bwhale Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 It seems like most of this stuff has no structure. It is just floaty peaceful sounds, where the sounds don't build up to anything, there is not good rhythm or melodies. Sounds tend to just wander in and out of the music constantly and it goes nowhere and my mind wanders and I don't actually hear any of the music because it doesn't hold the attention at all. There is way too much emphasis put onto the minor details and the foreground of the track sucks balls. So... is there anything that is actually similar to psychedelic trance, which this stuff *supposedly* grew out of?! I consider most of the "goambient" tracks on the oldschool goa trance CDs to be great chillout music. Yes: Chi-AD (chillout tracks obviously) Chronos DLS Shakatura Somewhat: Ott (half the tracks maybe) Terra Nine The Kumba Mela Experiment No: Aes Dana Asura Bluetech Carbon Based Lifeforms (exluding MOS # basically, maybe a few others) Cell Celtic Cross Deep Dive Corp Ekko Ishq Polyploid Younger Brother (excluding Evil & Harm basically) Ethnic crap: Entheogenic Shpongle (most of it) Don't know? Kaya Project Mystical Sun Solar Fields Wombatmusic ... I've sure there's a lot I don't know of, so maybe add your own lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Hippie Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Don't know? Kaya Project Mystical Sun Solar Fields Wombatmusic You will hate Solar Fields with a vengeance. Have you tried early Eat Static stuff? It's not chillout as such but they have produced some fantastic slower tracks on albums like 'implant'. If not then perhaps some dub inspired albums? They often have a lot more kick than much chillout (though they're not really anything like the goa-ambiant obviously). Try Killowatts 'Ground State' and Nagual Sound Experiment's 'Invisible Movements' maybe? Oh, and Opus Iridium (second disk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa-Head Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Oh, and Opus Iridium (second disk) He doesn't like Suntrip EDIT: MY 604th POST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insejn Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 KRUSSELDORF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoNaughty Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Each to their own tastes if you don't like the psy chill you've heard chances are you won't have much time for other stuff people sugest, you either like music or you don't. for me chilled sounds (I hate the term chill out) are the real psychedelic music the warmth of the sounds and the rythmic ebb and flow, speak more to my body when I'm on acid than doof doof doof ever could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytimeofmylife Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Maybe check out Va - Peace Therapy. It does have these slow goa-ish sounds, but then again it also wander away sometimes.. Then, maybe Essential Trip. Easily Embarrassed have this lovely slow synths but I don't know if it's considered as psy chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redington Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Yes: Chi-AD (chillout tracks obviously) Chronos DLS Shakatura Somewhat: Ott (half the tracks maybe) Terra Nine The Kumba Mela Experiment No: Aes Dana Asura Bluetech Carbon Based Lifeforms (excluding MOS # basically, maybe a few others) Cell Celtic Cross Deep Dive Corp Ekko Ishq Polyploid Younger Brother (excluding Evil & Harm basically) [not really chillout] Ethnic crap: Entheogenic Shpongle (most of it) [except for like the first album, Shpongle's not exactly chillout] Don't know? Kaya Project Mystical Sun Solar Fields Wombatmusic [haven't heard this guy] Well jeez. If you say no to those then I wouldn't know how you expect to find more "chillout" music without going into other genre/sub genres. More into dub you may want to check out: Phutureprimitive - Sub Conscious Children of the Bong - Sirius Sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 It doesn't sound like you really like too much chillout music. Or at least you are after a very specific style. Either way you are going to struggle finiding what you like. try these tracks 1. Ra - Light Receiver 2. Intermix - Solar Temple 3. Astral Projection - Ambient Galaxy (Disco Valley Mix) 4. Cosmosis - Roswell 5. Goasia - Pray For Rain 6. Man With No Name - Azymuth 7. Filteria - Cloud Kingdom (Solar Fields Mix) 8. Aes Dana - Lysteria 9. Ra - Gates of Tiperath 10. Dimension 5 - Flow 11. Astral Projection - Still Dreaming (Anything Can Happen) 12. Jikkenteki - Ambiguity 13. Khetzal - Avasari 14. Mystery Of The Yeti - A Welcome To All Extra Terrestrials 15. The Infinity Project - The Answer 16. Hallucinogen - The Herb Garden all of which I think have a goambient feel with maybe the last few tracks being a bit to soft for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhale Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Actually I made a mistake... I think Aes Dana is good but I didn't like the Aftermath album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhale Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Shakatura... I hope Ra makes a chillout or ambient album, I have faith in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draeke Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 i think bwhale likes ambient with a deep goa touch, eastern melodies and alien alike stuff, cause chronos is exactly like that. and same goes for the few chi-ad chill tracks. You may want to try: taruna first album is the only one that rings a bell as being similar and ibizarre - alchemea cd (if u can find it, not exactly so common) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhale Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 I'll check Taruna thanks. Eastern sounds don't really matter but are a bonus when used well. The main thing I hate is when the music sounds totally different every 2 minute interval through the track/cd, the previous sounds are never reused, no "track" is really built, just some changing sounds. :wank: I'm listening to Mystical Sun right now, it's pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isao Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I have the same feelings concerning the so called "psybient" than the OP. I've tried hard to see what there was to this music (most Ultimae stuff, Younger Brother, etc) and i just