venom455 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 New astral track the one:- Also on myspace with a new remix http://www.myspace.com/astralprojectionavilior AMAZING track esp the one wow astral you guys are still gods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Not bad. I bought "One" off Juno and played it in a recent morning set. It had a fairly warm reception... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 "You are on the fucking moon" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hmmm.. the style is kind of like a mix of Another World and Amen. I'm getting mixed feelings, but it still has that AP flavour if you catch my drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hmmm.. the style is kind of like a mix of Another World and Amen. I'm getting mixed feelings, but it still has that AP flavour if you catch my drift. +1 Nice track for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I liked it! Can't wait for the new album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen dream Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 pretty mellow and shallow but it does the trick fo sho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 umm let's just say that I'll forever respect Astral for what they were... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathmandu Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 putting on Dancing Galaxy now. hey Lemminwinks, this is pretty cool top 10 lost goatrancer habits: 10. Thinking that all the answers to life's mystries were held in RA Wilson's books. 9. Feeling proud when someone called you a freak. 8. Worshiping the Roland 303 like it was some sort of machine god. 7. Mixing using DAT tapes. 6. Writing "604" everywhere and laughing at people who didn't understand what it meant. 5. Thinking that the more different colors you wore at the same time, the smarter you looked. 4. Ending all your posts with "Bom Shankar". 3. Saying "namaste" instead of "hello". 2. Believing that dancing while tripping your nuts off was a spiritual experience. 1. Thinking that listening to goatrance made you an intelectually superior being!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 hey Lemminwinks, this is pretty cool top 10 lost goatrancer habits: 10. Thinking that all the answers to life's mystries were held in RA Wilson's books. 9. Feeling proud when someone called you a freak. 8. Worshiping the Roland 303 like it was some sort of machine god. 7. Mixing using DAT tapes. 6. Writing "604" everywhere and laughing at people who didn't understand what it meant. 5. Thinking that the more different colors you wore at the same time, the smarter you looked. 4. Ending all your posts with "Bom Shankar". 3. Saying "namaste" instead of "hello". 2. Believing that dancing while tripping your nuts off was a spiritual experience. 1. Thinking that listening to goatrance made you an intelectually superior being!! thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom455 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 thanks I dont get it, if anything it has the same vibe as the earlier material, you'r saying this is sold out commercial stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom455 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 It is commercial, its featured on ministry of sound.. but then again astral where always commercially successful.. their older albums all sold very good. For me personally i dont care if its commercial or not for me its about good or bad music according to my personal taste.. and to me these new tracks sound like they wanted to have a bit of the old trade mark astral lead sounds, but with the latest killargh full on bass and some full on tricks like that reverb on the kick before a break etc, kind of like just so that a new full on label would release it. For some reason BNE didnt release it, due to reasons wich i dont know. I think these tracks sound good in some parts, but somewhere they get lost.. the energy/inspiration and the build from their glory days is not there for me, my mind dont get in a trance state as its ruined for me by the full on tricks. All in all a very plastic and faded return. I prefer listening to some real music with feelings like RA or any other of new school guys who still does it for the love of music. For me, astral always had that cross over appeal in their music, that doesnt mean its not good, I myself am delighted that they stuck to their magical melodies + some full on tricks in there, I think they do it for the love of music otherwise they would have just made the standard bs no melody fullon with the killaaah base and released an album long ago. Imo they have evolved their style over the years perfectly, 7 years to be precise since Chaos, anyway thats just IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I think it's ok Reminds me of Yahel - Waves of sound... And I like it alot as a listening-album. Not really for parties, but nice listening music when the sun is shining And I'm glad it is not too full on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I don't quite understand the relentless criticism of Astral Projection... they've never wavered too far from their original path--which always had commercial appeal, if you ask me. BTW: BNE is kaput. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom455 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 I don't quite understand the relentless criticism of Astral Projection... they've never wavered too far from their original path--which always had commercial appeal, if you ask me. BTW: BNE is kaput. Couldnt have said it any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I think these tracks sound good in some parts, but somewhere they get lost.. the energy/inspiration and the build from their glory days is not there for me, my mind dont get in a trance state as its ruined for me by the full on tricks. All in all a very plastic and faded return. I prefer listening to some real music with feelings like RA or any other of new school guys who still does it for the love of music.I agree. They can't hold up to the older stuff, it's nice and such, not bad at all, but there's some power or something missing... It's become too much "daa daa" plastic trance and too little psychedelic sharpness. But nevermind, I'm quite confident that I'll get the album anyway. It's better than most fullon out there and, well, it's Astral ... and it