lynnangel Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 i believe the universe will sort this problem out for chi-ad he is a great artist. if his followers were behind him and buying his music direct from him then i believe he would make a come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 may i just say i believe that chi-ad wil bounce back if he has the support from his followers. me too off course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychonaut Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 i said it many years ago - all music should be free and distributed over the internet ( probably via P2P such as torrents )  and the artists should be supported by donations ( such as pay-pal ) on their official website  also every artist should have a store on their official website so you would have a choice of making a donation or buying something ( like a T-Shirt ) to support the artist  give it another 10 - 20 years and everybody will come to the same conclusion ... i am always ahead of the times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 i said it many years ago - all music should be free and distributed over the internet ( probably via P2P such as torrents )  and the artists should be supported by donations ( such as pay-pal ) on their official website  also every artist should have a store on their official website so you would have a choice of making a donation or buying something ( like a T-Shirt ) to support the artist  give it another 10 - 20 years and everybody will come to the same conclusion ... i am always ahead of the times WOW ! :wank: :clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychonaut Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 you cant stop progress  if you try to fight technology you can only hurt yourself  internet is not going anywhere  if almost everybody i know uses a stolen copy of microsoft windows ( a product backed by multi-billion-dollar corporation ) then you can bet your ass that any underground artist will never be able to prevent his music from getting stolen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlieNed Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 um its not that terreble for psy music lovers that Daves tracks was released on a comp the thing that even psy scene is full of asholes , viliants and mean ppl , this is totally fucked up nothing is ideal in this shitty world for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visine Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 i said it many years ago - all music should be free and distributed over the internet ( probably via P2P such as torrents )  and the artists should be supported by donations ( such as pay-pal ) on their official website  also every artist should have a store on their official website so you would have a choice of making a donation or buying something ( like a T-Shirt ) to support the artist  give it another 10 - 20 years and everybody will come to the same conclusion ... i am always ahead of the times Looks like Metaphysic records guys were way ahead of their time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 i said it many years ago - all music should be free and distributed over the internet ( probably via P2P such as torrents )  and the artists should be supported by donations ( such as pay-pal ) on their official website  also every artist should have a store on their official website so you would have a choice of making a donation or buying something ( like a T-Shirt ) to support the artist  give it another 10 - 20 years and everybody will come to the same conclusion ... i am always ahead of the times While I certainly agree that freely distributed music is on the rise (just look at what I am doing with my site), I highly doubt an artist could get by on donation alone... from what I know, for any free service for which there is a donation option, you're looking at something like a 1000:1 consumer/donor ratio. Rather poor, in other words. Merchandise is another matter; that's physical. I think that consumers are far more likely to continue buying physical products (including CDs!) than donate, but this is not incompatible with the free music paradigm. For example, I have had many requests through my site for CD versions of the free albums (and this is something cool I am working to provide in the future). Perhaps the other fact you overlook is that few artists have official web sites, and almost none of them are anything approaching web 2.0 (i.e. to capitalize on social networking habits). I see a lot of potential in the future, but I think that there will always be a chunk of work that no artist is going to want to bother with (cover design, packaging, hosting, distribution, and other tasks in the digital domain). But hey, that's where I fit in  Oh, and how do the deserving artists put bread on the table? Since time immemorial, musicians have paid the bills by playing live gigs. The advent of recording media in the early part of the 20th century upset this tradition (in fact, there was a huge backlash against recorded media when it first emerged--it would not be untoward to say that the mere existence of recorded media was the big issue of those days just as music piracy is the big issue of ours). Now it is all turning over again, and musicians must be willing to work gigs to pay the bills. Considering that most acts charge anywhere from 1000 to 3000+ for a set, that's not such a shabby deal. Years ago, the band went on tour to support their new album... nowadays, the new album promotes the tour. With that fact in mind, freely distributing an album makes a great deal of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 i said it many years ago - all music should be free and distributed over the internet ( probably via P2P such as torrents )  and the artists should be supported by donations ( such as pay-pal ) on their official website  also every artist should have a store on their official website so you would have a choice of making a donation or buying something ( like a T-Shirt ) to support the artist  give it another 10 - 20 years and everybody will come to the same conclusion ... i am always