Reznik Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 nemo please program a decent 303 MIDI loop (so we all use the same notes), then i render it with Tau and Phoscyon. you do the same with any 303 emu you have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 nemo please program a decent 303 MIDI loop (so we all use the same notes), then i render it with Tau and Phoscyon. you do the same with any 303 emo you have. i do all in PTN mode, I dont have a midi loop of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 dont you think this comparison is a good idea? you could progam a loop in no time, and even better, send me an ableton live project file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 dont you think this comparison is a good idea? you could progam a loop in no time, and even better, send me an ableton live project file no. i dont. i dont want to right now. maybe tomorrow. phocyradi sucks. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike A Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 what for? they all sound close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 I will get 303 vst in couple of days and friend says it's really good.. Im really looking forward to it since I have stopped to work with rebirth and am in need of some good 303 emu.. Can you make a list of some good 303 emu-s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 I will get 303 vst in couple of days and friend says it's really good.. Im really looking forward to it since I have stopped to work with rebirth and am in need of some good 303 emu.. Can you make a list of some good 303 emu-s?best ones: muon tau pro, audiorealism bassline 2, phoscyon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 I've got Audiorealism ABL2. It's pretty good and was a good replacement for ReBirth when I couldn't use that anymore (and sounds better), there's still some differences in what I can get with what I hear in songs. Mostly when you push the resonance up into self-oscillation; it just seems more fuzzy than screechy like I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Thanks guys, Im downloading phosycon demo now.. It seems good and also that neopheton vst that d16 group has.. I mean it has recomendations from richie hawtin.. I will chech audiorealism bassline later and I got tau already.. But one things that bothers me is that phosycon is demo so can one of u help me out with that :-D If yes contact me privately and send some numbers.. Or exe files.. :-P I have bunch of vst in exchange.. I think that 303 emu my friend talked about is phosycon but im not sure still.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKoy Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I too love the sound of a 303. But unlike most of you, I'm not really interested in having the exact same sound, but rather get something that has the same "acid feeling". And that's very easy to get : any synth with the right settings(cutoff, reasonance, and distortion) can do it I think. Ā But when I want the closest sound to a 303 I simply use ReBirth, and it sounds close enough to me. And if you disagree, you're a crazy fetishist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 After little mesing with phosycon and trying audiorealism bassline I can claim that phosycon is best 303 I heard till now.. Audiorealism is good and looks even better but the sound isnt as close as phosycon.. Great tool, I sure gona use it plenty.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 After little mesing with phosycon and trying audiorealism bassline I can claim that phosycon is best 303 I heard till now.. Audiorealism is good and looks even better but the sound isnt as close as phosycon.. Great tool, I sure gona use it plenty..Is phosycon easy to assign controlls to? like just right click? If it is, I'm getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew05 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 But when I want the closest sound to a 303 I simply use ReBirth, and it sounds close enough to me. And if you disagree, you're a crazy fetishist. Ā i'm with you, McKoy Ā does anyone else have problems with Rebirth's gain when rewired into Ableton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Forget about ReBirth and go and get Phosycon.. I already made a track with it and its awesome.. Its called Black acid Really, Rebirth doesnt have a chance.. And controls are easy too set up.. Get it and start jammin, hook some stereo expander on it and hold tight :posford: Drew, of course you have problems with rewireing, I also had problems with rewirering to cubase, simply cause it sucks.. And also I cant open one great track of mine anymore cause of Rebirth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Drew, of course you have problems with rewireing, I also had problems with rewirering to cubase, simply cause it sucks..It's always worked very well for me, Rewiring Reason in to SX. The last track we did like this had over 50 Rewire channels active, as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Maybe it isnt the rewireing, maybe its rebirth and`or reason itself.. But in any case I cant do remix of my track nor I can decently master it cause it wont open, and its second best track on my last album.. You dont know how much that frustrated me.. And I always tend to loose sample when rewireing reason.. Its really easier to work now only in cubase, no TAB shifting between programs, I dont need two LCDs anymore.. Its much more creative.. I only used reason as a drum sequencer and sampler and rebirth for acid and now I have far better VSTs to use and work only in cubase.. Its a great step for me, but small step for mankind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Forget about ReBirth and go and get Phosycon.. I already made a track with it and its awesome.. Its called Black acid Really, Rebirth doesnt have a chance.. And controls are easy too set up.. Get it and start jammin, hook some stereo expander on it and hold tight :posford: Drew, of course you have problems with rewireing, I also had problems with rewirering to cubase, simply cause it sucks.. And also I cant open one great track of mine anymore cause of Rebirth I just checked the demo and couldn't figure out how to assign knobs to Edirol knobs. Sounds good, looks good too, but this is a sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I just checked the demo and couldn't figure out how to assign knobs to Edirol knobs. Sounds good, looks good too, but this is a sticker. My bad man, my bad.. I will have to go through the manual again cause neither can I control it with my bitstream.. I donts see the MIDI learn button.. But accent can be regulated with velocity above 100 and slide can be also modified in similar way.. Anyway even without MIDI learn its great tool.. But that acid lines would sound better with a little modulation.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznik Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 yes there is no MIDI learn button on phoscyon, you have to assign controls in your sequencer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Its a little drag but it can be done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 So afterall I found out that Phosycon can be MIDI controled and automated.. I didnt want to accept that it cant be so I twisted the knobs until I found which CC# Phosycon use.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubicidal Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 ACCENT Accent Decay 20 Accent Link Mode 21 Env Accent 22 Accent Volume 23 Reso Link Mode 24 Sweep Time 25 Ā DISTORTION On/Off 40 Preamp 41 Clip 42 Size 43 Wetness 44 Density 45 Brightness 46 Dist route 47 Ā ARPEGGIATOR Arp. Mode 50 Arp. Chord 51 Arp. Multiplier 52 Arp. Repeater 53 Oct. Range -1 54 Oct. Range 0 55 Oct. Range +1 56 Oct. Range +2 57 Ā FILTER Cutoff 70 Resonance 71 Env Mod 72 Env Attack 73 Env Decay 74 Control CC No. Ā OSCILLATOR Waveform 75 Tuning 76 Ā SEQUENCER Slide Time 5 Step Length 106 Tempo 107 Volume 7 Ā EVENT THRESHOLD Gate 109 Accent 110 Slide 111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutledaren Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Hi guys! Ā I have just started with reason4 and found a subtractor 303. It's available here: http://geocities.com/scoutledaren/tb303.zip Ā Tell me what you think about it Ā Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidkills Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I also have one track made with rebirth and reason but I tried to quit using reason and finally find replacement for all components of reason.. Now u cant even compare tracks made with phosycon and without a trace of reason with my old stuff.. Its just isnt that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(OM)Open_Mind Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 acidkills, what can you suggest as replacement of malstorm for granular synthesis? Camel Audio Alchemy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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