still has their trademark sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 And Anoebis, yes Yahels-Waves Of Sound album is indeed very good I have it right here, to me it is a bit like a Israeli version of Man With No Name album Moment Of Truth. What i like a lot with Waves Of Sound album is the key changes and lead sounds, MDMA trance Sun Scream = KillerOhh, I should to take a listen to that album. I'm a big MWNN fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaman of sound Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Its no secret. i am a very big fan of astral projection. as musicians and as human beeings. i can honestly say that this track (One) is acctually a good surprise. it has much of the astralic touch. especially in the begining of the track. It reminds me alot Ames style, which some tracks in that album i liked alot. i have asked Avi Nissim snd he told me that the next album "open society" is going to be totally in that style. Its no secret. we all like Astrals older music. including myself. who doesnt? mastrpice albums like trust in trance 3, dancing galaxy and another world will allways have a place of honour in the trance hall of fame. i told that issue to avi too. i told him that all over the world (and i was talking about this forum especially) people would like to hear Astral of the 90's style. thier emotional and melodic trance music that pierced the hearts of those who heard it. he told me that: "it is no problem for us to so another 96 style album, but we felt we wanted to move on and creat new kind of new trance with touches of our own style." that was 3 and a half years ago. these 3.5 years were very difficult for astral. just left phonokol, with no label who will take care of thier buisness such as booking shows, marketing, publishing etc. the had to do it all by themself. its very hard to take for all that and still pruduce quality music, and have a personal life. Avi is devorsed +1 and Lior is remarried if im not mistaken and has a baby. Not a picnic or a walk in the park. then astral found BNE and we thought that things are going to be more arranged now, more clear about the future. But unfortunally the bad luck continues. After two years of divers relationship between Astral and BNE the whole thing collapsed. my theory and i am allmost sure that is what happend is: problems with shows booking. how it started? well, if you ask me it goes back to the early phonokol times. Phonokol is not a serius label at all. and i heard manny artists who said that. they dont take a good care of thier artist. Astral who had a contract with phonokol couldnot go out. they saw that phonokol are not taking care of them and booking them for live shows, so Astral started to do that by themselves. that things went on for few years and till Astral had enough. (you can see that in nov 2005 they released the compilation "back to galaxy at com.pact rec. i asked avi if that means that they left phonokol and he told me that it is thier last warning). they started to look for another label. the have found bne in 2006. its a more mature label for sure, but i think astral had bad habbits left from phonokol (booking shows by themselves). so i guess BNE did not liked that story too much and the things bloo out few months ago when BNE decided too sue astral. situation for the moment: Astral are still looking for a labes to released the anticipated album "open society". Astral are still booking shows for themselves. so, to sum it all up, i think what we have here (One) is much more than you can expect of this due nowdays. and as i said in the start: it is no secret. I am a very big fan of astral projection. As musicians, But even more as human beeings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 situation for the moment: Astral are still looking for a labes to released the anticipated album "open society". Enter Suntrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Enter Suntrip Lol, we could probably afford 1 track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaman of sound Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Enter Suntrip well, its not a bad idea, but i think Astral would rather to stay in an Israeli label, or release and publish thier new album in Trust in trance records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 What a tribute that would be to Suntrip tho. But yeah.. I don't see it hapenning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai-Q Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 What is with Avatar, Agitato, Com.Pact Records or Spliff Music? Are they not good too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 What is with Avatar, Agitato, Com.Pact Records or Spliff Music? Are they not good too? I think those labels are not rich enough and don't have enough distribution channels. They are ONLY known in the goa scene, I'm sure Astral wants to break out of this "small" scene. Also, I have huge respect for Astral, I listen to their music - still - weekly, but I saw them twice live last 2 years, and twice they were SO wasted that it was almost disgusting. Their last live act I saw they almost fell of the stage, and Avi Nissim was waving his hands the whole time like a real Tiesto. After their live they were shouting to everyone etc... So that's something I will not forget either. As a person they seem to have some problems as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaman of sound Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 @ shaman of sound, Thanks for the brief story about Astrals situation, it gives a little perspective. And it makes sense, especially the part about the labels + bookings, so basically BNE probably where mad because they didnt get some percent of money from the live shows, strange however that Phonokol didnt care to find bookings for them and try to get some money from that... but hey what do we know really about what goes on behind the labels doors if they manage to release the album on their own label Trust In Trance Records, then the circle is closed since thats where it began.. oh wait.. "Time began with the universe" :drama: Imagine if Yaniv Haviv would return to the group and guide them back to the old style you're wellcome it is all theory though. but it sounds very logical and as you saw, there are manny things to base it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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