ahead of the times  meh, i will never buy MP3's. it's just a bunch of bites... It's like buying the holes in a peice of cheese. Doesn't make any sense. You can loose an mp3 very easily and a CD-R breaks faster than a CD. The problem with these kind of fuck up situations like chi-ad experienced is not the way it's sold. It's the general mentality of the people (in this scene and more general, the fucked world). no respect, hippie shit,   I don't want these hippies to start up internet stores, no thanks, i can see where that's going, ever more fraud, it's even easier to sell downloaded MP3's in crappy quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Looks like Metaphysic records guys were way ahead of their time they arent as big and as experienced to pull it all that simple but people keep doing it, perhaps no one of those who offer free music will keep their services for longer than couple of months or years, but they will show the way and others in future when it will finally become viable to give your music away for free might take lessons from the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I'm in for the long haul... two years so far and still going strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visine Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 they arent as big and as experienced to pull it all that simple but people keep doing it, perhaps no one of those who offer free music will keep their services for longer than couple of months or years, but they will show the way and others in future when it will finally become viable to give your music away for free might take lessons from the past My comment was not about free music..It was about making money off of donations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 i said it many years ago - all music should be free and distributed over the internet ( probably via P2P such as torrents )  and the artists should be supported by donations ( such as pay-pal ) on their official website  also every artist should have a store on their official website so you would have a choice of making a donation or buying something ( like a T-Shirt ) to support the artist  give it another 10 - 20 years and everybody will come to the same conclusion ... i am always ahead of the times Although I think there will be a lot more freely distributed music in the future, I hope it wont be the only form of music. I still want something physical! MP3s are for pussies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 My comment was not about free music..It was about making money off of donations...that was meant also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drosophila Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Although I think there will be a lot more freely distributed music in the future, I hope it wont be the only form of music. I still want something physical! MP3s are for pussies +1 Â (major pussies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 wavs/flacs are for them tough guys n girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlieNed Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 wavs/flacs are for them tough guys n girls  wave and flac sucks , there nothing can be compared with hi quality production released on cd ( not cd -r )  and againg , y dont u made a proposition to keep all Daves rights on his music ? he seem like failed it to make it on his own , it might be a friendship support request , not a bizzness deal thou  like come on Dave , dont feel like anything got fucked up , we will take it now on , all the legal rights and stuff , with releasing ya music on diff comps or entire albums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 wave and  flac sucks , there nothing can be compared with hi quality production released on cd ( not cd -r )  Hey kiddo, read an article or two. Or maybe digg-up an encyclopedia? Or finish high-school? Get your facts straight before you blabble in your native-engrish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 well, it has always been like that, his stories of dodgy managers etc are endless and start in 1995  Drug-addiction + an easy way of earning money = fraud  True.. It's always - well, often - the fuckin' junkies ... Too bad for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTP Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Drug-addiction + an easy way of earning money = fraud  Drugs-addiction and else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergroover Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 and againg , y dont u made a proposition to keep all Daves rights on his music ? he seem like failed it to make it on his own , it might be a friendship support request , not a bizzness deal thou  like come on Dave , dont feel like anything got fucked up , we will take it now on , all the legal rights and stuff , with releasing ya music on diff comps or entire albums   i can't even figure what he is talkig about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapinho Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 you mean 'talig' of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergroover Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 of course.. talig.. how could i be so stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneila Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 CHi-AD has the most unique and magical tracks, and lots of them. Â But I could understand if he got bored of spending so much effort on making tracks that go largely unappreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yeah so, avoid this label if you want to get payed for your music. I don't have a problem putting out something for free every now and then since that is practically what you are doing even if you get some kind of $, but its just not professional to say you will pay X amount, and then ignore any communication attempts from the artist once you try to bring it up. Kagdila is a business, it has other people compile the CDs and does not deal directly with the artists. Shu ki can be very transparent this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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