Brandon Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I'm looking some of those early influential, transformational tracks, where trance started to develop the goa sound. Obviously some producers had some very trancey tracks & then later jumped straight to a goa sound, which is not what I mean. That border territory where trance & goa sound began is what I want to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkarbiter Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Electric universe-One love the album generally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Earliest I can think of.... MK - Divisions (techno mix) 1991 Presence - Presence In The House 1991 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OkU7woOQ3s Megabeat - Twin Beats 1991 Unfortunately no video available. However, I can give you a link to the track if you give me a PM. And then some... E-Rection - Smoke My Dang-a-long 1992 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CofuKaNlmxE...feature=related Juno Reactor - High Energy Protons 1993 (^ I think the version on the video is orion mix from 1994 which is slightly improven version if you ask me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkarbiter Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Juno Reactor - High Energy Protons 1993 (^ I think the version on the video is orion mix from 1994 which is slightly improven version if you ask me) The orion mix is one of those mixes that kind've sounds improved. Then you listen to the original... and theres something more basic and magical and fun that the remix is just missing. So the remix ends up getting maybe a 7/10... with the original being an 8/9 /10 imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I was also about to mention the "Transmissions" album by Juno Reactor in 1993. Else, definitely Union Jack sound on Platipus records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no-nonsense Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Early techno/trance/industrial stuff with pre-goa vibes: KLF - What Time Is Love (Pure Trance) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNvgXJdZJZY Shaolin Wooden Men - Ohar Trilithon - Trance Dance LDC - T-Raumreise Techno Bert - Neue Dimensionen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkafv5mmg-A Konzept - Hypnautic Beats (Razormaid Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLnbjdp8RnU Visions Of Shiva - How Much Can You Take Public Relation - Eighty Eight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOgssAlYzw Zen Paradox - Minon Sunsonic - A Kind of Loving Atahualpa - Ultimo Imperio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLQol-8oX0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Earliest I can think of.... MK - Divisions (techno mix) 1991 Presence - Presence In The House 1991 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OkU7woOQ3s Megabeat - Twin Beats 1991 Unfortunately no video available. However, I can give you a link to the track if you give me a PM. And then some... E-Rection - Smoke My Dang-a-long 1992 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CofuKaNlmxE...feature=related Juno Reactor - High Energy Protons 1993 (^ I think the version on the video is orion mix from 1994 which is slightly improven version if you ask me) Thanks, interesting suggestions. I didn't realize there any that old, especially from 91-92 era. The MK track definitely doesn't sound like the rest of the Get it right EP. E-rection makes sense though, although kind of obnoxious with the samples. It definitely has that early goa sound which obviously later continued with the Out here we is stoned immaculate Jim Morrison theme. I was also about to mention the "Transmissions" album by Juno Reactor in 1993. Else, definitely Union Jack sound on Platipus records. I had to give Transmissions a listen, I completely forgot about it. I forgot how good it is. I've mostly been listening around to some of the Acid/Electronic genre and hearing some influences too. Maybe not the melodies so much but the spacey sound, an occasional melody & samples etc.. early Tunnel Records stuff, Alien Reign label & other random tracks.. xme-automatic lover, moondust, after sunset...x-dream-5th dimension etc. I'll have to explore some of the other tracks suggested; some really good stuff I've been finding! It seems like the boundary is really about 1994 though. I'll be listening through some old tracks & hear one that really catches my attention & it'll be a 94 or 95 release. I'm guessing that once George Barker, Adam Boyd & Dominic Lamb, Ronnie Biggs, Simon Posford started working together to some degree is when so much other stuff spawned as well. I can't get enough of early tracks like, the rising, anytime, & wizard. Amazing track "The Rising" considering it was actually written in '92. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karan129 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 A.B. Kazes - Out of Space Trance I felt it had this "innocent" feel to it =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Juno Reactor - High Energy Protons 1993 (^ I think the version on the video is orion mix from 1994 which is slightly improven version if you ask me) I prefer this, which is the original I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Early techno/trance/industrial stuff with pre-goa vibes: KLF - What Time Is Love (Pure Trance) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNvgXJdZJZY Shaolin Wooden Men - Ohar Trilithon - Trance Dance LDC - T-Raumreise Techno Bert - Neue Dimensionen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkafv5mmg-A Konzept - Hypnautic Beats (Razormaid Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLnbjdp8RnU Visions Of Shiva - How Much Can You Take Public Relation - Eighty Eight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOgssAlYzw Zen Paradox - Minon Sunsonic - A Kind of Loving Atahualpa - Ultimo Imperio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLQol-8oX0 Thanks a lot m8...really cool tracks there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travbrad1001 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yeah, thanks for all of the links. I find it really fascinating looking at how genres formed/evolved. It's amazing how goaish (is that a word ) some of those tracks from the early 90s sounded. If you played that E-Rection song and asked what genre it was, I'd say "goa" without a second thought. Even the stuff from 1990/1991 was already beginning to form that distinctive goa sound. Who would have thought the scene would be so "big" only a few years later (okay our scene isn't THAT big, but there are tons of