Guest ritual om Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 let's go to 1994.trance was created little by little as a music genre(order odonata 1 reminds you of anything?).so individuals started making music by themslves or with cooperation with other dudes.some of them may have thought:what the fuck?let's try it.some others may have thought:it's a good way to make some money.others said:oh yes babe!this is some fucking wicked music!let's give it a try!etc etc etc etc. where exactly i want you to be lead? at that time and still today which artists do u think make music cause they REALLY love doing it,cause they believe in that,cause they feel cultured doing it and cause they have the psychedelic source in them always blossomed...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unikos Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 texas faggot, shaolin wooden men for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zero the Hero Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 all the underground artists for sure! Not GMS, Astral p. etc... of course... =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sudh1r Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 they do it for the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --==1400MiLeS==-- Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 Psytrance has always been an alternative to conventional trance/techno/house for me...I was interested in electronic music but before psytrance emerged the whole rave scene lacked depth musically and the pre-candy atmosphere wasn't mine...Shame to see so much influence from such musically unappealing and uninteresting genres nowadys. But back to the question. Sure there are many good artists that want to push the limits of psytrance without $$$ as motive...but such stuff rarely comes from the UK, Israel or Germany nowadays. Finnland, Australia, Greece...that is where the worthwile acid goodies are made now imo. Some names I discovered in the last 2 years: James Reipas Weird Alchemy Benza (debut album soon) Tea Chairs (debut album soon) Fractal Glider Haltya Kiwa Loopus in Fabula Stuff on Apoxima, Demon Tea, Sundance, Tribeadelic, Sureal Audio, Boom... Its not that you have to listen to the tired GMS and clones or nowhere leading progressive stuff...There is plenty outthere that captures the early spirit and makes an enjoyable listen and dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 i don't know but i myself don't want to judge artists i don't know personally. just because they do they same style of music again and again doesn't automatically mean they do it just for the money. did you ever think that maybe they do it like this because they love it that way? maybe they do, maybe they don't i can't say it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hels Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Good point Tatsu. I can't understand this website...people are supposed to be openminded and logical here but I find it to be nearly the exact opposite...oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 i'm glad to be not the only one who thinks like that!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest .:::EP Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I agree with Tatsu 100% It's amazing to see how much people know about people they have never meet...... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spifer Jo Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I'm 100% with Tatsu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AMP Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I think anyone making psytrance, make it because they fucking love it...... This question are disrespectful for the other artists.....Psytrance is probably one of the less financial worth electronic style of music.... Take house, techno, dance....all that other electronic music, and you'll see who makes trance needs to love it, because they get like 10% of what the others get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pranaspace Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 true dat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andreas of Amygdala Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 I don't think psytrance is the least financial electronic music. Quite the contrary - in no other genres do so incredibly many compilations pop out of nowhere, with all the same track oooon and ooon again. Party promoters rip off the audience, by some hoax parties, some labels play the connected artists like violins and so on. I think the majority of artist really like/love to make the music, and the shame is on the exploiters of the artists... There may off course be some rotten eggs in the basket of artists, but thus is humankind. .oO Andreas Oo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ~EA Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 In other arts there is a distinction, however fuzzy, between "craft" and "art," "artisans" and "artists." Artisans who employ craft in their work are doing it to make money. Their work may be of high technical quality, but their intent is mass-production and their product is eventually disposable after their gimmick or novelty has worn off. Artists, on the other hand, generally shoot for higher levels of ingenuity and technique, and their passion for their work and their ideas is usually obvious. Their work is implicitly one-time-only, not meant for reproduction (although similar concepts often carry through one's body of work), and are meant to create transcendence. The ideas in an artist's work are more important than the money. I think these categories can be applied to the psy trance genre quite easily. Unfortunately, I see very little artistry in the genre. A perfect example, in my opinion, of a psy artist is Ubar Tmar, whereas there are tons of craftsperson/artisan examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest veridia Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 I've always said that if someone wanted to make music for the money, they wouldn't be making any type of electronic music, but rather Rock or Hip-Hop, since that's where the multi million record deals are, and the big bucks as well. Eminem is a classic example of music for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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