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Would you pay 100,000 Euros plus expenses for Shpongle Live?

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willB3

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http://www.archive.org/details/Shpongle_Live_contract_AUS

 

This is the signed contract.

 

It says nowhere on the contract that the event can't be advertised till Jan 2009.

 

Ron Rivlin is Simon Posford's agent http://www.coastiicoastent.com/main/

Hallucinogen , Shpongle DJ set agent.

 

Ask Ron Rivlin about a Currency trading investment company that the company ended up being false and the Directors ran off with everyone's money. Who's money it was and his connection. If you don't get a answer you can try these links

http://www.irs.gov/ http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/index.htm

 

This might be the very reason why Raja Ram won't agree to do shpongle live through Ron Rivlin and CoastiiCoast . Also a major question around the contract fee Contract signed for on behalf of the band Simon Holtom Manager Twisted Records London UK and Spiro Boursine Promoter, Dance Aid Pty,Ltd, Melbourne Australia. This is about money and somebody loosing a lot of money that was invested into a bogus company , seems someone is trying to make some money back they lost of other peoples money into a bad investment.

 

The Shpongle Live, news release here http://twisted.co.uk/shponglelive/Shpongle...nt08.12.08.html also here http://www.archive.org/details/httptwisted...ement08.12.08.h does bare some thought to serious questioning against the contract here http://www.archive.org/details/Shpongle_Live_contract_AUS

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I don't understand half of the post with the government links and all but what i understood by reading the contract downloadable at the link is that this agency wanted to book shponlge live, did not make the basic deposit to secure the show and started selling tickets in australia for the event. and then ran off with the money. is that what happened? i may be wrong of course, but it seems to me that this is what happened.

a very bad thing if is the case.

 

i hope i will see shpongle live sometimes :)

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i hope i will see shpongle live sometimes :)

Ditto! (Especially thinking of a whole Sphonglie' show with all the works)

 

If Juno Reactor* can get booked to a general music festival (Ie. Roskilde, DK) where they have the funds/money to allow a full blown show,

then I see no reason why Shpongle can't do it..

 

*Arvika Festivalen (Sweden) 2006 was amazing! :D I mean, a full tribe of African stompers jumping, singing and playing all over the place,

how soopa isn't that yo!

 

 

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NEMO.BOFH

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I was tempted to close this, as I thought this might be some scam, Spam thing, but check out the previous posts by the guy, and you will see that it is not a bot:

 

http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?s=...st&p=918364

 

So, there seems to be some confusion in his post, and coming from Australia, his English is not the best, but still, I think it is pretty interesting :) Lets see where this leads (willb3 can you please elaborate?!) :)

 

//Nemo.NOFH

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Colin OOOD

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The guy's a nutter and works for Earthcore in Australia; we had problems on The Other Place with him when he was posting promo for EC before their recent festival, and he took exception to criticism from forum members who had prior experience of EC's tactics. His post above was posted on Isratrance and a few other places too but has since been deleted.

 

Given that they speak English in Australia, I feel fairly safe in saying the confusion and poor English skills (much deteriorated from his posts on Psymusic) is due to the fact that he's foaming at the mouth.

 

Here's how it looks to me:

1. EC organise a festival in November - about 70%(!!!) of the international acts cancel after being told their fee is being reduced to 20% of it's agreed level. Some acts cancel when their deposits are not paid. Some acts are then threatened with legal action if they don't turn up and perform anyway. Local acts and crew are apparently not paid at all; the festival sells out and no refunds are given: http://forum.isratrance.com/protoculture-earthcore/

2. EC (trading under a different name) book Shpongle for 2 gigs in 2009. EC start promoting immediately, selling out of tickets for one of the shows, despite an agreement not to promote until the deposit for the fee has been paid. Deposit is not paid. Shpongle therefore cancel the booking as per the contract signed with EC. No refunds are given: http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=239889

3. Prior to this, EC announce a relocation out of Australian legal jurisdiction and an end to their Australian events. They've now walked off with pretty much the entire takings for both a major festival and a major cancelled gig.

 

You do the sums and then consider exactly how much weight and respect to give to someone who defends the actions of this promoter with attempted smokescreen, misdirection and outright lies.

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The guy's a nutter and works for Earthcore in Australia; we had problems on The Other Place with him when he was posting promo for EC before their recent festival, and he took exception to criticism from forum members who had prior experience of EC's tactics. His post above was posted on Isratrance and a few other places too but has since been deleted.

 

Given that they speak English in Australia, I feel fairly safe in saying the confusion and poor English skills (much deteriorated from his posts on Psymusic) is due to the fact that he's foaming at the mouth.

 

Here's how it looks to me:

1. EC organise a festival in November - about 70%(!!!) of the international acts cancel after being told their fee is being reduced to 20% of it's agreed level. Some acts cancel when their deposits are not paid. Some acts are then threatened with legal action if they don't turn up and perform anyway. Local acts and crew are apparently not paid at all; the festival sells out and no refunds are given: http://forum.isratrance.com/protoculture-earthcore/

2. EC (traing under a different name) book Shpongle for 2 gigs in 2009. EC start promoting immediately, selling out of tickets for one of the shows, despite an agreement not to promote until the deposit for the fee has been paid. Deposit is not paid. Shpongle therefore cancel the booking as per the contract signed with EC. No refunds are given: http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=239889

3. Prior to this, EC announce a relocation out of Australian legal jurisdiction and an end to their Australian events. They've now walked off with pretty much the entire takings for both a major festival and a major cancelled gig.

 

You do the sums and then consider exactly how much weight and respect to give to someone who defends the actions of this promoter with attempted smokescreen, misdirection and outright lies.

Hmmm, so what would you like me to do? Is this fact?! Should this thread be closed and/or even set invisible? :)
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Colin OOOD

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Hmmm, so what would you like me to do? Is this fact?! Should this thread be closed and/or even set invisible? :)

Email Twisted, ask them. According to Napo, Pavel asked for the one on Isra to be removed; "he said it was something like unethical and smeling revenge", and I can see his point. It's certainly unprofessional, and I'm sure Twisted wouldn't really like the world to know that it costs €50,000 to book Shpongle for a live set (although you have to ask youself WHY they wouldn't like it known).
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Email Twisted, ask them. According to Napo, Pavel asked for the one on Isra to be removed; "he said it was something like unethical and smeling revenge", and I can see his point. It's certainly unprofessional, and I'm sure Twisted wouldn't really like the world to know that it costs €50,000 to book Shpongle for a live set (although you have to ask youself WHY they wouldn't like it known).

Yeah, ill do so. And I will lock this topic.

 

€50,000 for a live set?

 

Talk about milking the cow..

 

Well looks like the guy behind EC has closed the site down (a.k.a. website in maintenance). Seems like a hit&run to me.

John Digweed costs as a DJ 30.000. :)

 

Funny story.

I think it should remain unlocked.

Nope.
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