Tom! Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 For me it's very simple: I can wait 5 more years if I'm guaranteed to have a sublime album in the end. I couldn't agree more. However they'd have to create something absolutely magnificent to beat Dancing Galaxy which is one of my fav albums of all time. Their recent stuff unfortunately has been going completely the wrong way for me. Thought 'Humans will play for Robots' is probably the worst tune they've ever produced. I wish I could be hopeful like most of you, but I've lost a lot of hope when it comes to AP these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 IMO, the duo is sort of lost in the middle of this new scene. I mean, they're trying to find their place in the 2010's scene. They know they can't sound like they did in 1995 - which is their trademark. But how to sound the same and be different at the same time? It must be very hard. I imagine they question themselves: "should we accelerate a little more, to 145 bpms? Or should we keep the same pace as in Dancing Galaxy?" So, at the same time I understand them I somehow pity them. I think they thought that Amen would be a benchmark back in 2003, and when they saw the album was not welcomed, they lost their guidelines. As for this next album, I think they are paying attention to this new wave of Goa - I am sure they want to surf on it and at the same time to get a "Oh my Gad! It's AP's new track, wonderful!!" reaction. Not an easy task. As I wrote before, I wish this new album doesn't sound progressive as Prophecy and other tracks sound. I want them to make banging, hypnotic Goa. Let's wait and see. (that's what I call waiting, lololo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted D*U*O Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I don't know... Dancing Galaxy was indeed their benchmark album and most well received. Which is why I say stick with it. I absolutely loathe when an artist completely changes up just to sell records. Do what you do well and stick with it. Everything rotates in cycles. There's gonna be a time when the "rivet-head" sound of 150 BPM psytrance will be the taste of a selected few and 135 BPM trance music will become the flavor. So stick with what you do well and actually be a "pioneer" rather than go with the trends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindphilux Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 people are still discussing this? this album is never going to happen. until i have the CD in my hands i will never believe any kind of release date they give out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb820 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 IMO, the duo is sort of lost in the middle of this new scene. I mean, they're trying to find their place in the 2010's scene. They know they can't sound like they did in 1995 - which is their trademark. But how to sound the same and be different at the same time? It must be very hard. I imagine they question themselves: "should we accelerate a little more, to 145 bpms? Or should we keep the same pace as in Dancing Galaxy?" So, at the same time I understand them I somehow pity them. I think they thought that Amen would be a benchmark back in 2003, and when they saw the album was not welcomed, they lost their guidelines. As for this next album, I think they are paying attention to this new wave of Goa - I am sure they want to surf on it and at the same time to get a "Oh my Gad! It's AP's new track, wonderful!!" reaction. Not an easy task. As I wrote before, I wish this new album doesn't sound progressive as Prophecy and other tracks sound. I want them to make banging, hypnotic Goa. Let's wait and see. (that's what I call waiting, lololo) IMO Amen was a move in the right direction. There are plenty of people who first got into Astral because of that album. Sure, they tried all modern ideas, some to lesser success than others but I could easily take an album full of The Prophecy and Open Society. And yes, Goa's success in 2008 and 2009 have certainly influenced them. At this point, having been out of the spotlight for so long, I think they have nothing to lose by putting out an album like Dancing Galaxy but that is for them to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Stop trying to make reasons they could be making a GOA album, I don't want to be disappointed again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb820 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I don't want them to go broke and have to give up on the scene because a Goa album doesn't get well received. As I said, The Prophecy and Open Society are fantastic tracks that I would not mind hearing on the new album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob F'n Barker Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I want them to make banging, hypnotic Goa. sounds good to me. when do we get it ?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Stop trying to make reasons they could be making a GOA album, I don't want to be disappointed again.. Penzoline, you're right to some extent. But then under what vertent could they release an album which is not goa and it's Astral Projection at the same time? Or better, perhaps they release something unexpected, fresh, different from what we hear today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 when do we get it ?!?! a really good question! Anybody knows when it will be out finally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skytrancer Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 a really good question! Anybody knows when it will be out finally? I've very bad news : This week on facebook : "I don't quite understand how it's possible that after the legal issues there's still delays, but I'll happily wait if the album is going to be great and tbh I know it will be." Avi NISSIM : "after the legal issues we have so many