How Do you Spin??

[Guest cane]

I wait untile the song starts winding down before i mix in the next song.

I wait untill the last minuste or so of songA and mix in song B pretty much from the beginning of the track, beatmixing the kik drum. So basically its the end of one track mixing with the beginning of another track. I do this with both fullon and techno/minimal styles. How do you guys do it? what your opinions?

[Strumpling]

It may be hard to do this live (I don't spin....) , but it's always coolest when I hear sounds from the next song near the beginning of the first....... hell, sounds from song 3 or 4 in song 1 always impresses me (as long as it's not TOO much, just a "hint," ya know?)

 

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-

[Tatsu]

that sounds very cool stumpling but i think that i never heard someone spin like that. or maybe i just haven't noticed. when i spin at home i do beatmixing most of all (i spin melodic goa but also trance and house) and i try to mix in the second song before the main part of the first song is over. so that the two records are playing together for a while and the first song gets to the outro when the second one has the intro finnished and starts to really kick in. sometimes i also take the bass from the first track out because with some goa it doesn't not sound good when two basses play together.

[Guest p0ke]

Strumpling i think i known what you mean, i sometimes try to do that, i also like to use two breaks in one, for example, one track with a voice sample over the real break. Its kinda hard to do it so it sounds good but i try

Antoher thing i just love is when you find to seprate tracks that can be played like 3-4 minutes on top of eachother so get a completely new track, thats a thing cant do very offent, but it works... sometimes, but what the heck i´m a newbie on this area.

Well i havnt been spinning much and i only lplay at very small parties for friends, sinc ei dont have any equipment, i dont have many chances for practising, but i known my tracks and i known how to make a journey, if there are anyone who would like to hear where i´m at, you can just mail me, i would love some feedback !

 

Cheers p0ke-1-kenobi

[Guest akira]

It really depends on your style and also who you're playing to (dance floor, trippers, outdoors, indoors, who played before you, after you etc). The style you use is very effective for getting that 'travelling' feel...if it's done properly you feel like as one songs coming to a close the next is picking you up and carrying you along. Personally because I play mostly at raves with many other styles of music you constantly have to worry about the dance floor so keeping a constant beat is important. But if you're working up to the peak of your set I guess it doesn't really matter, as long as the mix flows well.

[Guest kingdok]

The flow is what I'm currently struggling with, especially when mixing psy/goa tracks that aren't nearly as predicatble as clubbier trance tracks. At least with those you're guaranteed about 30 seconds of outro beats. That, and the kicks are usually clearer and less muddied by layer upon layer of sound. I have increased respect for psy/goa DJs, knowing it to be far less "DJ friendly."

 

Minimal psy, for me anyway, is less difficult to mix. There's less going on in the track so it's easier for my untrained ear to hear/line up the kicks precisely. Minimal tracks also tend to go with other minimal tracks well, wheras full-on/melodic tracks aren't as compatible with other full-on/melodic (conflicting melodies). This being the case, I'll sometimes use minimal tracks as "bridges" between melodic tracks. Caution : this technique, depending on how drasticly different your music is, can be very anticlimactic. I do it because I'm a lazy bedroom DJ with no live audience. I've wanted to box the ears of DJs who go from some hyper-gorgeous melodic killer to...I dunno, Necton. That kind of thing is always a real let-down.

 

Then there's the part of me who thinks : @!#$ it. I'd go to hear this stuff on a big system even if it WASN'T mixed.

[Guest psy604]

I mix minimal very long over each other and I try to make it more interesting as it is. Full-on stuff, like Tim Schuldt, I mix not so long maybe 1 minute or so. And by mixing melodic stuff, I try to avoid that two melodies are playing at the same time.

But I always try to mix a easy beginning of a record over a more heavy piece of the previous trax, so I try to avoid boring peaces in my set.

I heard many psy-dj's not beat mixing or not mixing long enough or they only mix the last 16 beats with the first 16, or mixing the intro withouth beat over the ending with or withouth beat. And I just don't like that. You hear than every song from the beginning till the end, so you hear a easy part, it starts lifting up and then you get again a death part and again uplifting etc..

I like it more when I can say now I want an easy part maybe two songs or so and than I starts playing more uplifting music and than some killers, withouth death parts between the tracks.

 

But this is how I see mixing, I also respect the other dj's their way of mixing.

[Guest dam10n]

I think we should be glad we can at least -discuss- this topic.

I've got nothing against other styles of music, but at least with psy you get the choice and the dilemma of how to mix the tunes.

Paul Van Dyk never has this problem!

 

It means that for say house or club trance, everything has to be very formulaic, whereas we have the freedom to do whatever we want.

[Guest Bugbread]

Personally, I can't mix (er, I can't beatmatch), but I prefer parties where there are sections with no drums, just sounds. Having a drum beat run continuously for several hours really drains the energy of the drum out. So I like artists who segue into the trippy intro and extro sections and do their mixing there. It makes the trippy sounds trippier and it makes the drums seem more energetic when they come in.

[Guest AtomicCow]

The DJ is not there to showcase records. You are there to create something interesting and danceable so I think mixing intro to outro is pretty boring. Just take the part of the tune that suits you the most and keep it for 3-4 minutes especially with minimal where it gets really boring really quickly. And try to be creative with your mixing. Cutting back and forth between two tunes. Mixing tune B into tune A then have them play together then take out B and mix C into A. Stuff like that.

[Guest Elysium Project]

puuurrrhhhhhh ?

[Guest JanUa]

around......?