Trance in the Garage

[Mackayah]

Hey, I'm real new here, but I've been into trance music lately and have been trying to experiment with the style with my jam band. Do you all have any practice ideas, techniques, theory or excersizes that would help us on our journey? If it helps we are a 3 piece with keyboard, bass and drums.

 

We would really apprecieate some feedback!

Thanks

[buzzman]

Post a track or two that you've made, then it's easier to give advice

[needle ninja]

Hey, I'm real new here, but I've been into trance music lately and have been trying to experiment with the style with my jam band. Do you all have any practice ideas, techniques, theory or excersizes that would help us on our journey? If it helps we are a 3 piece with keyboard, bass and drums.

 

We would really apprecieate some feedback!

Thanks

Jam band and psytrace do not mix!

 

Unless your Eat Static

[NEMO.BOFH]

Jam band and psytrace do not mix!

 

Unless your Eat Static

Uhhhh, that was just about the stupidest thing i've ever read. So, if you are not Eat Static / Ozric Tentacles, you can not do it? Way to go to inspire something that might be cool and really good!!! As much as I am an asshole, your above comment was just assholeish.

 

And yeah as a tip, Mackayah, Check out Eat Static / Ozric, they are doing some cool stuff

[Malevol3nt]

Not just psytrance.

 

You could try mixing up some jazz with ambient, like Pushmipulyu's album 133 Thursdays.

[Mackayah]

Ok, ok, cool, thanks for replying. I'm workin with a Roland fp5 and a Korg triton le...Triton has some cool lead type sounds and the roland has some built in effects which are kinda crappy...Basicly i've been using a midi chord to enhance my keyboards together and i'm lookin at reasons to use along with my computer.

 

I have some theory behind me, but i guess what I'm lookin for is more of the theory aspect of the whole trance groove. Anything you all were doing when you started?

 

I'll post the latest jam when i figure out how to...Thanks

[Mackayah]

Um, yeah, how do I post music?

[Mackayah]

Hey, ok, so heres kinda what I'm wanting to move towards. Look at about 210 for another minute or so and tell me what you think please! Also, please keep in mind, it is truely a jam, very rough, and we were a little stoned.

 

Help me with this please!

Thanks

[Mackayah]

Sorry. Like I said, big newb here. The link is this. http://www.sendspace.com/file/92rqr3 Please check out around 210 or so

[buzzman]

Um, yeah, how do I post music?

You just upload it on rapidshare, zshare, filefactory or sendspace, and then post the downlload link here

[Daniël]

There are alot of good psy bands.

SUN project, Dark soho, Juno reactor.

IMO, bands always PWN solo projects.

 

 

my perfect setup would be:

 

dude 1:

1 electric drums with sampler

 

 

dude 2

1 guitar with pedalbox (GNX1) & build in Kaoss pad 3

"]kaoss pad guitar demo on youtube

 

 

 

 

dude 3:

 

1 laptop running ableton live & Korg MS20(synth)

 

 

dude 4

violin or Sax+roland juno 106, roland TB-303 (for old skool sound) or Virus Ti & Nord lead G2+ rack with compressors, equalisers, FX, recording unit & patch

 

that will do it.

[Malevol3nt]

If you really want to be underground I recommend a cave, not a garage.

 

Just kiddin, good luck with the band

[buzzman]

If you really want to be underground I recommend a cave, not a garage.

 

Just kiddin, good luck with the band

Cave trance.. Sounds cool..

 

Btw the link you posted to the track, i only get a 44kb size file, wich my spyware protector reacts on ?

[Malevol3nt]

Btw the link you posted to the track, i only get a 44kb size file, wich my spyware protector reacts on ?

Indeed.

 

You posted a 44 byte .cda (cd audio) track, and that format doesn't actually contain any audio, you should convert your track to mp3 or something.

[Mackayah]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ds3s4p This may work.

[needle ninja]

Uhhhh, that was just about the stupidest thing i've ever read. So, if you are not Eat Static / Ozric Tentacles, you can not do it? Way to go to inspire something that might be cool and really good!!! As much as I am an asshole, your above comment was just assholeish.

 

And yeah as a tip, Mackayah, Check out Eat Static / Ozric, they are doing some cool stuff

I think you don't understand.

 

Jam bands make music spontaniously.

Psytrance is programed sequences that don't sound good if you just put any old thing down.

It's cool having a good synth with trancy sounds to play while the drummer and guitar are playing but I am thinking about the finished product.

 

There is nothing "assholeish" about my sharing my view from the other side of expirience.

But then when your covered in shit everything smells bad eh Nemo.

[Mackayah]

I'm not exactly looking for that programmed sound exactly. I want my keyboards and my computer and the parts of my form and know what sounds to use and how to use them when that part in the song comes. Maybe I'm speaking of the wrong genre, but I do want to here more "trance" style grooves in my music

 

Its not just any old thing we put down when song time comes. Just looking for tips here.

[NEMO.BOFH]

I think you don't understand.

 

Jam bands make music spontaniously.

Psytrance is programed sequences that don't sound good if you just put any old thing down.

It's cool having a good synth with trancy sounds to play while the drummer and guitar are playing but I am thinking about the finished product.

 

There is nothing "assholeish" about my sharing my view from the other side of expirience.

But then when your covered in shit everything smells bad eh Nemo.

I perfectly understood. And I know a COUPLE of Jambands that actually use pre-programmed sequences and JAM AROUND it. My mates in Sweden do a Psy-Electro-Dub JAM every friday for instance.

 

You are not covered in shit, and you do not smell like shit, your comment just smelled like shit. It sounded very wrong. But with the above CLARIFICATION, I would have to retract my comment to your first post, and apologize for my not so nice behavior

[frozen dream]

I perfectly understood. And I know a COUPLE of Jambands that actually use pre-programmed sequences and JAM AROUND it. My mates in Sweden do a Psy-Electro-Dub JAM every friday for instance.

 

You are not covered in shit, and you do not smell like shit, your comment just smelled like shit. It sounded very wrong. But with the above CLARIFICATION, I would have to retract my comment to your first post, and apologize for my not so nice behavior

we could all do with an apology from you here, hothead

[NEMO.BOFH]

we could all do with an apology from you here, hothead

to you? never. got nothing to apologize to you for. you are still on my ass-hat list.

[reger]

Did anyone actually listen to what he posted?

[Otto Matta]

Hey Mackayah, have you heard Particle or Sound Tribe Sector 9?

[Mackayah]

Exactly! Thats what I'm about. Thanks for new music and new influences here. What really kinda spurred my curiousity/attention was when i saw the disco bisquits a few times here on the east coast. These bands seem kind of along those lines. Thanks for the new music!

[NEMO.BOFH]

I think arps can help you a lot

[supergroover]

Psy trance is a very complex genre, its a science almost to learn it and master it, to many advices to give like this briefly, but i do recommend that you invest in a good synthesizer suitable for psy trance, since this genre is heavily based around the synthesizer sound.

 

Some good effects are essential as well, phasers, chorus, flangers, and reverb/delay units.

The list just goes on and on.

why would it be different to any other style of music? I dont think house or dnb for example is easier to make then psy..