drugs and music making

[drekmajster]

So i was wondering what the rest of you think of making music under the influence of different chemicals. I personally dont have much experience with that except with weed. when im stoned, making music is easier and i get better ideas, but i have to correct everything when sober later(equalizing and stuff) because everything sounds better than it actually is. I'm thinking of dropping acid or doing a small amount of cocaine with weed(havent decided yet) this weekend and we'll see what happens.

so what about yee?

[frozen dream]

lol

[Veracohr]

Drugs & jamming = fun

Drugs & writing or mixing = crap

[frozen dream]

fun crap

[Novacron]

I would say it works for getting inspired, starting a track to create a solid direction for a track. As far as adding in the extras/details and polishing it up... do it sober.

[frosty]

Try some E, maybe it will give you some euphoric full on results or you might end up hugging your computer

 

Just kidding, i dont think drugs and production go hand in hand.. one thing to get the inspiration while under the influence.. but to work in that state i dont see it work out, at least not for me.. and especially not on acid or other strong hallucinogenic drugs for some it might i dont know... but for me i have to be clear in my mind in order to think logical.

hahahaha if i was e-ing i woundn't be able to sit in front of my computer. id be bouncing round the house! and i was on acid id be laying on my front lawn watching the frogs float past talking to my dog. lol. weeds ok but i find myself getting stuck on the one little loop and not moving on.

[Kryll]

Try Ritalin

[gallowglass]

IMO drugs like ritalin, adderall, or speed are great for learning how to use the software, but ive had terrible results actually trying to make music on them.

[frozen dream]

try try fail fail

[Daniël]

weed: ok, i smoke often while making music. works fine.

 

coke: why would you even spend sooo much money and then just waste is it by sitting in front of a screen, bullshit. Coke is for downtown. + it's addictive as hell, if you start doing it at home by yourself, well ... it's not that good.

 

LSD: nope, maybe consider playing sitar in the forest; if you can't play sitar play some jimi hendrix Cd's. Seriously, if you take acid and manage to sit in front of a screen to make a psytrack you are probably already completely crazy; you need serious psychological treatment. There are more interesting things to do then making music! Like..... dancing, and waving your arms around, pretending your a duck, replace every word in your vocabulary with " DERP" and make whole conversations('deeeeerp derp derp dereeeeeep") with that, take a walk down the street and start laughing and pointing to everyone you meet. Then when you had so much fun that your cheeks hurt for 3 days go back to make some music. I think it will have a much better impact.

 

XTC:A 4-4 kick is enough to keep me happy on E; so i don't expect alot of technical insight.

[TheCreamFilling]

I tend to get more focused when I'm really sleepy, so my best ideas come when I'm exhaused. I've never tried writing on drugs. I find it funny that when I'm well rested and full of energy it's difficult to write and extend themes/ideas into full tracks because I'm so easily distracted.

[needle ninja]

The only thing that has worked for me has been to get a lot of sleep beforehand.

Distractions destroy my creative process whether they be computer problems or outside noises etc.

The best catalyst for creativity has been just a lot of free time.

[drekmajster]

heh, i'll do acid and see what happens. it might work because i always have to create stuff on hallucinogens and if i wont feel like it, ill just stick to painting, jamming on my singing bowls or just do random things that will seem fun. of course ill post when its over

[buzzman]

heh, i'll do acid and see what happens. it might work because i always have to create stuff on hallucinogens and if i wont feel like it, ill just stick to painting, jamming on my singing bowls or just do random things that will seem fun. of course ill post when its over

 

Yeah, upload the result (mix/track) I want to here it

[Kryll]

yeah, a good night's sleep, a wealthy fruity breakfast, and some mugs of coffee should do the trick as well

 

 

 

or some jogging, for like 6-8 miles or something before you start.. a shot of pure endorphin

[Anakoluth]

The only drug that works for me is 1 or 2 beers, not more.

 

In the 4 years I smoked the shit, I finished 3 tunes, because my concentration span resembled that one of a slice of bread - since I stopped 1 year ago, I finished 10, and "success" started pouring in. Hence for me, drugs don't support my creativity at all, to the contrary, they made me loose focus on my ideas which is the most important thing there is in composing IMO.

[maxime999]

Weed is the only psychoactive that works for me when producing. Makes me hear the track on a different angle and hear problems I didn't really hear before ( but also makes me ignore other stuff ). So I like working on my tracks sober & stoned.

 

I don't see how you could produce music under a psychedelic though.

[drekmajster]

I made this yesterday(on acid) it was fun for a while but then i went to drawing

Its far from finished and the basslines dont really fit, but i love the main melody

[Overmind]

I must say: I made some of my best stuff on SPEED!

 

But that was like a long time ago. Clear head works the best for me now.

 

Paradox: now, speed just slows me down

[Kryll]

Paradox: now, speed just slows me down

it's all probably about having focus

 

in the end, most drugs will kill your ability to focus on the same thing over a longer period of time

[Overmind]

it's all probably about having focus

 

in the end, most drugs will kill your ability to focus on the same thing over a longer period of time

Exactly! That means, if You let drugs to do works for You (either music or anything else), in the end You'll become hollow and empty...

 

now, this probably sounds stupid, but I can't explain it better right now

[Kryll]

hmm well... i agree

 

 

drugs as experiment can work inspiring, or revelating, or etc.. (as u have a good ability of focus + good short term memory)

drugs as default will eventually work destructive (as it destroys focus + short term memory)

 

something like that

[Otto Matta]

Sounds about right to me.

 

Personally, I find that alcohol lubricates the writing process. I tend to be fairly tightly wound inside, and it helps to loosen up when writing. But not too much, because then I lose attention to detail. MJ can help sometimes, but for me that drug is more passive than active. Nicotine is essential, and I think it helps me solve problems. Brain stimulator.

 

I can't imagine any other drug while writing.

[Kryll]

MJ can help sometimes, but for me that drug is more passive than active.

quite an active drug, but the effect gives a passive effect u mean ?

 

it's complex to explain what the different effects of it are

but it causes different effects on different levels

 

same as nicotine btw

very complex imo

 

it works as a lighthouse of hope, after a rugget time, a sort of reward

but the rugget time just was so rugget cause of soberness (counter-effect)

and so it can destablise your emotional being quite a bit (both)

in the end the cause for the effect of it is made indirectly by the effect itself..

cause its used as solution for coping with stress, irritation, frustration, hopefullness, blues, etc...

there are other things as well with these.. but i'll keep it with this one

 

or did u just mean that u only use it passively, now and then, when it's around.. ?

[Otto Matta]

I meant that I enjoying listening more than creating when I'm high. Input more than output. But that sometimes it inspires me. I don't think it can be trusted, though. That's my major problem with it. I can't trust it simply because it makes almost anything sound better than it would normally. And part of the passivity of it is that it makes me lazy, which is the very last thing you need to be when trying to get something accomplished. I'm trying to finish a joint tonight, actually, the last of my stash, so that I can be ambitious this weekend. If I have some around, I WILL smoke it. I have to finish the last track of my EP soon, and I SUCK at finishing things once I start them, therefore MJ and I have to break up for a while. That sort of thing. But I agree with you that it's a nice reward and can be inspiring in a destabilizing way.