more.." So, like a friend, I'm affraid that this album will never be released ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 you know, during all the time they could just shit on it and make another one, a second one ... and release the stuff of this one once the legal issues have been cleared. S-Range did it. The release of Another Theory was corrupted by the album having leaked, so he makes a third one ... which will be out soon according to the news. And funnily enough, that aforementioned release should have been in the same year as Astral were about to release their new one initially, as far as I remember. So he is now releasing his second new one and Astral do ... nothing?! We'll see who will be better off here. I'll stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2kx Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Here's one of the many new tunes that will feature on the album. "Dunes Of Gold", it starts at 0:35! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Sounds like prog to me. By the way, nice "air chords" by Avi near the end. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Despite the bad quality of the vid, it sounds wonderful. I loved the hark kicks and the melodies too. IMO, not prog at all. A sort of full-goa. We will see when they release it, or a better file surfaces. Man! how I hate strobe lights "on-your-face". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0fane Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The downside to massive success is ridiculous expectations, and Astral Projection can almost only disappoint. While I do respect the revival of oldschool goatrance in the last couple of years, I think it’s unfair to downright demand an album that sounds exactly like it was produced in 1997. Taste develops over time, and I’m sure that’s also the case with Avi and Lior – now they’re caught between hardcore fans of their old sounds, a scene which has moved towards more bassline-oriented music, and finally also their own musical taste. Astral Projection were one of the biggest influences in getting me into psytrance, and although I haven’t liked their last couple of albums, I wish they go their own way and make a truly personal album instead of effortlessly rehashing old ideas to cater for fans of their old sound or make another album that will drown in the sea of Israeli full on. I haven’t liked Infected Mushrooms music for the past many years, but they do deserve some respect for going their own, unique route instead of listening to fans that expect another “The Gathering” (which, by the way is a magnificent album). Hopefully the legal disagreements won't stop Astral Projection from releasing music, as they're obviously talented musicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2kx Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Despite the bad quality of the vid, it sounds wonderful. I loved the hark kicks and the melodies too. IMO, not prog at all. A sort of full-goa. We will see when they release it, or a better file surfaces. Man! how I hate strobe lights "on-your-face". Yes I agree, it does sound wonderful, actually I think everything they've done recently and presented in live sets sounds fantastic. I was too young to be into Goa in the 90's, so I didn't expect them to do an old sounding Goa album which luckily won't happen. It will be a mix of everything with modern production :-) @pr0fane: There are no legal issues anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djuna Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 All those speculations, and no one here has seen them live yet? I heard 'Humans will play for robots' on last year's Heat Seaker from HOM-Mega (except for AP a crappy album btw) and saw them at Aurora last summer, they blew me away. Oldschool melodies with modern production. I don't think I'll be disappointed, and I pretty much despise modern full-on, so that means something.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2kx Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Skytrancer from this forum will see them in France in early July. Avi told him they will make a photo and he will sign the new album, because it would be released before the festival. They're doing an album launch tour or something I've heard. I can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ion1zed Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Sounds great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I heard 'Humans will play for robots' on last year's Heat Seaker from HOM-Mega (except for AP a crappy album btw) and saw them at Aurora last summer, they blew me away. Oldschool melodies with modern production. I have just youtubed it. I am impressed! A refined, uplifiting track with a wonderful melody. Unique. Somehow reminded me of "Dancing Galaxy" tracks. Come on AP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I have just youtubed it. I am impressed! A refined, uplifiting track with a wonderful melody. Unique. Somehow reminded me of "Dancing Galaxy" tracks. Come on AP! You can download Astral's track Humans will play for robots at beatport alongside other remixes and tracks...just great!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skytrancer Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 "The cd will be released around August", Avi says that yesterday. The story is not finished, we have to wait more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 "The cd will be released around April", Avi says that yesterday. The story is not finished, we have to wait more and more. lol, April is over - unless he means 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2kx Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 He meant August. It's a good thing though, because it will contain lots of new material :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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