Mackayah Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hey, I'm real new here, but I've been into trance music lately and have been trying to experiment with the style with my jam band. Do you all have any practice ideas, techniques, theory or excersizes that would help us on our journey? If it helps we are a 3 piece with keyboard, bass and drums. We would really apprecieate some feedback! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Post a track or two that you've made, then it's easier to give advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hey, I'm real new here, but I've been into trance music lately and have been trying to experiment with the style with my jam band. Do you all have any practice ideas, techniques, theory or excersizes that would help us on our journey? If it helps we are a 3 piece with keyboard, bass and drums. We would really apprecieate some feedback! Thanks Jam band and psytrace do not mix! Unless your Eat Static Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Jam band and psytrace do not mix! Unless your Eat Static Uhhhh, that was just about the stupidest thing i've ever read. So, if you are not Eat Static / Ozric Tentacles, you can not do it? Way to go to inspire something that might be cool and really good!!! As much as I am an asshole, your above comment was just assholeish. And yeah as a tip, Mackayah, Check out Eat Static / Ozric, they are doing some cool stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Not just psytrance. You could try mixing up some jazz with ambient, like Pushmipulyu's album 133 Thursdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackayah Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Ok, ok, cool, thanks for replying. I'm workin with a Roland fp5 and a Korg triton le...Triton has some cool lead type sounds and the roland has some built in effects which are kinda crappy...Basicly i've been using a midi chord to enhance my keyboards together and i'm lookin at reasons to use along with my computer. I have some theory behind me, but i guess what I'm lookin for is more of the theory aspect of the whole trance groove. Anything you all were doing when you started? I'll post the latest jam when i figure out how to...Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackayah Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Um, yeah, how do I post music? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackayah Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hey, ok, so heres kinda what I'm wanting to move towards. Look at about 210 for another minute or so and tell me what you think please! Also, please keep in mind, it is truely a jam, very rough, and we were a little stoned. Help me with this please! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackayah Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Sorry. Like I said, big newb here. The link is this. http://www.sendspace.com/file/92rqr3 Please check out around 210 or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Um, yeah, how do I post music?You just upload it on rapidshare, zshare, filefactory or sendspace, and then post the downlload link here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 There are alot of good psy bands. SUN project, Dark soho, Juno reactor. IMO, bands always PWN solo projects. my perfect setup would be: dude 1: 1 electric drums with sampler dude 2 1 guitar with pedalbox (GNX1) & build in Kaoss pad 3 "]kaoss pad guitar demo on youtube dude 3: 1 laptop running ableton live & Korg MS20(synth) dude 4 violin or Sax+roland juno 106, roland TB-303 (for old skool sound) or Virus Ti & Nord lead G2+ rack with compressors, equalisers, FX, recording unit & patch that will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 If you really want to be underground I recommend a cave, not a garage. Just kiddin, good luck with the band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 If you really want to be underground I recommend a cave, not a garage. Just kiddin, good luck with the band Cave trance.. Sounds cool.. Btw the link you posted to the track, i only get a 44kb size file, wich my spyware protector reacts on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Btw the link you posted to the track, i only get a 44kb size file, wich my spyware protector reacts on ?Indeed. You posted a 44 byte .cda (cd audio) track, and that format doesn't actually contain any audio, you should convert your track to mp3 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackayah Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 http://www.sendspace.com/file/ds3s4p This may work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Uhhhh, that was just about the stupidest thing i've ever read. So, if you are not Eat Static / Ozric Tentacles, you can not do it? Way to go to inspire something that might be cool and really good!!! As much as I am an asshole, your above comment was just assholeish. And yeah as a tip, Mackayah, Check out Eat Static / Ozric, they are doing some cool stuff I think you don't understand. Jam bands make music spontaniously. Psytrance is programed sequences that don't sound good if you just put any old thing down. It's cool having a good synth with trancy sounds to play while the drummer and guitar are playing but I am thinking about the finished product. There is nothing "assholeish" about my sharing my view from the other side of expirience. But then when your covered in shit everything smells bad eh Nemo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackayah Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 I'm not exactly looking for that programmed sound exactly. I want my keyboards and my computer and the parts of my form and know what sounds to use and how to use them when that part in the song comes. Maybe I'm speaking of the wrong genre, but I do want to here more "trance" style grooves in my music Its not just any old thing we put down when song time comes. Just looking for tips here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I think you don't understand. Jam bands make music spontaniously. Psytrance is programed sequences that don't sound good if you just put any old thing down. It's cool having a good synth with trancy sounds to play while the drummer and guitar are playing but I am thinking about the finished product. There is nothing "assholeish" about my sharing my view from the other side of expirience. But then when your covered in shit everything smells bad eh Nemo. I perfectly understood. And I know a COUPLE of Jambands that actually use pre-programmed sequences and JAM AROUND it. My mates in Sweden do a Psy-Electro-Dub JAM every friday for instance. You are not covered in shit, and you do not smell like shit, your comment just smelled like shit. It sounded very wrong. But with the above CLARIFICATION, I would have to retract my comment to your first post, and apologize for my not so nice behavior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen dream Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I perfectly understood. And I know a COUPLE of Jambands that actually use pre-programmed sequences and JAM AROUND it. My mates in Sweden do a Psy-Electro-Dub JAM every friday for instance. You are not covered in shit, and you do not smell like shit, your comment just smelled like shit. It sounded very wrong. But with the above CLARIFICATION, I would have to retract my comment to your first post, and apologize for my not so nice behavior we could all do with an apology from you here, hothead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 we could all do with an apology from you here, hotheadto you? never. got nothing to apologize to you for. you are still on my ass-hat list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reger Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Did anyone actually listen to what he posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hey Mackayah, have you heard Particle or Sound Tribe Sector 9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackayah Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 Exactly! Thats what I'm about. Thanks for new music and new influences here. What really kinda spurred my curiousity/attention was when i saw the disco bisquits a few times here on the east coast. These bands seem kind of along those lines. Thanks for the new music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I think arps can help you a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergroover Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Psy trance is a very complex genre, its a science almost to learn it and master it, to many advices to give like this briefly, but i do recommend that you invest in a good synthesizer suitable for psy trance, since this genre is heavily based around the synthesizer sound. Some good effects are essential as well, phasers, chorus, flangers, and reverb/delay units. The list just goes on and on. why would it be different to any other style of music? I dont think house or dnb for example is easier to make then psy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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