Malevol3nt Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 edit: And Goa Trance isn't a sub-genre of psychedelic trance, it's in the reversed order. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I love it all, but more and less on different days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogi Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I love it all... even though some dark psy makes me feel bad sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I hate that housey full on with soft and very clear basslines with ultra chessy melodies its just unberable, psychedelic my ass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajek Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I can't stand formularity, lack of any musical knowledge (this is aimed mainly at the worst dark psy artists), lack of originality, lack of _an edge that would make a specific track worth listening, remembering and maybe even listening again... Â But actually I like music. Trance too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlancer Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I really don't mind any... sure there are good and bad releases... but it all depends on my mood... I think the worst thing about this scene is shitty negative discussion like this that just bring negative vibes and payout on the artists... I'd like to see half of you come up with ahalf decent track otherwise you opinion is a :wank: Maybe the wosth thing is people who bring negative vibes with saying that these discussions bring negative vibes. What? Can't we have an opinion? Â I don't have to make music in order to critisize it. I can critisize it as much as i want :posford: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 israeli full on with those cheesy melodies and some dark psy which causes an immediate headache.  Some dark psy producers realy dont have a clue about how to make music i dont want to mention names. yes, same here cheesy full on is on top of my hate list - although I don't hate all full on, thre is some good out there, but most of it today is cheesy and crap  although today I got reminded that there's some darkpsy out there that can also get very monotonous and dull over time ... but still, I prefer the dull darkpsy a hundred times over cheese full on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I can't stand formularity, lack of any musical knowledge (this is aimed mainly at the worst dark psy artists), lack of originality, lack of _an edge that would make a specific track worth listening, remembering and maybe even listening again... Â But actually I like music. Trance too. Same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Maybe the wosth thing is people who bring negative vibes with saying that these discussions bring negative vibes. What? Can't we have an opinion? Â I don't have to make music in order to critisize it. I can critisize it as much as i want :posford: Sure, but there seem to be some people here who just critisize to be trendy (by far NOT all that post here, mind you). Like saying stuff in way of "most of today's psytrance suck" while they are recommending me nice (and cheesy) full-on tracks when off the forum. And this is kinda making me laugh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I don't understand what it is that so many of you have against darkpsy. It's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlieNed Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 agree wit sawfly ,anythin has some good or bad i like full on , specially neo full on that is diffrent from usual full on kind , i just dont like then full on loose any borders so it make u wonder wot the heck r u listning , thout its psy trance but it sound like some tiesto crap ( some tracks sound too close to tiesto style so u can not hear any diffrence but only some tracks ) anyway i wud prefer full on instaed of dark psy or minimal or progressive (exept maybe scandinavian artists like son kite , ticon , vibrasphere ) Â anyway Skazi can beat them all easily , he is the best ! master of psy ! hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa Bill Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I don't understand what it is that so many of you have against darkpsy. It's great!There's a paradox in this sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D N H Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I think Psychedelic Goa Trance is Psychedelic Goa Trance. It is taking different shapes or becoming innovative as the years are passing, but the spirit remains the same or better it should remain the same. But it didn't (mostly). The evolution is the sign of life, you cannot listen only to the sound of '96. And for sure we can find examples of irreproachable evolution. Â It is a trip beyond fantasy, beyond space and time, without any frontiers. Travelling without moving. A whole unknown world instantly absorbed you. Atmosphere - Mentality - Spirituality - Sofistication - Mysteriousness. It is like when i am not in mood for anything and especially to listen to music, but suddenly a goa vibe forming in the horizon and everything is changed and my spirit is high diving. Â So cheesy or pop melodies, fluffy sounds, just a bassline and some fx, and negative black oppressive stuff (i do not mean dark) cannot be Psychedelic Goa Trance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D N H Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (Atmosphere - Mentality - Spirituality - Sofistication - Mysteriousness) Â hmm...to give an example of my thinking...there 2 tracks that come in my mind right now that i like very much are from The Delta - Send In ...Send Back album, Standby and Def By Delta Part 2. Tech combined with neoclassical passages and atmospheres under an influencing mysterious composition, and the whole result is so Psychedelic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppA Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I think