Guest Setsuko Posted March 29, 2003 Share Posted March 29, 2003 .. anybody knows what happened to the breakbeat experimental sublabel of MPDQX . I notices the vsual breaks logo is gone from the index page ... .. oh yeah , something else .... what stand MPDQX actually for . is it something with their names ? psy bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Krelm Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 My guess regarding the breaks sub label is that they had to can it since sales aren't so good right now. Sort of like how the Son Kite live CD ended up as a free download. Such a shame since I was really looking forward to see what they could come up with from that angle. Son Kite, Ticon, or Vibrasphere making breaks would be damned wicked. Maybe we can hope for some more breaks-ish material finding its way into DS, VSUAL or Baluns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 indeed that could be one of the reasons why the progress has come to an end ... It's so damn sad to hear labels like DS and also Plastic Park have financial difficulties . In an interview with Yaniv from hadshot i read some interesting stuff about the difficulties in this scene .. we all know the mp3 and copy hype is ruining the underground music but something I thought that was realy interesting was the fact that party organisers should not allow dj's that mostly play copied material ... this is imo one of the mean reasons why things are going bad ... In commercial dance scenes the music is mostly released on vinyl .. whether psytrance has more of a cd distribution network .. so pirating psytrance is very easy ... imo things should be focused on that ... dj's should play original music because they are the ones that buy (copy) most new stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 Setsuko is right... I never ask a dj without original cd's on my parties... Sounds cruel but this is the only way at least SOME artists get better sales anyway, I think it's going so bad because there are FAR TOO MANY releases with many many crappy ones... There are a few (5-10) new psy-cds every week... nobody can afford that! 2-3 years ago there was maximum 2-3 release every week! And I don't think the scene grew that rapidly! Also, many label owners are not really smart by releasing always the same stuff... 6 years ago it was ALL melodic, 3 years ago almost all minimal and now almost all gms-like (with a splitted progressive scene)... i think it would be good some labels would concentrate again on music which people like... And héhé, that's NOT only gms and X-Dream..... How many people aren't screaming for some more melodic on this forum... Doesn't that ring a bell? also there are way too many people without job etc that simply can't buy cds and still love the music... So what do they do? Copy it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 to much releases for sure (many crappy ones indeed) but i have my favourite labels I can rely on like DS , Iboga , Flow , Plusquam , Spiral Trax etc... about innovation .. well imo some progressive acts really have some interesting ideas .. just check Tegma . so fresh ! and i realy can't put a real name to their music .. i just really really like it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Krelm Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 I also read that interview with Yaniv and thought it was spot on with so many points. I agree that organizers should book DJs that play music they have purchased. DJs are the biggest buyers of music, and when they stop buying, that is going to hurt the labels more than anything else. But how do you figure out who is buying and who is copying? For example, much music I like to play (mainly breaks & prog-house stuff) is only released on vinyl, but I currently DJ exclusively from CDs - I couldn't afford to bring my heavy turntables when I moved overseas, and only brought my smaller & lighter CDJs. I buy a lot of vinyl then use a non-DJ turntable and my computer to burn it to CD. So, I am not playing *original* CDs (since the music was never released on CD), but it is music I have purchased. But I guess I am a special case with that. Maybe DJs should be forced to bring receipts to their gigs? ;-) I do think that anybody that is caught playing largely mp3s at gigs should be kicked off the decks...or at least not asked to play again. It is disrespectful to the artists (who they are pirating from) and moreso to the dancefloor (who is hearing lesser-quality sounds). The sound quality of mp3s on a big system sucks. Period. I think that also the numbers of labels and releases has grown too much in relation to the number of buyers. In this case, every new label takes some sales away from the current labels. Too many people make labels to release their own music or their friends' music, but have nothing new to offer. This hurts everybody....there are more CDs to buy, but not proportionally more people to buy them. I prefer fewer labels that are doing better (and releasing faster) than many labels that are barely struggling by. I normally would not complain, but when it means that labels I really like (like MPDQX) have to cancel releases like the Son Kite live, and have to scale back experiments (like VSUAL Breaks) and also have to slow down their release schedule (Dragonfly), it pisses me off. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Setsuko Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 interesting points ... anyway , I think it's up to us selecting the latest releases and buying the goodies we like that are realy worth the money ... another factor that is important is the presentation , a nice coverdesign gives the cd an extra touch . the new upcoming labels can not afford professional graphics so they come up with silly resolution fractal art . some labels choose for nice graphics (like Manta records), some don't care (to many) .. the cover of the new Ticon - Aero is just awesome ... very fresh but on the other side MPDQX is coming up with one of the worst covers ever seen ... the Bigwigs cover makes me puke , yeah ... even if the music is 'ok' I won't buy such a ridiculous artwork ... that's my priority ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nanashino gonbe Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Ah, but what about TraktorDJ DJs? All their music is in mp3 format, but there's no way to tell if it's purchased or copied. And any proper TraktorDJ DJ will be burning MP3s at incredibly high bit rates, eliminating the sound differece. (No arguments about MP3s sounding different from CDs, because I'm talking about >300 kbps, not your standard pirated 128 kbps MP3s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Krelm Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 What is a TraktorDJ DJ? Is this some program for DJing with the computer? Yeah, it is definitely hard to tell who uses original music and who uses copied music in all cases. I guess that a 256 or 320kbps mp3 is good in sound quality, but those are rarely shared so I think that is OK since it also eliminates the pirating aspect of it. If these people are using super high quality mp3s of tracks they have purchased, then I see nothing wrong with that. It is more the DJs that download and play out the 128 or 192 kbps mp3s without ever buying that should be pummeled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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