardware you got. Or you are using the keyboard through USB and in that case I have no idea how latency issues change. Happy musicmaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 You definitely have to try it out yourself, before you decide on buying it but that goes for all sort of audio equipment. As for latency... it all depends on your soundcard, I think. The keyboard will send MIDI data to your machine, and the time it takes to process them depends on what sort of hardware you got. Or you are using the keyboard through USB and in that case I have no idea how latency issues change. Happy musicmaking 646055[/snapback] use an usb keyboard, you wont have any latency issues... i own m-audio keystation 49e, its cheap, its good, no proplems so far but i have a behringer bcr2000 aswell, with which i do all the tweaking of the synths as the keyboard has no encoders and stuff.. buying them togehter is pretty cheap and imo a great solution peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11:11 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 On a second thought... probably most sound cards capable of midi today, is built to the lowest possible latency... so it shouldn't be such a big problem. I don't really know, I only have experience with usb connected midi keyboards. I own an m-audio axiom 25 and it works fine, almost unnoticable midi latency. I do miss some analog knobs, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toza Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Thanks for advice! I bought Korg K49! For now I'm very pleased how it works!!! The keys are great, and the pitch and mod whells aswell. I would recommand it to anyone!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechNology Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 how much did u pay for the korg ?? i whant to by a midi controller too i was looking for novatation x-station? is that a good choice?? X-Station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toza Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 X station is nice! I paid 145 euros for korg K49. How much is the x-station? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechNology Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 its about $500 (kod nas oko 2500kn, neznam u eurima ) it is expensive so i will see...and how abot m-audios?? anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11:11 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 how abot m-audios?? anyone 648443[/snapback] I have the axiom-25, and it's a great one, my only problem with it is it's a bit big. I can still put it into my backpack next to my laptop and go play music with them, but only the cables fit into it nothing else. So if you are looking for something slim, the O2 should be better... but you don't get pads... and those are pretty good, I love them. Very useful and fun... you can assign them to drums, percussion, even one-shot soundeffects, or to audio effect buttons. Ah and the knobs are digital, which means they send + or - information. For example, if the knob is set to 0 position, and you connect it to a parameter which is at setting 64, then when you move the knob, it will suddenly change to 1, than 2, 3 ... and so on. You have to keep this in mind if you (like me), keep reconfiguring the knobs while you play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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