exotic Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 When i started out listening to psytrance i used to dig the bassline more than the melodious content in the music but gradually i realised that its the melody in the track which gives it the structure not to say the bassline aint important. Whats your pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyGoatDelic Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I've voted for bassline, no matter how good will be the melody, I can't hook up with the track unless there is a good bassline! and I'm not talking about shitty fullon/dark bassline! I quite enjoy complex basslines when there is no melody at all and only some sfx along with the basslines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drosophila Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I voted duh?? Since for me its really difficult to say if one element of a one complex structure is more important than another element of another complex structure... it all depends on the context and the artists skills... some make melodies that bends and twists your mind while others does the same with complex power full bass lines or a combination of both.... or it could be something totally different that puts u on or off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riton Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Id have to go with bassline... but for instance Tikal - Breath (the remix from the bamboo forest track) has the crappiest bassline IMHO but i love the track! cheeze0r! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I voted both, if a track has both, its a stunning track, if a track has one good and one bad... i cant be bothered. If the bassline is OK and the melody SUPER its also nice. A bassline can REALLY destroy a track for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 both, it's the concept that is important, the know how of creating a good baseline and let the melodies perfectly f loath with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 For me it's the the melodies all the way! I do notice if a track has an especially nice bassline but what I love about goa/psy (or music in general) are the melody layers. Maybe it's because I come from the trance side of music and what moves me most with trance too are the melodies. I'm a sucker for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 For me it's the the melodies all the way! I do notice if a track has an especially nice bassline but what I love about goa/psy (or music in general) are the melody layers. Maybe it's because I come from the trance side of music and what moves me most with trance too are the melodies. I'm a sucker for them! Same here. Remember the long-winded discussion/argument with EP about this very subject? He was adamant basslines were what made psy so appealing and couldn't accept that some people preferred the melodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Same here. Remember the long-winded discussion/argument with EP about this very subject? He was adamant basslines were what made psy so appealing and couldn't accept that some people preferred the melodies. I only vaguely remember to be honest, there were far worse discussions I had with him, probably per PM though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Both. I fully agree with nemo's statement... But there is also so much more to the music than bassline and melody : effects, samples, harmonies, intros and outros, everything is inlcuded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insejn Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I agree with Nemo. I love the simple note change in Shift's - 10th Day bassline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drosophila Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 But there is also so much more to the music than bassline and melody : effects, samples, harmonies, intros and outros, everything is inlcuded. Exactly... thats why I would never narrow my liking of music down to either melodies or bass lines.... but off course a melody or bass line can ruin a track for me if I really don't like them, but its still not same that a bass line or melody makes me like a track... that is the track as a whole, with all its elements! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytimeofmylife Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 both, with a bit of ephasis on the melody melody is the part in trance I like the most, but i can't listen to a song which has a bassline I dont like Or even worse, which has a bassline that's too simple (or too shitty) like i've said, the melody has driven me into trance, but the bass is keeping me there. I also love all sorts of drums, or songs which contain different kinds of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixiejanet Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I love melody....If music gets too chunky and bass-ie i get bored and have to find something else to do.....as Baraka found out once...oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I voted duh?? becasue I didn't know what to vote for! I love the beat the most but everything is important & it 'S the combination of everything that makes a track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytimeofmylife Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I voted duh?? becasue I didn't know what to vote for! I love the beat the most but everything is important & it 'S the combination of everything that makes a track! i agree with you. but, what actually does 'duh' stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 i agree with you. but, what actually does 'duh' stand for? People use it for different things but it is the sound of a dunce (very low intelligence person) when trying to think but can't understand duuuuuhhhhhhh..... people now say it sarcastically to show that what someone has just said is stupi/obvious eg A. You know radi likes hallucinogen B. Well Duh!! edit: I used it to indicate that I was a dunce because I couldn't choose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exotic Posted April 6, 2007 Author Share Posted April 6, 2007 Well obviously there's much more to a track than just bassline and melody : fx's , harmonies, outro intro etc but the key components are bassline and melody right ? What i was asking is what makes it or breaks it for you i.e the bassline or the melody .. maybe i didnt make it too clear in my first post but now you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Sometimes I dig the bassline more and sometimes the melody. It depends. When I listen to Matenda - Bonaca I dig the bassline, when I listen to S-Range - On A Mission I dig the melody. Overall I might say I'm a bit more of a sucker for basslines though. But a track consists of far more than that - samples and effects and all that. And there are tracks that basically have neither a realy good melody nor a really good bassline (IMO) and I'm enjoying them more than anything else - best example is Noma - Soon So I voted both. But it still takes more than one or both of those elements to make a good track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo void Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 duh... composition! its how the melody and bassline and other stuff all fit together... if you take a great bassline and shit melody it makes a shitty track... if you take a great melody and a shit bassline it makes it crap... besides, why can't the melody BE carried AS the bassline anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drosophila Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 duh... composition! its how the melody and bassline and other stuff all fit together... if you take a great bassline and shit melody it makes a shitty track... if you take a great melody and a shit bassline it makes it crap... besides, why can't the melody BE carried AS the bassline anyways? I agree on that! It would be the same if I liked a woman because of their long legs, big breasts or both... There are more to than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 The best IMO is when the bass and melody join together to make a single coherent sound. If the bass of a tune isn't well made, and the melody is, it sounds unfinished. But a melody is not a necessity, plenty of trance out there is more like, IMO, pure psychedelic noises to dance to, not necessarily musical. Like Cosmo, his stuff is good, and VERY psychedelic (IMO!!), but no melodies. Thats not the point of Cosmo-type stuff (as so many seem to misunderstand). The point of that, is psychedelic dance music. All that requires is a clean sound, crazy noises, and percussion. "Look elsewhere for melodies! We're tripping here!" You get what I mean. But, any producer worth their releases can make a clean bass almost as an afterthought. They don't need to spend time thinking about it too much. Then they can focus on making the melody perfect! Or making the strange noises bouncing everywhere perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pants-on-u-head Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I voted bassline That's what you dance to - the melodies are for ur head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 what a worthy thread? melody, bassline or BOTH perhaps? I haven't even read any of the replies but for the love of my psychic skills lemme make a guess: "bassline won't make a track on it's own. neither does melody. you need BOTH to make a good track" "bassline won't make a track on it's own. neither does melody. you need BOTH to make a good track""+1!" "+1!""make that two. you definitely need BOTH for the job." "I disagree, only the melody is really important. Even with bad bassline a good melody makes a track!" "I disagree, only the melody is really important. Even with bad bassline a good melody makes a track!""yeah but wouldn't it be even better if BOTH of em were brilliant?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pants-on-u-head Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I don't think you need both - I can dance to a groovy bassline all night long - the melodies are there for brain foood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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