Psychedelic Goa Trance is Psychedelic Goa Trance. It is taking different shapes or becoming innovative as the years are passing, but the spirit remains the same or better it should remain the same. But it didn't (mostly). Yes, the evolution is the sign of life, you cannot listen only to the sound of '96. And for sure we can find examples of irreproachable evolution. Â It is a trip beyond fantasy, beyond space and time, without any frontiers. Travelling without moving. A whole unknown world instantly absorbed you. Atmosphere - Mentality - Spituality - Sofistication. It is like when i am not in mood for anything and especially to listen to music. But suddenly a goa vibe forming in the horizon and everything is changed and my spirit is high. Â So i believe cheesy melodies, fluffy sounds, just a bassline and some fx, and evil-satanic stuff (i do not mean dark) are no Psychedelic Goa Trance. You have nice trips. You have bad trips. Â I don't think the latter makes it less psychedelic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xochi Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I herd dark psytrance attracts bears..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppA Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I herd dark psytrance attracts bears.....That's only logical since the combination of the kicks and bass resembles the mating call of a bear... Not only that, but I've heard that certain sounds heard in many darkpsy tracks easily can destroy pavements of certain Bulgarian motorways. Â This is a warning to all of you, don't try this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D N H Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I don't think the latter makes it less psychedelic... Psychedelic is mindtravelling, and yes, mindtravelling into dark landscapes - dark feelings as well. But i think that evil-satanic hateful motives&themes do not harmonize with the whole worldview of Psychedelic. Â ...or that is just my view... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 The question should be: What couple of tracks from what psytrance sub-sub-genre do you tolerate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeller Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 In all subgenres there are nice tracks.. overall i dislike full on and prog the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytimeofmylife Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I think Psychedelic Goa Trance is Psychedelic Goa Trance. It is taking different shapes or becoming innovative as the years are passing, but the spirit remains the same or better it should remain the same. yeah, the first psy or goa track i heard was hallucinogen's -LSD, and I thought I was in *heaven*. Really! One cannot describe the feeling this track gave me  too bad I'm still trying to find the subgenre I like. That's one of (my) biggest problems - (sub)genres... Everything has to be categorized. so, yeah, I like a bit of every genre listed here. And I'm way past Skazi... that's me, my egocentrical me writing about me on the internet. to bad things like egocentrism exist... and offtopicisem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filitico Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I voted dark because I am tired of dark artists relying too much on blasting speakers and neglecting everything else (with some exceptions of course) Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D N H Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 The question should be: What couple of tracks from what psytrance sub-sub-genre do you tolerate?  yeah, the first psy or goa track i heard was hallucinogen's -LSD, and I thought I was in *heaven*. Really! One cannot describe the feeling this track gave me  too bad I'm still trying to find the subgenre I like. That's one of (my) biggest problems - (sub)genres... Everything has to be categorized. so, yeah, I like a bit of every genre listed here. And I'm way past Skazi... that's me, my egocentrical me writing about me on the internet. to bad things like egocentrism exist... and offtopicisem... First of all let me explain that i express only myself, i do not speak on behalf of anyone else. That is forum all about, expressing one's personal views and feelings.  For me either is old/new skool feelings, tech influences, dark landscapes, it is the essence that counts.  I never said that a release or a style is crap or stupid or shit or i hate... Just it is a matter of distinction and differentiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlieNed Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 i cud not belive that tender and beautiful flowers stick to dark psy , they say its powerful and pure psychedelic i wonder y is that dark psy found so much response in womens hearts .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppA Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Psychedelic is mindtravelling, and yes, mindtravelling into dark landscapes - dark feelings as well. But i think that evil-satanic hateful motives&themes do not harmonize with the whole worldview of Psychedelic. Â ...or that is just my view... Sure, if that's your view Though I think that everything can be combined with the term psychedelic. In Scandinavia they did it with forests, with I must say, very very fine results in my taste. It's ofcourse a matter of time before some idiots make a formula out of it, but I'm guessing that it won't happen in the near future, all because of the enormous creative drive it has at the moment. It's just a matter of imagination really, and how you apply it on the creation of the tracks, if there is none, you're bound to go wrong somewhere, and I think in darkpsy it's easier at the moment (because of all the cliches). Though the ones that don't go wrong, go frequently to that one direction that makes everything just right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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