Hippieshaman Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 So I decided to get a keyboard/synth for my PC, eighter a MIDI one or an USB one. Pro's, Con's? preferably one with 49+ keys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 So I decided to get a keyboard/synth for my PC, eighter a MIDI one or an USB one. Pro's, Con's? preferably one with 45+ keys Cons Midi: You need a midi controller to control it. I do not think that a 45 key keyboard exists either, it does not make sense hehe 49 would make sense, as it is 4 octaves plus 1 key... no? Anyways, I am tired and I am not going to go deeper into this, but I would get a Novation Remote 49SL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 It all depends on how much you are willing to spend in the end. If you just wanted a controller - don't have much money - get a little controller. If you want better keys, some on-board ROM get a synth with a usb output so you can use it as a controller aswell. I like the novation Nemo mentions. They make some good stuff IMHO. I think anyone should get at least 49 keys to practice playing on it and get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike A Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 look no further http://www.emu.com/products/category.asp?category=532 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippieshaman Posted October 6, 2007 Author Share Posted October 6, 2007 look no further http://www.emu.com/products/category.asp?category=532 hmm.. looks like a keyboard i can afford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKoy Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 look no further http://www.emu.com/products/category.asp?category=532 I bought a xboard 25 three days ago. So far I'm very happy about my purchase but i can't recommend it as it's my first keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el brujo Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I got the emu xboard 49 and it is great i use it through midi no problems its got a lot of knobs too so good to control your soft synths or your modules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragletrollet Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 ive got the axiom 49, very happy with it but would probably go for a smaller version If id go again. Pity the axiom 25 doesnt have sliders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I got the emu xboard 49 and it is great i use it through midi no problems its got a lot of knobs too so good to control your soft synths or your modules Looks really sweet, was thinkin about getting one... But can you use the knobs for controlling the "cut of" ect. in Vanguard and other vst's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippieshaman Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 after doing some research, i think i will go for this one.. http://www.thomann.de/gb/m_audio_keystation_88_pro.htm that is ofcourse, if someone aint got any major negative things to say about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 fucking expensive if you ask me. and not that good looking for that price. and keys, are you going to simulate piano with it or smthn ? i have no idea tho about them, but they look huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippieshaman Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 im gonna use it as a keyboard connected to the pc, so i can use it directly on reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You would be better off getting a synth with that kind of money, and I mean a rock solid one - you can find them. Get a micro korg or something like that. If you just want a controller I wouldn't spend more than $200 / 200 euros. I myself donned the M-Audio Axiom 49, love it for its pads, sliders, and knobs - its got every midi control I need on it. Aslo you sure about 88 keys? Thats quite alot of keys, unless you see yourself playing live between 3 or more octaves all those extra keys do is add on the price and nothing else. Most controllers will have a button to change the octaves. IMO unless you really need that many keys, that keyboard is just going to take up a whole lot of room Now its not a bad choice, the keyboard is really good - but again it all comes down to what you feel like using it for and if you think its worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getafix Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 For that price i would rather get this: http://www.thomann.de/gb/novation_remote_49_sl_compact.htm You get the automap feature (no more assigning midi cc numbers) much better keys & build quality. I would avoid M-audio in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 In otherwords, everyone will tell you to get something different I've noticed this when people give out recommendations, its good to heed some of what they say but honestly the deciding factor is simply what you want and what you think will be best for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleusene Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I have a CME UF5 at the moment and can only recommend it. It's in a very stable case, the keys are half-weighted and it has 8 knobs and 8 faders. got it for a good price, though i think its out of production since a few weeks as they have some new series. http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/product-uf.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippieshaman Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 well i really dont need it for anything else than to control the softsynths in reason, and also for practising Piano play as i want to learn to play professionally, hence the numbers of keys.. also im using a norwegian shop to avoid duty, and they dont got so much in stock.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 do you know what professional piano player is ? </party pooper mode off> thats why youve been hitting those keys on your pc so hard spamming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 do you know what professional piano player is ? </party pooper mode off> thats why youve been hitting those keys on your pc so hard spamming I almost said something about spam and reger, but I will not, hell will break lose! e. the joke about hitting keyboard is good though hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 well i really dont need it for anything else than to control the softsynths in reason, and also for practising Piano play as i want to learn to play professionally, hence the numbers of keys.. also im using a norwegian shop to avoid duty, and they dont got so much in stock.. It looks like a good choice to me. You don't have to adust to weighted keys when switching to piano and that is a big big deal. If you learn on nonweighted it is hard to play regular pianos. I have seen this model in shops and it does feel solid (hence the price). So yea I would recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippieshaman Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 It looks like a good choice to me. You don't have to adust to weighted keys when switching to piano and that is a big big deal. If you learn on nonweighted it is hard to play regular pianos. I have seen this model in shops and it does feel solid (hence the price). So yea I would recommend. so thats what weighted keys are.. didnt get it earlier.. haha... stupid me. and reger; funny joke, to bad is wasnt human.. since you are a machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubicidal Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 To start this off, I should say that I played the piano for a number of years as a kid, and recently started playing again casually. I have a Novation Remote SL61 MIDI controller and love the thing. I don't find it that particularly difficult to go back and forth between playing synthesizers on the keyboard and classical pieces on the piano, but I certainly can't envision playing anything classical on the keyboard - the resistance from the keys is too little, and getting timing right so that complex passages don't sound disjointed from keys landing at different times (ones in different hands that should be simultaneous) is difficult. However, I'd think playing synthesizers on a piano weighted keyboard would be hell. There's no way you could play as lightly and quickly as they demand. Imagine typing on a piano weighted keyboard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippieshaman Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 To start this off, I should say that I played the piano for a number of years as a kid, and recently started playing again casually. I have a Novation Remote SL61 MIDI controller and love the thing. I don't find it that particularly difficult to go back and forth between playing synthesizers on the keyboard and classical pieces on the piano, but I certainly can't envision playing anything classical on the keyboard - the resistance from the keys is too little, and getting timing right so that complex passages don't sound disjointed from keys landing at different times (ones in different hands that should be simultaneous) is difficult. However, I'd think playing synthesizers on a piano weighted keyboard would be hell. There's no way you could play as lightly and quickly as they demand. Imagine typing on a piano weighted keyboard... i dont intend to type fast on my keyboard when making music.. im going downbeat / chillout / ambient / world / blablabla... style.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 To start this off, I should say that I played the piano for a number of years as a kid, and recently started playing again casually. I have a Novation Remote SL61 MIDI controller and love the thing. I don't find it that particularly difficult to go back and forth between playing synthesizers on the keyboard and classical pieces on the piano, but I certainly can't envision playing anything classical on the keyboard - the resistance from the keys is too little, and getting timing right so that complex passages don't sound disjointed from keys landing at different times (ones in different hands that should be simultaneous) is difficult. However, I'd think playing synthesizers on a piano weighted keyboard would be hell. There's no way you could play as lightly and quickly as they demand. Imagine typing on a piano weighted keyboard... Try the A-80, it's a serious board and you may find out that this board contradicts your statement. Even the kurzweil midiboard. These two will give you near-piano feel and even aftertouch polyphonic stylee. There have been folks who have hooked up piano midi, but without the goodness of polyat and that kind of makes it pointless, i would think. Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amygdala Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Hi guys, I just saw the recomendation of the Novation Remote 49SL - I strongly advice againt that. I bought one, and it acted a bit funny and then, a month after purchase, it died. Before it did, whenever I was playing a sequence, and tweaking knobs at the same time, the lowest MIDI note would hang - even though it was never played in the sequence. This problem was definetly due to the keyboard, since no other gear was changed. - A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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