Guest Daniel Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Now to start off, this isn't a topic about who is better, I don't even want it to go there. I want to hear opinions about both these artists, what you like about them, what comparisons they have and what differences they have....I just got Entheogenics album yesterday and I felt like discussing these two great artists COMPARISIONS: I can't put my finger on it, but something about both their music reminds me of one another...(if someone can help me out feel free) DIFFERENCES: Entheogenic is more organic sounding....like the sounds and music are comming from some rainforest and into our stereos and back out our speakers. They're sound is more melodic, soft and sensual...very peaceful and not so psychedelic. Shpongle uses production to make the listener go "what the fuck was that". The mood of Shpongle isn't as relaxingly peaceful as Entheogenic but more psychedelic and interesting because you never know what's going to happen next. OVERALL I really enjoy both artsist and think they are very different from each other but share a common ground. I'm really not certain why Entheogenics album isn't red flagged, I hope it can be changed. I have come up with an analogy that expresses the styles of Shpongle and Entheogenic IMO... Entheogenic : Mushrooms :: Shpongle : LSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reconstructed Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Although its kinda a dumb idea for an analogy, I would put it more like this: Entheogenic: Mushrooms Shpongle: Salvia HuxFlux: LSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MAOi Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 i always thought shpongle was a crazy idea by Raja ram from smoking the glass pipe ? dmt ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unikos Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 i would love to see simon and raja 's faces when they first heard the entheogenic album... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Well...you do see a bi ups thankyou to Shpongle on the inside of the Entheogenic album. There are many similaraties, the major differnce being thta Entheogenic are more relaxed, whereas Shpongle is more of a trip, and Entheogenic use similar twists in a more minimal way, so it doesn't popund you constantly, just gives a nice little ticke to the cortex of ya brain when you least expect it, Entheogenic asre my no1, but Shpongle is still there for special times :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonathan Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 I wish Etheogenic would have used real vocals instead of those cheesy overdubbed samples that make my spine cringe. Simon and Raja's faces when they first heard it? I bet they were saying: "they stole that from us, and that too, and that's ours, those bastards!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeeperNETWERK Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 I've had this discussion with a few other people, and I'll say it again. Entheogenic is flat... It has no depth. Don't get me wrong, the album is a pleasure to listen to, but they use 'normal' sounds that just aren't interesting enough. Shpongle is about 50 times deeper, it's got the mood, the atmosphere, and the creativity to tear entheogenic down to peices. I've own the entheogenic disk since a few days after it was released and know it pretty well... A few listens later, it's the same old thing... You never hear anything new. I still put in 'Are You Shpongled?" in and hear something new each and every time. I personally feel that they are a cheezy rip of the style shpongle created. Now 'Jadis'... That's a group I'd love to hear more from. (3d vision relax - module 1: track 1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonathan Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 thats the truth right up there. I also own the Etheogenic CD and I really don't listen to it anymore after I've heard it 5 or 6 times now. Shpongle on the other hand, I have heard hundreds maybe thousands of times. Hopefully they will be a little bit more innovative in the future, although I really can't expect much from the 3d Vision label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quazzi Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 What are you guys talking about?! Entheogenic kicks ass!!! As in comparing both of them i would say they're tied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Psychosis Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 ^^^ OMG thank you! Ethneogenics music is beautifully soothing where Shpongles is complex and mysterious....IMO both are just as enjoyable to listen to. They're music is anything but flat....it's very beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest schism Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 hey i have a similar opinion i really like some of Entheogenic's melodies but i can't stand to listen to them. its like access virus overload...too bad cause with some nice analogue gear their cd could be great. right now tho, i just think it sounds cheap/plastic. listen to the filters on their track on module 01- that just screams digital. shpongle on the other hand, some freakin great sounds in there! even though lots of samples and vst/orville fx manipulation, a lot of analogue-based tones as well. really soothing i like both but much prefer shpongle, even tales. maybe cause i'm a 101 phreak. entheogenic definitely rips shpongle in a not so subtle way but u can see shpongle's influence from ozric tentacles etc. simon is just more original... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hippie Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 i became totaly crazy about Shpongle! ...(thank you so much for suggestion Towelie) ....i even changed main page of my site inspired by their music ... www.bohemianhippie.com they`re music Shamans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quazzi Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 Here's the thing, both styles are different. Shpongle is more psychedelic with mindbending sounds, whereas Entheogenic is more like Goa chill-out with beautifull uplifting melodies. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 Someone once told me that Entheogenic was Raja Ram's favorite album last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I wish Etheogenic would have used real vocals instead of those cheesy overdubbed samples that make my spine cringe. 46480[/snapback] I've had this discussion with a few other people, and I'll say it again. Entheogenic is flat... It has no depth. Don't get me wrong, the album is a pleasure to listen to, but they use 'normal' sounds that just aren't interesting enough. Shpongle is about 50 times deeper 46481[/snapback] i really like some of Entheogenic's melodies but i can't stand to listen to them. its like access virus overload...too bad cause with some nice analogue gear their cd could be great. right now tho, i just think it sounds cheap/plastic. listen to the filters on their track on module 01- that just screams digital. 46485[/snapback] Good topic, eh? I THOUGHT I wasn't the only one who found Entheogenic cheap and plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I thought it was daniel from belgium who created this topic but it's old... where do you keep finding them cinos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I thought it was daniel from belgium who created this topic but it's old... where do you keep finding them cinos 312529[/snapback] Remove that annoying page-stretching signature and I'll tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Remove that annoying page-stretching signature and I'll tell you. 312530[/snapback] just because you ask me too... I won't and If you ask again I'll double it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Ok, but I can't quote your posts. Not like you have anything I WANT to quote either, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 and why should I be satisfied if you quote my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyhead Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I liked the older Shpongle, today Entheogenic are my favourits. They have more feeling in their compositions. Both are good, but Entheogenic has the extra something that does it better for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rain Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 but Entheogenic has the extra something that does it better for me. 312628[/snapback] true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericflyer Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I find Entheogenic much deeper in their expressions, Shpongle is a master of effects and techniques, but Entheogenic delivers more emotion, more mhh.. just more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfly Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 DIFFERENCES: Entheogenic is more organic sounding....like the sounds and music are comming from some rainforest and into our stereos and back out our speakers. They're sound is more melodic, soft and sensual...very peaceful and not so psychedelic. Shpongle uses production to make the listener go "what the fuck was that". The mood of Shpongle isn't as relaxingly peaceful as Entheogenic but more psychedelic and interesting because you never know what's going to happen next. OVERALL I really enjoy both artsist and think they are very different from each other but share a common ground. I'm really not certain why Entheogenics album isn't red flagged, I hope it can be changed. I have come up with an analogy that expresses the styles of Shpongle and Entheogenic IMO... Entheogenic : Mushrooms :: Shpongle : LSD 46475[/snapback] Entheogenic has more of that Organic sound from Mushrooms or Ayahuasca, Shpongle has something a bit more synthetic. I also get the feeling Entheogenic uses more overall musicality, Shpongle more techniques and effects. Actually I can't compare them, and I don't listen much to Shpongle anymore. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Where is the world going? How can you think SHPONGLE sounds synthethic? You are sick! Entheogenic is the plastic music here, damnit! Shpongle is like lifeforms... the most organic stuff ever bar FSOL - Lifeforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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