Ormion Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 http://www.psyshop.com/shop/Charts.html Isn't Psyshop supposed to be a psytrance shop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTP Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I did it once. I downloaded the whole chart to get some fresh air, too see what's the world up too. And I was throwing up for the rest of the week. It was mix of uninspiring repeting prog-psy of very average quality. Since then I don't wonder anymore why the world is going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 charts are based on sales... do you trust them? FOOLS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTP Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 charts are based on sales... do you trust them? FOOLS! But then st. is wrong, because category of "beaty" is of universal principle and if people prefer ugliness... just imagine Hustler with the fat, ugly chicks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 charts are based on sales... Yes, and I suspect there's another factor at play here: psyshop doesn't stock enough of many decent CDs for them to chart, even if they're popular. I noticed, for example, that Midnight's Shared Blossom was out of stock within days of its release, but was nowhere to be seen in their top 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai-Q Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I think the charts are also conduce as promotion, for newcommers who starts with listening of psychedelic trance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0fane Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Yes, and I suspect there's another factor at play here: psyshop doesn't stock enough of many decent CDs for them to chart, even if they're popular. I noticed, for example, that Midnight's Shared Blossom was out of stock within days of its release, but was nowhere to be seen in their top 20. Are you saying that Psyshop does that on purpose? From a financial point of view that simply doesn't make sense. Psyshop is a company made to make money - then why on earth would they stock less of a batch of CD's, when they know they are going to sell? It's probably the fault of the distribution instead. I don't know if you can count on the Psyshop charts, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were true - acts like SUN Project, Vibrasphere, Atmos, Symphonix, Electric Universe, Sesto Sento, Space Tribe, Neelix, Liquid Soul, Neelix etc. are very popular, so it's no wonder they've made it to the top20. You might wonder about some of the more unknown releases like New Perspective vol 2. and the Minoru album, but they are both from pretty big German labels and have both been featured as CD of the week. Saikosounds has a chart as well by the way: http://www.saikosounds.com/english/top_ten.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Are you saying that Psyshop does that on purpose? Huh? No, of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0fane Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Huh? No, of course not. Ok, that was just how I interpreted your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Seems to me people buy alot of crap on psyshop, at least according to that toplist. Alien Project vinyl's are at #1? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ok, that was just how I interpreted your post I apologise. I was merely attempting to point out that psyshop's chart should be considered a self-fulfilling prophecy as much as a genuine indicator of popularity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I don't really understand why you people are complaining? 6 of the top 10 positions are held by popular psy artists: 1. SUN Project 2. Vibrasphere 3. Atmos 7. Electric Universe 8. Sesto Sento 9. Space Tribe ... what exactly did you people expect to see in the top 10 if not these names??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 I don't really understand why you people are complaining? 6 of the top 10 positions are held by popular psy artists: 1. SUN Project 2. Vibrasphere 3. Atmos 7. Electric Universe 8. Sesto Sento 9. Space Tribe ... what exactly did you people expect to see in the top 10 if not these names??? Since Psyshop is a psytrance shop it should have only psytrance acts in their charts. Take a listen to the rest (except Phatmatix and Ace Ventura) and tell me how do you call this music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Nothing too surprising there. What's the fuss about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Nothing too surprising there. What's the fuss about? Where the psytrance went? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Since Psyshop is a psytrance shop it should have only psytrance acts in their charts. Take a listen to the rest (except Phatmatix and Ace Ventura) and tell me how do you call this music. ok, I don't know ALL the names but from the ones I know: S.U.N. Project : well-known psytrance act Vibrasphere: well-known psytrance act Atmos: well-known psytrance act Electric Universe: well-known psytrance act Sesto Sento: well-known psytrance act Space Tribe: well-known psytrance act Ovnimoon: well-known psytrance act Chromosome: well-known psytrance act Alien Project: well-known psytrance act Infected Mushroom: well-known psytrance act Fatali: well-known psytrance act Unless you're from some parallel universe where this music is called rock and roll, I fail to see your problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Compilation - New Perspective 2 Symphonix - The Wild Life Minoru - Minoru Compilation - 1001 Flights Neelix - You're Under Control Compilation - Time Table Liquid Soul - Love In Stereo How about these? Anyway maybe it's failed topic, but I found strange to see so many non psytrance releases in Psytrance