Guest joe Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Honestly, people talk about alien project all the time and theyre getting booked all over the place.. but.. i just cant get past the fact that they just kinda are totally generic and nothing interesting whatsoever.. its so primitive.. occasionally they have the 'good sound' but for the most part it seems like they went to the mall, got one of those cds called "dj goa trance sound effects 2000" and just kinda mundainly organized them. Like when people post a song on here.. 'my first goa song', it could pass as alien project to me. Am i missing something?? they have a few catchy songs but definatly not worth the hype imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rikard Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 .. well thats why they are so popular, like all other popular music (pop music) they have no personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Astral crew Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 So what is really good psytrance for u. Because me I don't have any problem with Alien Project, I really like how it sounds. Specially the last album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest evan Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Hey joe, don't act so funny.. Can't you just understand that so many people may SIMPLY like Alien Project's work? For me it's easy- i like this and i don't like that. I don't have time to think why i don't like some sorts of psytrance. Others get it, i don't - simple. And if you really think that Alien Project sounds like "my first goa song" posted here or made with "dj goa trance sound effects 2000" then you're ignorant in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeff Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I'm with Joe on this one. What's wrong with wanting to know what motivates other people's musical taste ? Okay, maybe Joe was a bit harsh comparing Alien Project works to "my first Goa song", but he did add "Am i missing something?? ". So, evan, your comment about Joe's ignorance is useless, since he precisely wants to know what he's missing ! Help him get rid of this ignorance by explaining why Alien project's music sounds good to you instead of insulting him ! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Psychedelic AllabertA Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I think they sound OK, but their tracks ARE virtually all the same... together with GMS, 1200 mics etc. Maybe It's a good party formula but when I want to seriously listen to something I pop in the new Element CD, anything from AP or old Juno reactor albums... and not Alien Project. For me their music is mainly for full-on parties. Maybe they've figured out the crowd likes it so they keep on doping the same style... But at least I feel a little saturated from that all-the-same full-on sound... Although I'd dance on it on a party... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hallucinogenious Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 why do you like minimal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unikos Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 (ela de.....) i was having this conversation with some people about music nowadays and if its good/bad and why.. this guy said this very interesting thing: i want to go to parties and hear music that sounds "alien" and you get lost in it and is totally unpredictable... i agree with this, all i can say is that most music being played at parties now is very very very predictable (yes im talking about gms phenomena) and is very "earthy".... its not crazy and not psychedelic to my ears....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest konysus krew Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 alien project sounds very nice to me - you should try listening to aztechno dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cactus Shmactus Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Its a fair enough question. The first time I listened to psy trance, I did not like it. After sitting around with a group of psytrance lovers, I started to get a jist of what they found attractive about the music. They kept on saying: "listen to this kick" "listen how this sound twiches in every possible direction." After a while you start tuning your brain, to understand what is nice about the music. Maybe the question as just asking if some one can tell joe what is nice about Alien Project so he can "tune his brain" to it and enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ivan Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 ok then: I dont like the formulas either, but there is deffinetly something about the alien project - astrix sound, its very dynamic in some way, and they have managed to get a very very danceable and jumpy style, ive seen alien project play bad sets (for me) and sometimes very very nice sets (for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest evan Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Why does Alien Project sound good to me? Alien Project has this dynamic touch in every track and that's why i dig it. I simply like the music to go on with the flow, go straight forward pumping. That's the style which speaks to me. Of course it may sound to simple/repetetive to people who are into tech-trance which is more variable. So, maybe that's the reason why joe disqualifies it. I agree with Psychedelic AllabertA on the matter that this kind of music is a good party formula but not only in my opinion. And some words to Jeff.. My comment for sure wasn't useless 'coz joe had clearly written: "it seems like they went to the mall, got one of those cds called "dj goa trance sound effects 2000" and just kinda mundainly organized them. Like when people post a song on here.. 'my first goa song', it could pass as alien project to me." Forgive me but I see it as a complete ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slidingttrancer Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 I like the songstructure and music Alien Project, 1200 mics,etc make but I don't like the formulaic feel they have. I hate the way they forget to implement new stuff in their music but wear out the full-on genre as a whole. It's nice to see there are people able making great full-on music out there (misted muppets, cyber cartel) because it seems to be, after the great minimal/psytech and progressive flow, one of the few 'melodic' AND energetic genres left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joe Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Yes maybe i was a bit harsh:) But it just confuses me when there are topics that ask to post your top 5 tunes or top 5 acts and alien project is one of them. I dont hate it, if they played here i would go and probly dance alot. But to the critical ear of sitting at home wanting psy very suggestive and i dunno.. "full of something unexplicable and powerful", which is the way i judge my favorite tracks (maybe more people are into dance floor effect). AP just kinda seems too simple and formulaic.. i think sun project is the same way. I preffer x-dream, atmos, doof, etnica, posford etc if that clears the picture.. thats why im like "WhaT is that guy thinking?!" when you compare AP to one of these acts. Prefference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest evan Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Hey joe, do you work for NASA? And if yes then how come you don't like Alien Project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest psydark_light Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 music from alien project is nothing but "Dance floor" music ! they have nothing interesting in their shit ! btw- they are just popular , not preferred . and pop music get lost very fast.. logic bomb , 1200 mics , Nomad and so on .. they are all the same ! all of these names make pop music for audience ! the real psy music must be complex with perfect construct IMO otherwise ITS JUST A FOOL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tege Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 psydark_light: Personally I think Logic Bomb is one of the most innovative acts in the scene atm. You can't accuse them of making non-complex, commercial music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Raider Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Logic Bomb is very complex... probably the best of all the artist mentioned in this topic. So don't say Logic Bomb is like everyone else, because that's just foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Raider Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Logic Bomb is very complex... probably the best of all the artist mentioned in this topic. So don't say Logic Bomb is like everyone else, because that's just foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joe Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I think logic bomb is better than alien project but i def. think logic bomb is overrated.. its all effects.. very good effects.. but the overall production lacks musicianship in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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