artists producing psytrance). I also find it interesting from the technology perspective. It's amazing how much the sound has developed in the last 15-20 years (for better or worse). I can't even being to imagine the type of stuff we may be hearing in another 15-20 years. Okay it may not be as big as the difference between pre-goa and modern psytrance, but I still think we have some innovation and development of sound to go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Carnage Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Check out Overlords (with Ian Ion - later Koxbox and Psychopod) tracks like "Sundown"(1991) and "Wow! Mr. Yogi"(1993) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Check out Overlords (with Ian Ion - later Koxbox and Psychopod) tracks like "Sundown"(1991) and "Wow! Mr. Yogi"(1993) Sundown reeks of goa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4lc_2MpMI4 There was a remix of it that was even better, too bad it's been taken off on youtube and I lost it with my old pc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 Sundown reeks of goa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4lc_2MpMI4 There was a remix of it that was even better, too bad it's been taken off on youtube and I lost it with my old pc. Try Ligamusic.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoff cruddle Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 The whole point back then in the early 90s, was that before people got anal and dogmatic about labelling sub-genres, there was all sorts of great electronic music, which may or my not have been proto-goa or have influenced goa/pie-trance, which was just a glorious melting pot of techno/trance/acid/tribal/industrial whatever you want to call it. Juno Reactor were definitely one of note (and I am sure I read somewhere that Mr Watkins firmly denies they ever were psytrance!), but also all sorts of things such as the Orb, Orbital, definitely Banco de Gaia...hell you could easily say that a lot of the industrial/IDM stuff from the late 80s like Front 242 had some proto-Goaness about it. Frankly who gives a monkey's as long as it is good music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 check out the 1990-1994 section of the review section of this site. I regularly put reviews of such EPs when I get hold of them and consider they are worth the effort. OMG I can't believe noone mentioned Dance 2 Trance - We Came In Peace which is seen by many as THE first "proper" trance track. other interesting finds that were not already mentioned here: Metropolis - Time of War (1991) Mr Klaus - The Dreammer (1991) also check out the comp V/A - Classic Trax, a selection of some of the first trance tracks (all tracks were made between 1990 and 1993) compiled by one of the pioneers of the israeli trance scene, Guy Sebbag. I've found some real gems in there PS I find all the infatuation with Juno Reactor way overhyped since his stuff can't really be qualified as trance IMO...Watkins himself described his High Energy Protons track as being "progressive techno"... I think most people in the scene mention him simply because he's one of the rare artists from the time who still releases stuff today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Eat Static - Abduction Juno Reactor - Transmissions Union Jack - There Will Be No Armageddon And early Dragonfly compilations. As well as THIS ONE: http://www.discogs.com/release/226694 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krelmatrix Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 And early Dragonfly compilations. Yeah, I'd recommend the first Dragonfly compilation, Project II Trance from 1993. For me, it really rides that line between trance & early goa - it's still a little bit more primative than what you were already hearing in 1994-96, but it's still got that flavor running through it, which separates it from a lot of other stuff out in those days. Also some really early tracks from Razor's Edge - I'm thinking specifically of the "Exquisite Sin" single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yeah, I'd recommend the first Dragonfly compilation, Project II Trance from 1993. For me, it really rides that line between trance & early goa - it's still a little bit more primative than what you were already hearing in 1994-96, but it's still got that flavor running through it, which separates it from a lot of other stuff out in those days. Also some really early tracks from Razor's Edge - I'm thinking specifically of the "Exquisite Sin" single. Early Razor's Edge, not bad, very smooth; although I'm listening to the '96 released album "Exquisite Sin'. The tracks all seem to come from a few years before; very enjoyable stuff though! Ahhh smooth clean basslines, so nice. So many good recommendations. The Overlords - Sundown hasn't left my playlist in days. :posford: I just received Zen Paradox - Eternal Brainwave in the mail a few days ago & looking forward to giving it a listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Juno Reactor were definitely one of note (and I am sure I read somewhere that Mr Watkins firmly denies they ever were psytrance!), but also all sorts of things such as the Orb, Orbital, definitely Banco de Gaia...hell you could easily say that a lot of the industrial/IDM stuff from the late 80s like Front 242 had some proto-Goaness about it. Frankly who gives a monkey's as long as it is good music. I had to laugh, your comment reminded me; Andrew Eldritch of The Sisters of Mercy would say he didn't understand why people thought they were gothic & that was never their aim. Whether either group were or weren't is debatable, but hearing artists try to squirm out from under the label they've been slapped with I'm sure is frustrating for them, and a little funny to me for some reason. People decide what you are and thats it you're screwed. On the other hand 8 million people say "yeah listen to it it's psytrance obviously" or "it's gothic" and the artist says "no, no it's not". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyantcuttlefish Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Others have already mentioned Orbital, but I'd like to mention one track in particular, Remind, from the 1993 album Orbital 2. The rest of the album is what might you might call trance and ambient dub, but that track definitely sounds like Goa trance, 303 and all. Youtube link: Two good early trance albums with some hints of Goa sound are Tranceformed from beyond (1992) and X-Mix 1 (1993) from MFS. Some tracks can be found on youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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