shop, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) This is an authentic list of the most bought albums on psyshop, right? There is no bribes in the picture by YSE, eh? lol So isn't there a saying that states; "The majority is almost* always wrong"' "Tastes are like asses, their separated and most often they stink" ? *Where is psykovsky on that list? *cool to see S.U.N. Projects ion numba ona. Not my cup but props their way! Nostalgic :] Btw. Something off the topic thing word I just found in the dictionary and wanted some ?'s on: psyton /si:'ton/ n. [TMRC] The elementary particle carrying the sinister force. The probability of a process losing is proportional to the number of psytons falling on it. Psytons are generated by observers, which is why demos are more likely to fail when lots of people are watching. [This term appears to have been largely superseded by bogon; see also quantum bogodynamics. --ESR] Edited February 1, 2009 by psytones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Btw. Something off the topic thing word I just found in the dictionary and wanted some ?'s on: psyton /si:'ton/ n. [TMRC] The elementary particle carrying the sinister force. The probability of a process losing is proportional to the number of psytons falling on it. Psytons are generated by observers, which is why demos are more likely to fail when lots of people are watching. [This term appears to have been largely superseded by bogon; see also quantum bogodynamics. --ESR] Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Cool! 42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Compilation - New Perspective 2 Symphonix - The Wild Life Minoru - Minoru Compilation - 1001 Flights Neelix - You're Under Control Compilation - Time Table Liquid Soul - Love In Stereo How about these? Anyway maybe it's failed topic, but I found strange to see so many non psytrance releases in Psytrance shop, that's all. well progressive psy is officially psytrance, even if not everyone's cup of tea and a lot of people (including me) would like to see it off the "official psytrance subgenre" list... I can't really comment on all the names since I'm not much into progressive but I know a few people from psynews love the stuff released by Iboga records so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Well sure, I do not see stuff like Perfect Stranger, Ticon or The Delta as psy anymore, and of course, it is a bit wrong to sell it on "PsyShop"... but so should not some of the Dark Psy, as for me, it has nothing to do with PSY TRANCE anymore. But on the other hand, as so many people have pointed out to me, they are deriviates of PSY and... oh well, its a never ending story. Catch my drift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathmandu Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I say all of those releases have right to be sold on psyshop. Psytrance is a lifestyle just not music for many of us. With festivals going for days, we need different kinds of music to be played at different times of day and different times of the festival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 well progressive psy is officially psytrance, even if not everyone's cup of tea and a lot of people (including me) would like to see it off the "official psytrance subgenre list"... I can't really comment on all the names since I'm not much into progressive but I know a few people from psynews love the stuff released by Iboga records so... Well sure, I do not see stuff like Perfect Stranger, Ticon or The Delta as psy anymore, and of course, it is a bit wrong to sell it on "PsyShop"... but so should not some of the Dark Psy, as for me, it has nothing to do with PSY TRANCE anymore. But on the other hand, as so many people have pointed out to me, they are deriviates of PSY and... oh well, its a never ending story. Catch my drift? Well you both got me wrong here. Of course I believe that Prog is a psytrance subgenre. This is why I said that Ace Ventura is psytrance. I can also understand acts that once was a psytrance group but not anymore (like Ticon) being on that list. But Neelix? Or the 1001 Flights comp? That's not progressive psytrance, not even progressive trance. Remember the Peter Gun (or something) debut album? Psyshop promoted it although it was a tech house. It seems that Psyshop has a big profit from this kind of releases. And it's kinda strange a psyshop to sell so many non psy cds (and especially vinyls). That is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMO.BOFH Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Well you both got me wrong here. Of course I believe that Prog is a psytrance subgenre. This is why I said that Ace Ventura is psytrance. I can also understand acts that once was a psytrance group but not anymore (like Ticon) being on that list. But Neelix? Or the 1001 Flights comp? That's not progressive psytrance, not even progressive trance. Remember the Peter Gun (or something) debut album? Psyshop promoted it although it was a tech house. It seems that Psyshop has a big profit from this kind of releases. And it's kinda strange a psyshop to sell so many non psy cds (and especially vinyls). That is all Do you think that they will stop selling stuff cause it is not Psy enough? Remember that it is in their interest to sell and make money, and therefor, it does not matter if it derives from the original idea of the site. Maybe they should change name of the site, but that makes little sense either. So, until we are less "genre focused", we have to live with the fact that stuff that is not PSY will be sold on PsyShop Yeah, and it might be sad for some people that some NON PSY releases are in the top sellers, but thats just how it is, and I can only suggest that you LIVE WITH IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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