don't get it. The melodies, when there are some, are sounding very boring to me, and i don't understand where the music is going.. if its going anywhere that is. Of course i love some tracks here and there, like "Confusion Illusion" remixed by Solar Fields himself (Opus Iridium CD2), "MOS 6581" and "Photosynthesis" by CBL, "White Pixel" by Synch24, "Billy The Kid Strikes Back" by Ott, and some others; but 95% of what is said to be amazing psybient sounds just dull and empty to me, and i never understood why it was called psybient/goabient and not just ambient, since it has nothing to do with the psy/goa music (again, it's all IMO). I also agree on the chill out tracks at the end of a few goa albums, they're often amazing and are about the only tracks i could qualify as both psychedelic and chill out. A few of those tracks that are perfectly fitting those terms imo..: "Trippy Future Garden" - Planet B.E.N. "Source Of Emotion" - Paradise Connection "Intellectual" - Gamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longloststar Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Seems like a classic case of people not giving good music a chance. I mean, not liking stuff like Bluetech/Celtic Cross/Ishq, come on, thats just crazy! Even subjectivity has a point of absurdity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isao Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Seems like a classic case of people not giving good music a chance. I mean, not liking stuff like Bluetech/Celtic Cross/Ishq, come on, thats just crazy! Even subjectivity has a point of absurdity. Well there is a difference between finding a music good, and enjoying this music. I agree that the artists you mentionned above are making great music and probably are very skilled musicians, but that alone won't necessarly makes me like it. So yeah i don't find it bad, as i said i've no problems saying it's very well made music, but it doesn't touch me in any way... just tastes really, as always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholyman Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Seems like a classic case of people not giving good music a chance. I mean, not liking stuff like Bluetech/Celtic Cross/Ishq, come on, thats just crazy! Even subjectivity has a point of absurdity. Word Well there is a difference between finding a music good, and enjoying this music. I agree that the artists you mentionned above are making great music and probably are very skilled musicians, but that alone won't necessarly makes me like it. So yeah i don't find it bad, as i said i've no problems saying it's very well made music, but it doesn't touch me in any way... just tastes really, as always Well, sure, but in this case it "sucked balls" also emphasising on minor details. Because it's relative, a person with another perception might find "minor details" to be vast landscapes forming before his eyes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isao Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Well, sure, but in this case it "sucked balls" also emphasising on minor details. Because it's relative, a person with another perception might find "minor details" to be vast landscapes forming before his eyes.... I agree, those weren't my words btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholyman Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I agree, those weren't my words btw. I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travbrad1001 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Satumnaisuus I know I plug this all the time, but it's some of the best "chillout" I've ever heard. It's a lot "louder" and more intense than most chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhale Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Any music can be considered good or bad from some perspective. I laid down some principles -- which apply to almost all goa trance -- and from these principles most of this chillout music is not good. And this really has nothing to do with a beat or eastern melodies. There's a lot of ambient music that fits the same principles. This isn't a case of not listening... I listened to many of these CDs several times each. But every time I go back to listen to classic goa where all the sounds work together and there's a progression and story in the track, I realize how crappy this other music has been that just floats around changing sounds and does nothing in the end. Of course this is not black and white at all, I'm just generalizing and then asking if there's any other chillout projects like the ones I mentioned, that follow these principles as the old music did and as the "goambient" tracks did. And it's nice to see someone else that sees this problem I'm talking about. I think much of this music should be called psyboring or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhale Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 This is really excellent. I could use more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redington Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 This is really excellent. I could use more like it. You say you love stuff like that but say Shpongle or Entheogenic or others in the first post are junk. I just don't know how someone can make those kinds of statements other than being really nit-picky about what kind of music they listen to. As for the link, I can't think of anything off the top of my head that is similar that you would like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhale Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 I like those tracks on the video because the sounds work together perfectly, not because of the particular sounds used. HOW, not WHAT. I actually haven't listened to Entheogenic for awhile I can't even remember it really (which doesn't say much for it) but I will listen again and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redington Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Well, don't bother listening to Golden Cap and probably Flight of the Urubus. Spontaneous Illumination is the best Entheogenic album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryll Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Ethnic crap: Entheogenic Shpongle (most of it) shpongle is polymer foam with a flavour that reaks of ethnoidicism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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